'Bond 22' Unlikely For Campbell
#61
Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:47 PM
Well, he knows his Bond. DIE ANOTHER DAY is a good film (okay, it's not CASINO ROYALE, but, hey, it's still good - oh, have it your way then, I'll get me coat), and it was a hit.
More importantly, though, Tamahori knows all about bringing a bit of change to the series. And I strongly suspect that he was almost the director of CR.
I remember an interview with him in Sight & Sound round about the time DAD hit screens, and he made the interesting observation that, while he'd been allowed a surprisingly free creative hand by the standards of the Bond series, no one had ever been allowed to shake things up to a greater extent than Campbell on GOLDENEYE.... but that the director of the film following DAD would be permitted to shake things up even more than on GOLDENEYE. He did not explain why this was so, but looking back it's all very obvious. Broccoli and Wilson had clearly been talking to him in some detail about their plans to radically change the franchise with BOND 21, and why would they have done that unless they were considering him as the director?
Indeed, I recall a post a long while ago by a very reliable CBn staffer to the effect that Tamahori had indeed been offered BOND 21, and had accepted, but that it had all fallen through for whatever reason or reasons.
#62
Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:54 PM
Why do I want Tamahori back?
Well, he knows his Bond. DIE ANOTHER DAY is a good film (okay, it's not CASINO ROYALE, but, hey, it's still good - oh, have it your way then, I'll get me coat), and it was a hit.
More importantly, though, Tamahori knows all about bringing a bit of change to the series. And I strongly suspect that he was almost the director of CR.
I remember an interview with him in Sight & Sound round about the time DAD hit screens, and he made the interesting observation that, while he'd been allowed a surprisingly free creative hand by the standards of the Bond series, no one had ever been allowed to shake things up to a greater extent than Campbell on GOLDENEYE.... but that the director of the film following DAD would be permitted to shake things up even more than on GOLDENEYE. He did not explain why this was so, but looking back it's all very obvious. Broccoli and Wilson had clearly been talking to him in some detail about their plans to radically change the franchise with BOND 21, and why would they have done that unless they were considering him as the director?
Indeed, I recall a post a long while ago by a very reliable CBn staffer to the effect that Tamahori had indeed been offered BOND 21, and had accepted, but that it had all fallen through for whatever reason or reasons.
DAD was a good film visually........but had no story whatsoever in its second half.
Does LT have a track record for producing a great film from a more involving script.
#63
Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:56 PM
#64
Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:01 PM
Does LT have a track record for producing a great film from a more involving script.
Well, ONCE WERE WARRIORS was highly acclaimed. Assuming a BOND 22 script of the same standard of quality as that of CASINO ROYALE, and with the same terrific technical backup (Lamont, Arnold and co. seem likely to return, as ever), it's hard to believe that Tamahori could mess things up even if he tried. He made a smash hit in DIE ANOTHER DAY, the folks at Eon love him (erm, at least, I should imagine so).... what's not to like? Snap him up while he's still hot, I say!
#65
Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:55 PM
#66
Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:59 PM
#67
Posted 29 January 2007 - 11:01 PM
#68
Posted 29 January 2007 - 11:07 PM
My worry now would be that the new director would actually take Campbell's ideas too far. I think they got the right balance with CR, but a new director may say "Let's really see a gritty Bond with no quips, no fun at all and all in black & white!!!"
#69
Posted 29 January 2007 - 11:31 PM
Bummer. I'd really like to see MC come back.
Me too.
#70
Posted 30 January 2007 - 12:57 AM
I'm skeptical, but not closed to the possibility. What I hate about DAD is the dialogue, acting, and bad CGI, none of which I can blame on Tamahori. Still, I don't see what makes him any more special than, say, Roger Spottiswoode.I want Tamahori back.
(That wasn't a joke.)
#71
Posted 30 January 2007 - 01:36 AM
There's one guy I'm suprised noone has mentioned as a potential director - Paul Haggis.
#72
Posted 30 January 2007 - 04:06 AM
So it is Michael Bay for Bond22. I heard he makes good character driven movies.
Or maybe Bryan Singer. He will show Bond having a kid. With Rosa Kleb as the mother. And half of the dialogue and the scenes will be the same as the earlier 21 movies. Only good thing will be Kevin Spacy as Blofeld.
Bond to son "You will be different, sometimes you'll feel like an outcast, but you'll never be alone. You will make my strength your own. You will see my life through your eyes, as your life will be seen through mine. The son becomes the father and the father becomes the son."
#73
Posted 30 January 2007 - 09:33 AM
More importantly, though, Tamahori knows all about bringing a bit of change to the series. And I strongly suspect that he was almost the director of CR.
Indeed, I recall a post a long while ago by a very reliable CBn staffer to the effect that Tamahori had indeed been offered BOND 21, and had accepted, but that it had all fallen through for whatever reason or reasons.
DAD was a good film visually........but had no story whatsoever in its second half.
Does LT have a track record for producing a great film from a more involving script.
I doubt very much that Tamahori was approached for CASINO ROYALE. He was somewhat caught up in an uncompromising situation stateside that left him doing the sequel to XXX. Not sure I want a Bond director who has done Bond rip-off sequels back at the helm. The fact that DIE ANOTHER DAY ran out of plot half way through would not strictly have been his doing. The second unit hit upon the idea of the car chase in the ice palace during production and the last act of the script was changed at the eleventh hour.
However, check out ONCE WERE WARRIORS if you need evidence that Tamahori can produce a great film with an involving script. That film was the one that got him DIE ANOTHER DAY.
Shame. I think he really improved over his relatively weak and boring work on GoldenEye. I'd love to see the return of Bond directors with their own eras, especially if they synch up well with the current Bond, and I think that's certainly the case here.
I'm skeptical, but not closed to the possibility. What I hate about DAD is the dialogue, acting, and bad CGI, none of which I can blame on Tamahori. Still, I don't see what makes him any more special than, say, Roger Spottiswoode.I want Tamahori back.
(That wasn't a joke.)
Spottiswode knows how to edit and pace a film. I'm not so sure Tamahori can - well, not a Bond film anyway.
#74
Posted 30 January 2007 - 09:43 AM
Spottiswoode of "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot" & "Air America"? TND's 2nd half is like DAD's 2nd half and just goes on without pausing for any story. Ditto with "The 6th Day". LT was a better director than RS. At least that is what I felt on seeing The Edge. XXX2 sucked big time....Spottiswode knows how to edit and pace a film. ...
Moral - Both RS & LT are hacks.
#75
Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:08 AM
Spottiswoode of "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot" & "Air America"? TND's 2nd half is like DAD's 2nd half and just goes on without pausing for any story. Ditto with "The 6th Day". LT was a better director than RS. At least that is what I felt on seeing The Edge. XXX2 sucked big time....Spottiswode knows how to edit and pace a film. ...
Moral - Both RS & LT are hacks.
I would rate Spottiswode as a far more accomplished film maker than Tamahori. The man used to be Sam Peckinpah's editor for God's sake!!
Besides, TOMORROW NEVER DIES is a vastly superior film to DIE ANOTHER DAY, no?
Edited by Zorin Industries, 30 January 2007 - 10:08 AM.
#76
Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:23 AM
For some reason, I hope Campbell doesn't come back. Not sure why, it just seems like a better idea to bring in someone with fresh ideas.
There's one guy I'm suprised noone has mentioned as a potential director - Paul Haggis.
No reason why Campbell shouldn't return, I think.
But.....here's another outsider that has popped into my mind. Len Wiseman! I haven't even seen the Underworld movies, but if he's been given the Die Hard gig then the brass must have faith. And Willis rarely makes a bad move.
Andy
#77
Posted 30 January 2007 - 10:28 AM
I have seen the first Underworld film and I would suggest you to not even think of Len Wiseman and Good movie in the same sentence. As for Willis - he has lost it totally since Demi left him. When was his last hit? 1999? 6TH Sense?But.....here's another outsider that has popped into my mind. Len Wiseman! I haven't even seen the Underworld movies, but if he's been given the Die Hard gig then the brass must have faith. And Willis rarely makes a bad move.
Andy
Babs and Wilson will not touch Len with a bargepole.
Well Sam P didnt make any Bond films, did he? The 1st half of DAD is much better than TND. The 2nd half of both films is almost similar and has no story, just action.I would rate Spottiswode as a far more accomplished film maker than Tamahori. The man used to be Sam Peckinpah's editor for God's sake!!
Besides, TOMORROW NEVER DIES is a vastly superior film to DIE ANOTHER DAY, no?
#78
Posted 31 January 2007 - 02:45 AM
#79
Posted 31 January 2007 - 04:38 AM
The director search continues...
#80
Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:23 AM
Why do I want Tamahori back?
Well, he knows his Bond. DIE ANOTHER DAY is a good film (okay, it's not CASINO ROYALE, but, hey, it's still good - oh, have it your way then, I'll get me coat), and it was a hit.
More importantly, though, Tamahori knows all about bringing a bit of change to the series. And I strongly suspect that he was almost the director of CR.
I remember an interview with him in Sight & Sound round about the time DAD hit screens, and he made the interesting observation that, while he'd been allowed a surprisingly free creative hand by the standards of the Bond series, no one had ever been allowed to shake things up to a greater extent than Campbell on GOLDENEYE.... but that the director of the film following DAD would be permitted to shake things up even more than on GOLDENEYE. He did not explain why this was so, but looking back it's all very obvious. Broccoli and Wilson had clearly been talking to him in some detail about their plans to radically change the franchise with BOND 21, and why would they have done that unless they were considering him as the director?
Indeed, I recall a post a long while ago by a very reliable CBn staffer to the effect that Tamahori had indeed been offered BOND 21, and had accepted, but that it had all fallen through for whatever reason or reasons.
DAD was a good film visually........but had no story whatsoever in its second half.
Does LT have a track record for producing a great film from a more involving script.
plus Lee has some...... mental/social issues that need resolving....
what about Benicio del Toro? After seeing Children of Men... I think he could pull off Bond
#81
Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:44 AM
If he had done Casino Royale, then Bond would have been called something like John Smith until his second kill, then you would have seen John Smith deleted from the computer and James Bond 007 replaced.
Indeed. I don't want someone who doesn't understand Bond in charge of a movie where Bond is still being defined.
#82
Posted 31 January 2007 - 06:01 AM
while adding that he would not likely be directing the next Bond film despite the global success of Casino Royale.
It's a simple yes or no, really. Maybe he's holding out for a better deal. Oh well
#83
Posted 31 January 2007 - 07:49 AM
However, I do think that Campbell does not want to do Bond 22 because a) he is tired and rightfully so (not only the production but also the time consuming process of promoting the film can take a toll on anyone, especially considering his age) and CR was such a hit with audiences and the critics that you can only lose if you go at it again. I guess it was the same thing with GE for Campbell. The sensible thing for him will be to wait at least until Bond 23.
Funny. Lots of people who hated Campbell when he was announced for CR now desperately want him to be at the helm of Bond 22, thinking that he will guarantee the same quality.
I say: let
#84
Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:42 AM
Edited by Shamelord, 31 January 2007 - 09:50 AM.
#85
Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:48 AM
Funny. Lots of people who hated Campbell when he was announced for CR now desperately want him to be at the helm of Bond 22, thinking that he will guarantee the same quality.
I wouldn't mind any new or old name -- except Michael Apted, not prepared to the genre I think. With a good script the Spottiswoode and Tamahoris can do great movies full of energy as they did in the past (Under Fire, Once Were Warriors).
Now I was reluctant when Martin Campbell was announced because I thought that his work on GoldenEye was more regular than exceptional. Now I'm happy he proved me wrong as Casino Royale was directed with flair and style. To my state, it's the best of any movie he did.
He has grown obviously and may have been inspired by a good story. So as much as I didn't expect him for Bond 21 following GoldenEye, I can now hope he'll do Bond 22 following a great Casino Royale. Only fools don't change their minds, after all.
#86
Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:20 AM
Besides, TOMORROW NEVER DIES is a vastly superior film to DIE ANOTHER DAY, no?
No.
what about Benicio del Toro? After seeing Children of Men... I think he could pull off Bond
Well, he was good as Dario in LICENCE TO KILL, but....
#87
Posted 31 January 2007 - 12:13 PM
I like Quentin Taratino.
#88
Posted 31 January 2007 - 03:51 PM
I think we have covered possible directors on another thread. But there are many directors who would be interesting choices without going back to LT or RS or MC. Let's bring more fresh blood into the series.
I like Quentin Taratino.
He would never be able to do it - for good or bad. He is too much of an auteur to allow a second unit to go off and shoot without him (the BOND films are very logistically structured that way) and he is not / refuses to be part of the American Directors Guild. I could be wrong on that one, but I'm sure I read that Eon cannot politically consider him because of that.
#89
Posted 31 January 2007 - 04:58 PM
I would say that whatever Martin Campbell says, there is still a 60% chance that he'll direct Bond 22.
Edited by I never miss, 31 January 2007 - 04:59 PM.
#90
Posted 31 January 2007 - 05:35 PM
Surely Matthew Vaughan - touted as a possible for CR, and with a Layer Cake history with DC - is a good candidate for the job? Remember that Eon generally go for Commonwealth-born directors.
I would say that whatever Martin Campbell says, there is still a 60% chance that he'll direct Bond 22.
Hope your name is right this time and that Campbell and Eon are just dickering over dough. From what I know of Screenland, the safest rule of thumb is probably: Be certain of nothing of nothing until the check's cashed.