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[Harmsway]

After holding an intense anti-Craig/CASINO ROYALE stance, it's very interesting and a great sign to see moviehole.net changing its tune:

http://www.moviehole...nkey_15706.html

[box]Monkey

[Righty007]

I wish I could see some footage.

[Loomis]

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[Tarl_Cabot]

The car chase is better than Ronin's? It has to be better than Goldeneye on that merrit alone!

Goldeneye wasn't all that...

[killkenny kid]

The car chase is better than Ronin's? It has to be better than Goldeneye on that merrit alone!

Goldeneye wasn't all that...

indeed.

[marktmurphy]

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[K1Bond007]

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[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

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[Harmsway]

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[kneelbeforezod]

I know for a fact that it has, and I know in what way. It's been vastly improved into a really great sequence.

OOOOoooooooo that is music to my ears! Remember the 2nd unit director is the guy that did Bourne Identity, which bodes very well...

[Matt_13]

Good news.

[Fro]

Good to hear about another cool setpiece in the movie, and apparently one that is top-notch.

[Stephenson]

Excellent news, to be sure: great car chase and a cautious convert. It might be interesting to point out that Craig is playing Bond at the start of his game, when he is, as a character, out of his depth in the new world he has entered. I'm not sure what footage has been shown so far, but I would guess it would be the stuff that was shot earlier this year, which looked like it fits into the earlier parts of the film. I would assume this is the footage they would have had the time to polish so it was ready for public consumption. And it is in these parts that Craig is playing a kind of "proto-Bond", before he becomes the character "we all know and love." Maybe the footage seen so far shows Craig "acting" like a slightly confused and mildly intimidated agent. By the end, he may be "acting" like a confident secret agent. Just an idea.

Of course, he also may need time to settle into the role, as has been pointed out already.

[Loomis]

It might be interesting to point out that Craig is playing Bond at the start of his game, when he is, as a character, out of his depth in the new world he has entered. ... Craig is playing a kind of "proto-Bond", before he becomes the character "we all know and love." Maybe the footage seen so far shows Craig "acting" like a slightly confused and mildly intimidated agent. By the end, he may be "acting" like a confident secret agent. Just an idea.

Exactly. Nicely observed, Stephenson. It would be ludicrous to have him behaving like Connery in GOLDFINGER for most of the movie.

CRITIC: Craig's Bond seems amateurish and lost for much of the film.

BOND FAN: That's the whole flippin' point, dolt!

[SeanSean]

Guys..I know so many of you hate Pierce, but Goldeneye knocked it out of the park. Try to remember the state of the Bond franchise in 1995 before the release of Goldeneye and the state of it after.

Casino Royale will also knock the ball out of the park.

[Gobi-1]

Everything sounds great so far. I'm drooling over the thought of the car chase already. If you stop and think about it there really hasn't been a flat out traditional car chase in a Bond movie. It's either Bond in a tank, Bond being chased by a helicopter, Bond in the alley ways of Goldfinger's plant, chase in a parking garage, all of them have some sort of gimick.

I for one I'm dying to see an old fashion pedal to the metal car chase that covers a lot of ground, very quickly and feature spectacular crashes and jumps.

[Turn]

CRITIC: Craig's Bond seems amateurish and lost for much of the film.

BOND FAN: That's the whole flippin' point, dolt!

What you've done here is frighteningly forecast how a lot of critics will react to this. Many will also say it's not the James Bond we know and love and how this is a travesty and all that.

And if you had a dime for every time somebody is going to refer to this film as a "remake" of the 1967 Casino Royale you'd rival Goldfinger in the cash department. Not to mention how many headlines will read "Bond Begins."

[killkenny kid]

And if you had a dime for every time somebody is going to refer to this film as a "remake" of the 1967 Casino Royale you'd rival Goldfinger in the cash department. Not to mention how many headlines will read "Bond Begins."

I understang what you are saying. And if this happens then ths fault, will lay at the door of EON. For not getting the say out, that this isn't a remake or Bond Begins.

[JimmyBond]

Guys..I know so many of you hate Pierce, but Goldeneye knocked it out of the park. Try to remember the state of the Bond franchise in 1995 before the release of Goldeneye and the state of it after.

Let's be honest, any Bond film (presumably without Dalton) released in '95, would have "hit it out of the park." It had been six years since the last film, people were getting eager for another Bond film.

Incidentally, I don't hate Pierce, but I greatly dislike Goldeneye.

[Pussfeller]

GoldenEye was Pierce's best, and a solid Bond film to be sure. It had the advantage of a significantly higher budget, a superior concept, and a built-up appetite for Bond. However, it could have been a lot better. It lost steam and had a weak Bond girl. Plus it demolished Bond's character and never completely rebuilt him. He swayed wildly from witty gentleman spy to vulnerable, tortured soul. I hope Craig's character will be more coherent and organic, not just a hairsprayed pastiche of espionage cliches.

[stamper]

I understang what you are saying. And if this happens then ths fault, will lay at the door of EON. For not getting the say out, that this isn't a remake or Bond Begins.

I disagree, it's just that journalists are low and lazy. Lazy journalism have become the norm. They just print and see and hear what they want to print and see and hear.

I once got interviewed for the prime time news, for about 30mn I talked. They just kept two 12s parts, and got them together, to make me say the total contrary to my beliefs. Welcome to "journalism". They knew already what they were going to air, before they even met me.

[JimmyBond]

My girlfriends uncle manages a movie theater and he got the same treatment from the press. He gave an interview and in the interview said it was important for the parents to know what they're child is seeing. The "press" edited the tape to make it look like he said the parents shouldnt care what they're kids are watching.

[Shrublands]

Now this is very, VERY interesting.

This chap has been conducting an obsessive campaign against Craig and Casino Royale since day one. The fact that he has anything positive to say at all is quit simply miraculous.

He has changed his mind totally based on just seeing

[Flash1087]

This just got me more excited than before, somehow. As soon as they drop the R-word in reference to car chases, I'm contractually obligated to get jazzed for it.

[Nimsworth]

I understang what you are saying. And if this happens then ths fault, will lay at the door of EON. For not getting the say out, that this isn't a remake or Bond Begins.

Being a reboot of the Bond franchise as "Batman Begins" was a reboot of the Batman franchise wouldn't calling it Bond Begins (despite being stupid) be sort of accurate?

[MarcAngeDraco]

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[Simon]

Yup - for me the car chase begins and ends with the two from Ronin and the Bourne Supremacy.

Good luck to CR...

[Thunderfinger]

I understang what you are saying. And if this happens then ths fault, will lay at the door of EON. For not getting the say out, that this isn't a remake or Bond Begins.

I disagree, it's just that journalists are low and lazy. Lazy journalism have become the norm. They just print and see and hear what they want to print and see and hear.

I once got interviewed for the prime time news, for about 30mn I talked. They just kept two 12s parts, and got them together, to make me say the total contrary to my beliefs. Welcome to "journalism". They knew already what they were going to air, before they even met me.

I understang what you are saying. And if this happens then ths fault, will lay at the door of EON. For not getting the say out, that this isn't a remake or Bond Begins.

I disagree, it's just that journalists are low and lazy. Lazy journalism have become the norm. They just print and see and hear what they want to print and see and hear.

I once got interviewed for the prime time news, for about 30mn I talked. They just kept two 12s parts, and got them together, to make me say the total contrary to my beliefs. Welcome to "journalism". They knew already what they were going to air, before they even met me.

This is standard procedure for most journalists.

[Sir Charles]

I'm looking foreward to a cool car chase! Of course I hope it has SOME gimmick...Bond chase scenes are almost always unique in some way (as I think Sean Sean mentioned). Bond chasing villains in a stolen tank and eluding still more villains in a high-speed car-park chase are hilariously over-the-top fun (not to forget skiing down a bobsled chute...that freaks me out every time I watch it, thinking of Bogner skiing backwards)!
I hope they don't go the "realistic route" too heavily and retain a little "zany" fun as well.

Off the subject a bit here, but I've always thought a great Bond film idea would be to feature a rogue Q-Branch agent as the villain (or close aid). More To The Point: Imagine Bond being pursued by thugs driving cars equipped with dangerous offensive gadgets and Bond forced to elude (and out-wit) his enemies in an ordinary car.

[Dr. Noah]

A handy rule of thumb is if a guy posts his column on the Internet as "Monkey," he's not a big player in Hollywood...