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[JCRendle]

The title of Bond 22 is Coded Lies
http://www.kelboa.ci...81397/53437.htm

After the statement by EON revealing that Bond 22 would be released in May 2008, the title for the film has been revealed. Bond 22 has been issued with the working title Coded Lies. In a rare interview Michael G Wilson said "we were going to use the title Risico from a Fleming short story. We later discovered that in Japan Risico means "rice". The title Coded Lies may reveal clues about the plot of Bond 22. M is reportedly assasinated in Coded Lies and as a result 007 goes off on a vendetta to avenge her killers. This plotline will also interwine with 007 once again meeting the mysterious Mr.White. This news certainly seems plausible. After all whilst Dame Judi Dench is considered by many Bond fans as the best M some have said she has become too old for the part.

[JCRendle]

I'd say "Coded Lies" kinda sums up the validity of the article

[Loomis]

In a rare interview Michael G Wilson said "we were going to use the title Risico from a Fleming short story. We later discovered that in Japan Risico means "rice".

I've studied Japanese for some years and lived in Japan, and while I'm far from 100% fluent I've never heard of "risico" or anything sounding remotely like it meaning "rice" in Japanese.

Also, I really doubt that they'd use a title so reminiscent of TRUE LIES.

[Johnboy007]

Doesn't it mean "risk" in Italian? Isn't that where Fleming got the title?

But yeah, "Coded Lies" isn't very Bondian. Don't like the prospect of another vendetta story line either. Bunch of rubbish.

[Dunph]

And if it did mean "rice" in Japanese, they'd do what they've always done: call it something else in Japan. What a pile of cack. Where's the article from, JCRendle?

[RedKelly]

O very LTK my favorite movie. I can't beleive were already excited about "coded Lies" we haven't seen CR yet

[doublenoughtspy]

It's from a Geocities/Myspace type of web community called Citymax.

So in other words entirely made up.

[jaguar007]

And if it did mean "rice" in Japanese, they'd do what they've always done: call it something else in Japan. What a pile of cack. Where's the article from, JCRendle?

The URL is in the topic

http://www.kelboa.ci...81397/53437.htm

I went to the site and is is obviously a fan site.

[Harmsway]

This is pure, unadulterated B.S.

The reported storyline has me actually not believing it one bit, because it doesn't really match up with the script for CASINO ROYALE all that well and sounds like a bit of fan suggestion.

Furthermore, the "Risico means rice in Japan" excuse also doesn't wash, seeing as foreign releases of Bond films are generally given entirely different titles anyhow. And from what I understand, risico *doesn't* mean rice in Japan, either.

[Johnboy007]

They seemed to live with "We Don't Want a Doctor" for Dr. No. Surely they could have accepted "Rice".

[Kingdom Come]

Haven't we already had M kidnapped? But if it is true that Bond 22 is based on a Wilson idea then the same story that we have had before I can understand!

[The Dove]

I've said this before and I'll say it again..as Kerim Bey says " This is an old friend of mine, *taps nose* and it tells me something smells!! "

Utter B.S. is what I think..

[Matt_13]

Coded Lies...no... The title is either going to be Risico or The Property of a Lady. Coded Lies, pft!

[Mr Malcolm]

As a title, it's a bad enough that I wouldn't believe it anyway. And haven't vendetta storylines been done to death for now?

[killkenny kid]

Coded Bullspit.

[K1Bond007]

I'd say "Coded Lies" kinda sums up the validity of the article

^^^^

This website spams like you wouldn't believe. It's pure trash. Wilson won't even tell us the exact budget or who is singing the theme song to CR, I mean who would believe he would give away the entire plot to Bond 22 as well as the title in an interview prior to Casino Royale being released.

Blows my mind that anyone would think this up.

[Loomis]

And haven't vendetta storylines been done to death for now?

Eon doesn't seem to think so. Sadly, this is the one part of this rubbish report I find believable. We've had nothing but personal missions for Bond to a greater or lesser extent for almost 20 years. An exciting and welcome tagline for a future 007 flick would be "This time it's NOT personal"!

[JimmyBond]

I know it's getting tired having vendetta storylines, but having M assassinated is something interesting, and certainly never done before.

And you never know, just because he goes off to avenge her doesnt mean he has to do it with angst and sorrow. Perhaps he feels he has to do it because of the simple fact that she's his boss.

[iexpectu2die]

This same website suggests that this is official:
http://www.kelboa.ci...666/1063272.htm

How inconvinient that they 'seem to have taken it off at the moment'!

If you ask me, its all rather a load of ****

Edited by iexpectu2die, 24 July 2006 - 08:37 PM.

[Harmsway]

And haven't vendetta storylines been done to death for now?

Eon doesn't seem to think so. Sadly, this is the one part of this rubbish report I find believable. We've had nothing but personal missions for Bond to a greater or lesser extent for almost 20 years. An exciting and welcome tagline for a future 007 flick would be "This time it's NOT personal"!

Considering CASINO ROYALE does end with something of a sequel ending, I think we will be seeing the vendetta side of things in BOND 22. :::shrugs:::

[JimmyBond]

I don't mind a revenge flick if it's done well. DAD wasnt done well, they pretty much dropped that aspect of it after Bond gets back to Iceland.

Fortanetly Casino Royale doesnt get to personal, so we'll at least get a breather between "this time it's personal" style flicks. If in fact, Bond 22 has that aspect to it.

[Loomis]

Sorry, but a "Bond avenging M" flick just sounds like the most tired, boring and cliched move they could possibly make. It might work had they not done LICENCE TO KILL, and were it believable that Bond had any kind of personal loyalty to Dench's M, who in four films to date has done nothing but slag him off to his face (while proving spectacularly incompetent in her work).

Sadly, though, I can well believe that this is Michael G. Wilson's rumoured brilliant idea for the next film.

[JimmyBond]

Yeah, but don't we hate Dench? Ok, so I dont hate her, I'm really ready for a change. And if this is the way to do it, why not? Btw, I don't think Bond needs to show any loyalty to her to want to avenge her, he just has to feel it's the right thing to do, and I can definately see James Bond coming to that conclusion.

[Loomis]

I don't think Bond needs to show any loyalty to her to want to avenge her, he just has to feel it's the right thing to do

Well, true. But I'd much prefer it if they made Dench's M a surprise villain and Bond had to take her out. Would finally explain her baffling bitchiness, for one thing.

[JimmyBond]

Technically the M in Casino Royale isnt even the same M. Despite being played by Dench. She seems a lot more well written in this film than the others.

[Qwerty]

How inconvinient that they 'seem to have taken it off at the moment'!

There ya go then. Pretty bad title.

[crheath]

This is pure, unadulterated B.S.

The reported storyline has me actually not believing it one bit, because it doesn't really match up with the script for CASINO ROYALE all that well and sounds like a bit of fan suggestion.

Furthermore, the "Risico means rice in Japan" excuse also doesn't wash, seeing as foreign releases of Bond films are generally given entirely different titles anyhow. And from what I understand, risico *doesn't* mean rice in Japan, either.

What does "B.S" mean?

[Mr Malcolm]

It rhymes with 'pull bit' so have a guess.

Actually, I'm wondering if the title 'Coded Lies' says it all really about the validity of this story!

[Vauxhall]

And according to another thread, the same website has now claimed that the title of BOND 22 will be DEATH TO SPIES

[Mr Malcolm]

I don't think Bond needs to show any loyalty to her to want to avenge her, he just has to feel it's the right thing to do

Well, true. But I'd much prefer it if they made Dench's M a surprise villain and Bond had to take her out. Would finally explain her baffling bitchiness, for one thing.

Just noticed this; where's M so bitchy? In GE and DAD, yes (especially the former), but that I felt it worked well enough in the context of those films; in GE, she's new to the job, with a bunch of underlings who don't have much respect for her, forcing her to assert herself, and in DAD, she suspects 007's been leaking information to the North Koreans; later, she does accept him back. In TND and TWINE meanwhile (and later in DAD too), M obviously does respect Bond, and indeed generally lets him get on with things.

I'll grant that she does seem somewhat incompetent at times, especially in TWINE (she goes from far too sappy to just careless), as well as not checking Miranda Frost's references properly, but I don't think you can damn her for being horrible to 007. Okay, rant over!

Back on topic, 'Death to Spies' is a marginally better title, but still quite rubbish, and probably just as much cow mess.