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#31 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:11 AM

Don't let Daniel touch you! You'll catch GRID!

Don't you know, gay role = gay actor = every role must be gay? It's science.

#32 dunmall

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:20 AM

exactly just look at rock hudson :)

#33 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:50 AM

Or Raymond Burr.

#34 SecretAgentFan

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:56 AM



Yes he was.. but what the hell does that have to do with the role of James Bond??!! :)

The article says the next bond film he going to kiss Felix and I believe it because he already doing it in another film.

I swear to God, before the Internet the village idiot stayed in their town.


:P :P

#35 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 08:01 AM

It's actually kind of comforting, in a way. I like to think that people aren't getting stupider, it's just that they're a lot louder now.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 09:29 AM

I prefer the notion they're getting stupider :)

Honestly, it is just tabloid trash that made its way onto a blog site. To take almost anything that appears on the internet as true these days is ignorant.

As for Craig ruining the franchise, Brosnan beat him to it. Fortunately the pheonix rises from the ashes.

#37 stromberg

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 10:31 AM

Can't believe that people are still falling for this guy's mantra repeating wind-up technique.

He only does this "delenda Carthago" because he knows everyone jumps on it immediately.
And then sits in front of his computer and laughs his **** off, because he once again managed to upset half the board and spoil their fun.

Might be DB, or the Moo, or anyone else of our known trolls, or someone else who has no clue about Bond at all (which is quite obvious), and only loves to make trouble. Just ignore him, for Pete's sake.

#38 Santa

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 10:53 AM

He doesn't wind me up, if anything I find him amusing as well as unpleasant. Problem is, I think he's serious, not some wind-up merchant. There are plenty of idiots like him around. I'm related to some of them :) .

#39 Sunny_on_SM

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:04 PM

I think the article is rubbish. I just read the same thing from www.slashmovies.com (I belive that was the name of it??). At least they had the decency to say that there is no validity to the rumour.
On the one hand, it is hard for me to believe the Bond franchise would do something like this. But then again, would you really be all THAT surprised if they do?

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:16 PM

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#41 hcmv007

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:44 PM

if james bond turned into a puff i would burn my video/dvd collection and send the bill to broccolis



Ditto

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 02:49 PM

I don’t know about Bond and Leiter kissing, but there is that part of the film where another guy is

Spoiler


:P There went my hopes and high opinion of Bond producers/writers. :)



if james bond turned into a puff i would burn my video/dvd collection and send the bill to broccolis



Ditto


I wouldn't. That's not Sean Connery's or Roger Moore's fault, or any other actor in the role prior to Craig. I would just erase everything Bond past Pierce from my memory and stop paying attention to anything new that comes out with 007 name on it.

#43 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 04:37 PM

But then again, would you really be all THAT surprised if they do?


Oh, come off it. To change Bond's sexual orientation would be marketing suicide. They're not going to do it.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 05:06 PM

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#45 Sunny_on_SM

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:09 PM



I don’t know about Bond and Leiter kissing, but there is that part of the film where another guy is

Spoiler


:P There went my hopes and high opinion of Bond producers/writers. :)


Never read the Casino Royale novel have you.


No, I haven't. I am sure I'm not the only one who's not familiar with all Bond novels. :)


But then again, would you really be all THAT surprised if they do?


Oh, come off it. To change Bond's sexual orientation would be marketing suicide. They're not going to do it.


I completely agree. This will be suicide in the eyes of any straight Bond fan. But considering the way movie making is going these days, nothing will shock me anymore. :P

#46 DamnCoffee

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:27 PM

agreed :) Bond would never turn gay :P

#47 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:45 PM

No, I haven't. I am sure I'm not the only one who's not familiar with all Bond novels.


No, but most people are at least aware of the infamous torture scene.

I completely agree. This will be suicide in the eyes of any straight Bond fan. But considering the way movie making is going these days, nothing will shock me anymore.


You're not getting it, are you? Bond is not gay, he never will be gay, and no-one will ever represent him as gay (except on fanfiction.net, of course). Regardless of your apocalyptic view of filmmaking, Hollywood will always go where the money is. There's no money in making Bond gay, or American, or black, or a woman, or a superintelligent duck. The franchise is a cash cow, and the producers - minor "reboot" notwithstanding - are not going to fix what ain't broke.

"Any straight Bond fan?" Are you implying that gay Bond fans want to see him turn gay? As far as I've ever known by them, Bond fans who happen to be gay like our man just as he is...it's mostly the lonely Brosnan fangirls who want to see him happily settled with Alec.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:52 PM

...it's mostly the lonely Brosnan fangirls who want to see him happily settled with Alec.


:)

Trevelyan or McCowen?


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Posted 06 September 2006 - 06:58 PM

No, I haven't. I am sure I'm not the only one who's not familiar with all Bond novels.


No, but most people are at least aware of the infamous torture scene.

I completely agree. This will be suicide in the eyes of any straight Bond fan. But considering the way movie making is going these days, nothing will shock me anymore.


You're not getting it, are you? Bond is not gay, he never will be gay, and no-one will ever represent him as gay (except on fanfiction.net, of course). Regardless of your apocalyptic view of filmmaking, Hollywood will always go where the money is. There's no money in making Bond gay, or American, or black, or a woman, or a superintelligent duck. The franchise is a cash cow, and the producers - minor "reboot" notwithstanding - are not going to fix what ain't broke.

"Any straight Bond fan?" Are you implying that gay Bond fans want to see him turn gay? As far as I've ever known by them, Bond fans who happen to be gay like our man just as he is...it's mostly the lonely Brosnan fangirls who want to see him happily settled with Alec.


I don't know what your problem is and why you are barking at me :) , but we obviously don't see eye to eye, which is just fine by me as long as we can respect each other's views without going ballistic. I am indeed disappointed with Hollywood of today (again, my view!), and though they may know where "the money is", they have also been known to do stupid things and ruin good shows and classic movies with lousy remakes. I am not saying that they will do the same with Bond. I am only saying that if they did, this won't be the first time, hypothetically speaking.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:14 PM

Bond - a superintelligent duck.


That's next week's rumor.

#51 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:19 PM

I don't know what your problem is and why you are barking at me mad.gif , but we obviously don't see eye to eye, which is just fine by me as long as we can respect each other's views without going ballistic.


1) I am not barking at you.

2) I don't respect your view, I think it's rubbish. However, you're welcome to hold to it if it brings you satisfaction.

3) I am not going ballistic.

4) Don't really care how you feel about the percieved direction that filmmaking is going - what you're implying is that Hollywood's made a habit of turning straight iconic characters gay. Name one.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:25 PM

4) Don't really care how you feel about the percieved direction that filmmaking is going - what you're implying is that Hollywood's made a habit of turning straight iconic characters gay. Name one.


That is not what I implied! But I don't see any point in continuing this debate with you.

#53 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:32 PM

That is not what I implied!


Really?

OK then.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:43 PM

That is not what I implied!


Really?

OK then.


Look, Tortilla Factory. For the last time I am going to say something here. I re-read every single post I have made on this thread. Perhaps, my English is not so good or something, since I am not a native speaker, and someone might read something into another person's words. But nowhere did I say that "Hollywood has a habit of turning straight people to gay"!!! All I said was that Hollywood has been known to ruin classic TV and movies with lousy remakes, and that in my opinion, these days a lot of times they have an attitude of "anything goes".

Don't agree with me - fine! I don't care. Whatever. Don't like it - kindly pass me by.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:46 PM

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#56 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:47 PM

This has nothing to do with your English. You repeatedly express concern that Hollywood is going to turn Bond gay. From that I extrapolate that you must have experienced something like that, to make you believe it would happen in spite of all evidence to the contrary. Do you have a specific example of this kind of thing happening? I suspect not, but I could be wrong.

Your feelings about the direction of filmmaking don't change the facts.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 07:58 PM

This has nothing to do with your English. You repeatedly express concern that Hollywood is going to turn Bond gay. From that I extrapolate that you must have experienced something like that, to make you believe it would happen in spite of all evidence to the contrary. Do you have a specific example of this kind of thing happening? I suspect not, but I could be wrong.


I "repeatedly express concern that Hollywood is going to turn Bond gay"... Hmm... Wow! I have no idea how you came up with that, but FYI, I have a favourite Bond actor already and stopped caring about what they do to the character a long time ago. My participation in this topic is only due to something I read on the news and keeping up with what's going on out of sheer curiosity. But Geez, thanks for your analysis of my "concerns", I had no idea I had them. :)

#58 TortillaFactory

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 08:03 PM

There went my hopes and high opinion of Bond producers/writers.


This will be suicide in the eyes of any straight Bond fan.


As they say, the quotes don't lie. You sound pretty convinced that Bond turning gay is a viable option. I was just trying to point out that it's not, but you don't seem to be understanding why.

I have a favourite Bond actor already and stopped caring about what they do to the character a long time ago.


Really? I wouldn't have guessed.

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 08:09 PM

And the answer is ...Bond is not, and never will be, gay.

But what about Felix? Maybe he has a slight crush on our man? :)

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Posted 06 September 2006 - 08:11 PM

There went my hopes and high opinion of Bond producers/writers.


This will be suicide in the eyes of any straight Bond fan.


As they say, the quotes don't lie. You sound pretty convinced that Bond turning gay is a viable option. I was just trying to point out that it's not, but you don't seem to be understanding why.

I have a favourite Bond actor already and stopped caring about what they do to the character a long time ago.


Really? I wouldn't have guessed.


Whatever you say! :) I'm done arguing with you, obviously it is going nowhere and it's taken too much of my time already. Have your last word if you wish. :P