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[Shrublands]

Now on the CBn main page...

Crashing An Aston Martin In Casino Royale

_{Or two, or three...}

And so the all the DBS got destroyed at Millbrook Vehicle Proving Ground in Bedford during filming.

The Sun : 007 in Crashino Royale

I would hazard a guess, that the first unit has been at the Dunsfold Park Aerodrome for a bit (judging by the recent photos of Craig in action there) and the second unit have been occupied doing this.

[Broadsword]

Holy Mother..


where is the spoiler warning though?

I can't belive this.

I was only saying the other day that they won't wreck the Astons...

like the way the SUn tried to make it all very dramatic when it all seems like it went according to plan

[marktmurphy]

Excellent stuff- thanks for the link: I may buy it today.

Millbrook, eh? And by the sounds of it they may have used the Alpine route which I have driven on. It's probably the best road in the country- great fun!

[Simon]

I guess this makes redundant my thoughts that all Astons in Bond films contractually had to finish their term in perfect condition - ie, not smashed to hell and gone.

[JimmyBond]

I was only saying the other day that they won't wreck the Astons...

Yeah well, anyone who's read the novel (and I realize you havent) knew you were wrong about that

[Simon]

Yeah well, anyone who's read the novel (and I realize you havent) knew you were wrong about that

Hmm. Thank god they aren't filming Spy again then if the novel is the be all and end all of script conclusions.

[JimmyBond]

Yeah well, anyone who's read the novel (and I realize you havent) knew you were wrong about that

Hmm. Thank god they aren't filming Spy again then if the novel is the be all and end all of script conclusions.

I wouldnt mind a proper adaption of Spy.

[marktmurphy]

So... it does say they filmed this in the afternoon- in the book it's at night (and from hazy memory... is he travelling straight from the casino?).

And does the 'alpine' setting refer to the actual location it's supposed to be or just the 'Alpine Circuit' at Millbrook (a great twisty road down the side of a steep hill designed to test the handling of new cars)?
Italian Alps perhaps? Shades of the begining of the Italian Job? Bond's bulldozer from earlier in the film doesn't come back to haunt him, does it?

[Vauxhall]

So... it does say they filmed this in the afternoon- in the book it's at night (and from hazy memory... is he travelling straight from the casino?).

Yes, in the book it's night/early morning, and Bond leaves from the casino.

And does the 'alpine' setting refer to the actual location it's supposed to be or just the 'Alpine Circuit' at Millbrook (a great twisty road down the side of a steep hill designed to test the handling of new cars)?
Italian Alps perhaps? Shades of the begining of the Italian Job? Bond's bulldozer from earlier in the film doesn't come back to haunt him, does it?

Not Italy I don't think; I believe the car chase is meant to be in the hills of Montenegro. Don't know about the bulldozer making a surprise appearance though!

[Qwerty]

Now on the CBn main page...

Crashing An Aston Martin In Casino Royale

_{Or two, or three...}

[Jericho_One]

Aaaaaarrrrghhhh.... The sight of the smashed cars will haunt me for weeks to come... Honestly.

[The Dove]

The horror!! The horror!! What a shame that those beautiful Aston Martins had to be sacrificed in such a brutal way!! Oh well, I'm sure that it'll be well worth what the chase sequence turns out in the film!! Pain is temporary, film is forever as they say!!

[DLibrasnow]

"Alpine chase"

So much for the no-snow-this-time CBn thread.

[Shrublands]

"Alpine chase"

So much for the no-snow-this-time CBn thread.

I don

[delfloria]

I can't imagine a production company flipping the real astons when it would make much more sense to build fibreglass replica bodies to do the job. Same as they did with the BMW's in TWINE. Also they will need the real Astons for publicity tours not to mention possible reshoots later on. I'm sceptical at best that they trashed the real ones.

[marktmurphy]

"Alpine chase"

So much for the no-snow-this-time CBn thread.

Umm; you know it's summer in the UK right now- not much snow around. And laying a couple of miles of fake snow ain't exactly cost effective. More likely they said 'Alpine setting' because they filmed on what is known as the 'Alpine circuit' of Millbrook.

Plus, If you were to go to the Alps, do you think it would be a snowy place?

I can't imagine a production company flipping the real astons when it would make much more sense to build fibreglass replica bodies to do the job. Same as they did with the BMW's in TWINE. Also they will need the real Astons for publicity tours not to mention possible reshoots later on. I'm sceptical at best that they trashed the real ones.

Hmm- fibreglass tends to break; not bend like metal. Those Astons look bent to me, and when you've got the factory turning 'em out for you; what's easier? Build your own with lots of expensive modelmaking, or get the factory to trot some out. They're both going to be hand-built: what's the difference?

[Jericho_One]

"Alpine chase"

So much for the no-snow-this-time CBn thread.

Umm; you know it's summer in the UK right now- not much snow around. And laying a couple of miles of fake snow ain't exactly cost effective. More likely they said 'Alpine setting' because they filmed on what is known as the 'Alpine circuit' of Millbrook.

Plus, If you were to go to the Alps, do you think it would be a snowy place?

I can't imagine a production company flipping the real astons when it would make much more sense to build fibreglass replica bodies to do the job. Same as they did with the BMW's in TWINE. Also they will need the real Astons for publicity tours not to mention possible reshoots later on. I'm sceptical at best that they trashed the real ones.

Hmm- fibreglass tends to break; not bend like metal. Those Astons look bent to me, and when you've got the factory turning 'em out for you; what's easier? Build your own with lots of expensive modelmaking, or get the factory to trot some out. They're both going to be hand-built: what's the difference?

The point is, we don't know what kind of deal was struck with the guys at Aston Martin Lagonda. We don't even know if the people in production were supposed to trash three cars in a row.
Anyway, They must have shot a hell of an action sequence - Three smashed cars...

[marktmurphy]

The point is, we don't know what kind of deal was struck with the guys at Aston Martin Lagonda. We don't even know if the people in production were supposed to trash three cars in a row.

I've no idea what you mean: they don't just make it up on the spot. If the three were prepared for crashing with the air ram etc. set into them, they were intended to crash. This is dangerous stuff- you don't just suddenly decide to stuff them all because you feel like it!

It's not as if Aston won't be building new ones- it doesn't really matter.

[Jim]

Well, now we know where the budget's going.

[Jericho_One]

The point is, we don't know what kind of deal was struck with the guys at Aston Martin Lagonda. We don't even know if the people in production were supposed to trash three cars in a row.

I've no idea what you mean: they don't just make it up on the spot. If the three were prepared for crashing with the air ram etc. set into them, they were intended to crash. This is dangerous stuff- you don't just suddenly decide to stuff them all because you feel like it!

It's not as if Aston won't be building new ones- it doesn't really matter.

I should explain myself better: I meant: doesn't it strike you a bit odd to destroy three cars for planned scenes? Of course I know they just don't decide to wreck them, that would just be utterly stupid.
All I was saying is if that wrecking was entirely planned. Maybe something didn't go as planned and they ended up smashing more stuff than they wanted to in the first place.
But then again, no problem at all. It just sounds a bit confusing to spend so much money, that

[K1Bond007]

I love how this is spoiler'ed but the headline gives it all away.

Nice one. Not that I care, but for those trying not to be spoiled by anything (regardless if it's in the book), you guys kinda blew it here for them.

[Mister Asterix]

[mra]Interesting that the cars in The Sun

[marktmurphy]

[quote name='Jericho_One' post='567121' date='19 June 2006 - 20:01']
I should explain myself better: I meant: doesn't it strike you a bit odd to destroy three cars for planned scenes? Of course I know they just don't decide to wreck them, that would just be utterly stupid.
All I was saying is if that wrecking was entirely planned. Maybe something didn't go as planned and they ended up smashing more stuff than they wanted to in the first place.
[/quote]

It's possible- perhaps they didn't flip right, or perhaps the crash has a couple of stages to it- maybe even different camera setups were required that were unsafe or in shot in other views. Whichever way, it's not like they were unprepared for the eventuality of crashing all of them so it doesn't really matter. There'll be more of them made by the time the film turns up, if indeed these weren't mules that Aston knocked up for them. They weren't replicas, but they may not have been quite as perfectly finished as the proper DBS.

[quote name='Mister Asterix' post='567123' date='19 June 2006 - 20:04']
[mra]Interesting that the cars in The Sun

[Bondian]

Looks like what you'd see at the average car dealer forecourt here in the UK, to me.

Slight exaggeration by the Sun by saying "we had to smash three to pieces?.

[DLibrasnow]

Slight exaggeration by the Sun .....

LOL....I can't say I am surprised....a lot of what The Sun says should be prefaced with this.

[Jericho_One]

I only brought up the matter about the deal between EON and Aston Martin because it is still a bit unclear (at least according to the available information) if the new DBS is going into production for commercial purposes or not. I've read the two versions. The version wich says the car is going to be commercialized also points out that only 300 are being made.
And if more cars are still needed in pristine condition for the production, bear in mind that an Aston Martin isn't built in a few days.

Oh, the glorious world of big bucks and moviemaking...

[marktmurphy]

Slight exaggeration by the Sun .....

LOL....I can't say I am surprised....a lot of what The Sun says should be prefaced with this.

I wish people would stop bashing the tabloids- it's where we've got pretty much all of our information from, from Craig's casting to shooting details to first look at publicity shots to whatever you want, really. They might embellish a little, but they're good newsgatherers and distributors. Let's give them a little respect, bearing in mind how much stuff they give us!

I only brought up the matter about the deal between EON and Aston Martin because it is still a bit unclear (at least according to the available information) if the new DBS is going into production for commercial purposes or not. I've read the two versions. The version wich says the car is going to be commercialized also points out that only 300 are being made.
And if more cars are still needed in pristine condition for the production, bear in mind that an Aston Martin isn't built in a few days.

I can't honestly see that there's any doubt that the DBS will be made- why else did they stick limited edition plaques on these cars? It's not a hugely difficult built, being so closely based on the DB9 as it is: they're going ahead with building the Rapide which is a much bigger surprise, so this little DB9 special edition doesn't seem too incredible. And I'd imagine there's at least 300 super rich Bond fans willing to pay for them (question is, will they take extra to print a no.'007' plaque out for those who slip 'em a few notes? ).

As for reshoots- IF they have destroyed all of the DBS in existance at the moment but discover they need to reshoot something, they're in the middle of a pretty tight schedule- I doubt they've got much time to just slip in a couple of extra days messing around in motor cars. They'd presumably have to wait for the end of the shoot, and IF they need to use the car again, I'd be willing to bet Aston will have knocked another up by then.

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

And if more cars are still needed in pristine condition for the production, bear in mind that an Aston Martin isn't built in a few days.

Shouldn't be a problem. They would have made damn sure that they got all the scenes featuring the Aston in the can before smashing them up.

[Jericho_One]

They're building the Rapide?

Wow, interesting news. Looking forward to see how it's going to be received.
Thanks for the info.

[marktmurphy]

They're building the Rapide?

Wow, interesting news. Looking forward to see how it's going to be received.
Thanks for the info.

Apparently so: http://www.leftlanen...for-production/ although I couldn't find any mention on the Aston site!