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#1 zencat

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:01 PM

Maybe this is old news, but there is a Bond 22 plot synopsis now on iMDb:

Continuing on from the events of Casino Royale, Bond is once again on the track of the Lords Resistance Army.


We've all learned not to trust what appears on iMDb this early (I remember a few whacky CR plot summaries), but "Lords Resistance Army"? Is this the first time we've heard this name in connection with Bond 22?

#2 JCRendle

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:04 PM

Yep - But I believe they are going on hearsay

Edited by JCRendle, 09 August 2006 - 06:05 PM.


#3 zencat

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:05 PM

Probably.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:07 PM

They appear briefly in Casino Royale I think. Even if one doesnt have the script it's mentinoned somewhere isnt it?

That description is real vague though, anyone who knows the name and the simple fact that Bond 22 is a continuation of sorts could come up with that description.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:12 PM

They are told "Lords Resistance Army" and "Mr. White" and hear "SPECTRE" and "Blofeld"., very different.

#6 zencat

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:13 PM

I just wonder if the Lord Resistance Army is our new SPECTRE? Remember this CBn story?

Hmmm...LRA...IRA. Cute.

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:16 PM

They appear briefly in Casino Royale I think. Even if one doesnt have the script it's mentinoned somewhere isnt it?

That description is real vague though, anyone who knows the name and the simple fact that Bond 22 is a continuation of sorts could come up with that description.


Erm, no, I don't think it has been mentioned anywhere. Maybe in the spoiler forums, but I've been avoiding these in the last few weeks - as I'm one of the chosen few who haven't read the script and I want to have at least a few surprises left, come November (even though I had a bad experiences, the last time with that infamous glacier surfing scene :) )

#8 zencat

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:20 PM

Whoops. Maybe we should move this to the spoiler forum then. Sorry. :)

(Maybe we need to make a Bond 22 spoiler forum?)

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:25 PM

Whoops. Maybe we should move this to the spoiler forum then. Sorry. :P


I did debate responding to this thread for that reason. Thought since the LRA was already mentioned I didnt mind. I don't think knowing a name of an orginization is a spoiler per se, plust I don't think this thread has entered that territory yet. But then again, I'm not a moderator so they might think differently :)

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:39 PM

.... I don't think knowing a name of an orginization is a spoiler per se, ....


Neither do I (personally). Everyone should know by now that there is a terrorist organisation involved, and they've got to have some kind of name. Knowing the name SPECTRE doesn't spoil anyting about DN, FRWL or any other of the early movies (or "Stromberg Line" in TSWLM :) ), it should be likewise with the LRA.

It's not like we're like half a year ago, when even the knowledge of the game being changed to Poker was considered a spoiler...

But if any other mod feels like moving this, please do so (but don't forget to change thet thread title) :P

#11 K1Bond007

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:45 PM

Maybe this is old news, but there is a Bond 22 plot synopsis now on iMDb:


It's BS. IMDb doesn't know [censored] about future movies. Pay no attention to them, seriously.

I just wonder if the Lord Resistance Army is our new SPECTRE? Remember this CBn story?

Hmmm...LRA...IRA. Cute.


I highly doubt they'd pick a real paramilitary group as the "new SPECTRE."

See: http://en.wikipedia....Resistance_Army

#12 zencat

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:48 PM

Oh! I had no idea this was a real group. :)

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:52 PM

Oh! I had no idea this was a real group. :)


Niether did I. To be honest.

#14 K1Bond007

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Posted 09 August 2006 - 06:55 PM


Oh! I had no idea this was a real group. :)


Niether did I. To be honest.


You guys need to watch more news. This conflict/war they have going on over there in Uganda has been going on for years.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 06:39 PM

I just wonder if the Lord Resistance Army is our new SPECTRE? Remember this CBn story?

Hmmm...LRA...IRA. Cute.


I don't think so. I think that Obanno and the LRA are simply a smaller group supported by the people White represents. I'm guessing maybe a new SPECTRE organization would support fringe groups whose goals coincide with theirs.

Spoiler


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Posted 12 August 2006 - 06:50 PM


I just wonder if the Lord Resistance Army is our new SPECTRE? Remember this CBn story?

Hmmm...LRA...IRA. Cute.


I don't think so. I think that Obanno and the LRA are simply a smaller group supported by the people White represents. I'm guessing maybe a new SPECTRE organization would support fringe groups whose goals coincide with theirs.

Spoiler

Yes, I think you are right. The LRA are pawns. There are larger forces at work in CR behind the scenes. I expect we will meet them when Bond does.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:52 AM

Maybe this is old news, but there is a Bond 22 plot synopsis now on iMDb:

Continuing on from the events of Casino Royale, Bond is once again on the track of the Lords Resistance Army.


We've all learned not to trust what appears on iMDb this early (I remember a few whacky CR plot summaries), but "Lords Resistance Army"? Is this the first time we've heard this name in connection with Bond 22?


Does this mean that bond22 is going to be another bloody prequel!!!!

i hope not


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#18 JimmyBond

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 02:36 AM

A prequel to what? If you're suggesting that Casino Royale is a prequel you're mistaken. Bond 22 will simply be a continuation of some storylines started in CR.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 03:02 AM

Continuing on from the events of Casino Royale, Bond is once again on the track of the Lords Resistance Army.


That is an edited version of the plot summery I sent in a while back - even kept my name on it - anyway, what I sent was -

Continuing on from the events of Casino Royale, James Bond must find who the mysterious Mr. White was really working for



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Posted 14 August 2006 - 04:05 AM

Does this mean that bond22 is going to be another bloody prequel!!!!



Not sure what you mean Iceheart....The movie Casino Royale is a restart so the previous 20 EON movies do not exist in the same universe as Daniel Craig's James Bond.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:34 AM


Does this mean that bond22 is going to be another bloody prequel!!!!



Not sure what you mean Iceheart....The movie Casino Royale is a restart so the previous 20 EON movies do not exist in the same universe as Daniel Craig's James Bond.



That's only in your head. They exist for most of the rest of us.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:02 AM

sorr
i don't quite get it

Think of the life of james Bond
yes??
good
now think of the life that has been displayed in the movies(Dr. No - Die Another day)
good
now think of before 007 held his license to kill
right??
this would be beore the Films that we know of because he has had his License to kill in all of them
before the films we know of = a prequel
right??
i find it really weird that i am hearing things like "text" messages - indicating that the film is post-2000

can somebody please explain to me whats going on because i obviously dont get it
id hate not to enjoy watching CR because i dont understand it

thanks

Iceheart

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:19 AM

sorr
i don't quite get it

Think of the life of james Bond
yes??
good
now think of the life that has been displayed in the movies(Dr. No - Die Another day)
good
now think of before 007 held his license to kill
right??
this would be beore the Films that we know of because he has had his License to kill in all of them
before the films we know of = a prequel
right??
i find it really weird that i am hearing things like "text" messages - indicating that the film is post-2000

can somebody please explain to me whats going on because i obviously dont get it
id hate not to enjoy watching CR because i dont understand it

thanks

Iceheart


It will only be a prequel if it is evidently intended to be followed by the existing films (e.g. Red Dragon which, albeit made ten years later, evidently ends with a "lead in" to The Silence of the Lambs). As far as I can be bothered to understand it this is the start of a new series of James Bond films - Series 2. Whilst I'm aware that there are some hangovers from the first series - the Aston, the Dench M (even if it is simply a character played by Judi Dench who is not the same M as in the final four films of Series 1) etc (and the wisdom of keeping them remains to be seen) - if it was really intended as a prequel it wouldn't, as you observe, be set in the present day.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 08:27 AM

sorr
i don't quite get it

Think of the life of james Bond
yes??
good
now think of the life that has been displayed in the movies(Dr. No - Die Another day)
good
now think of before 007 held his license to kill
right??
this would be beore the Films that we know of because he has had his License to kill in all of them
before the films we know of = a prequel
right??
i find it really weird that i am hearing things like "text" messages - indicating that the film is post-2000

can somebody please explain to me whats going on because i obviously dont get it
id hate not to enjoy watching CR because i dont understand it

thanks

Iceheart



It's a loose prequel or actually more of a reboot. This is not a period film. It's set in the here and now and does not take place before Dr No in 1962. If the past 20 films were the story of Bond's life then Casino Royale is restarting the story from the very beginning only updated to take place in present time. Even if we don't and we probably won't see this new Bond taking on the likes of Dr No, Goldfinger, SPECTRE, Scaramanga etc and marry Tracy, just assume that he will seeing as this is the story of the same character only told in a different time frame. Either way in a few films it will seem like business as usual and you won't be able to tell the difference had they not so overtly rebooted the franchise. That's how I look at it.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:45 PM

As far as I can be bothered to understand it this is the start of a new series of James Bond films - Series 2.


Right, it's a restart, as has been explained by EON.

In terms of Casino Royale the previous 20 movies do not exist.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:48 PM


As far as I can be bothered to understand it this is the start of a new series of James Bond films - Series 2.


Right, it's a restart, as has been explained by EON.

In terms of Casino Royale the previous 20 movies do not exist.



So why are they calling them Bond 21 and Bond 22? Surely if that were the case it would be something more like Bond 2.1 or 2.2?

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:57 PM


.... I don't think knowing a name of an orginization is a spoiler per se, ....


Neither do I (personally). Everyone should know by now that there is a terrorist organisation involved, and they've got to have some kind of name. Knowing the name SPECTRE doesn't spoil anyting about DN, FRWL or any other of the early movies (or "Stromberg Line" in TSWLM :) ), it should be likewise with the LRA.

It's not like we're like half a year ago, when even the knowledge of the game being changed to Poker was considered a spoiler...

But if any other mod feels like moving this, please do so (but don't forget to change thet thread title) :P


WHAT!!! THE BIG GAME IS POKER!!!! awww Now I know too much :P

#28 jaguar007

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 06:38 PM

We just have to use the same suspension of disbelief as we do with all the BOnd films. Even Brosnan's Bond would have been to young to be a 00 agent battling Dr. No in 1962, or being married in 1969.



sorr
i don't quite get it

Think of the life of james Bond
yes??
good
now think of the life that has been displayed in the movies(Dr. No - Die Another day)
good
now think of before 007 held his license to kill
right??
this would be beore the Films that we know of because he has had his License to kill in all of them
before the films we know of = a prequel
right??
i find it really weird that i am hearing things like "text" messages - indicating that the film is post-2000

can somebody please explain to me whats going on because i obviously dont get it
id hate not to enjoy watching CR because i dont understand it

thanks

Iceheart



It's a loose prequel or actually more of a reboot. This is not a period film. It's set in the here and now and does not take place before Dr No in 1962. If the past 20 films were the story of Bond's life then Casino Royale is restarting the story from the very beginning only updated to take place in present time. Even if we don't and we probably won't see this new Bond taking on the likes of Dr No, Goldfinger, SPECTRE, Scaramanga etc and marry Tracy, just assume that he will seeing as this is the story of the same character only told in a different time frame. Either way in a few films it will seem like business as usual and you won't be able to tell the difference had they not so overtly rebooted the franchise. That's how I look at it.



#29 JCRendle

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 11:33 PM


As far as I can be bothered to understand it this is the start of a new series of James Bond films - Series 2.


Right, it's a restart, as has been explained by EON.

In terms of Casino Royale the previous 20 movies do not exist.



So why are they calling them Bond 21 and Bond 22? Surely if that were the case it would be something more like Bond 2.1 or 2.2?


Because it's the 21st Official Bond film.

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Posted 15 August 2006 - 12:43 AM

I doubt that the Lord's Resistance Army will feature in BOND 22 for the reason that...
Spoiler

Just another case of IMDB anticipating the future plotlines through nothing more than guesswork.