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[marktmurphy]

Obviously, they've used Craig’s birthday as Bonds...but that is not correct.

It's the date (although not year, obviously!) Casino Royale was published, in fact.

[Mr. Somerset]

Born: West Germany, 13 April 1968.

Educated at the London School of Economics (presumably on the Royal Navy's dime, since we're told he was in the Navy between the ages of 17 and 31).

Much more interesting stuff here, although I'm not sure whether it all hangs together in any remotely plausible way. Anything in particular jumping out at anyone? Anyway, let the discussion of Bond's background begin!

April 13th? That's my birthday! How about that?
Pearson lists Bond's birthday as 11/11/ 1920, if memory serves correct.

[zencat]

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Obviously, they've used Craig

[Jeff007]

Love the histoy. For anyone who knows Military Personnel, Craig just has that "F'U, do you know how many tours and operations I've been on?", look about him. The only thing different is that Bond is a polished character with class which is why we like him. Craig has this too aspect too. Can't wait.

[Bryce (003)]

It's certainly a fresh take. Maloney's evaluation is great - subtle stuff, but damn good. It's got to be some of Haggis' work and I truly enjoyed it. Creative, yet acknowledging the past.

I still would have preferred the 11 November birthdate - something about it being the same date as the end to WWI would have kept the charm. Although, astrologically, it does make THIS 007 a fire sign out of the elements.

True of November too.

I guess this makes the whole "reboot" theory official in some regards.

[kneelbeforezod]

So, is anybody finding it slightly easier to believe Craig's Bond served in the Special Forces and did service in Iraq, Bosnia etc. than Brosnan's Bond doing it?

Very true. I believe that Craig has been through all that... same with Connery and Dalton. The same cannot be said for Moore and Brosnan lol... despite the affection I have for them.

[darkpath]

[quote name='JCRendle' post='558119' date='20 May 2006 - 13:29']
Ian Fleming's Bond Dossier

BOND, JAMES
HEIGHT: 183 CENTIMETRES
WEIGHT: 76 KILOS
SCAR ON RIGHT SHOULDER
SIGNS OF PLASTIC SURGERY ON BACK OF RIGHT HAND
EXPERT PISTOL SHOT, BOXER, KNIFE THROWER
DOES NOT USE DISGUISES
LANGUAGES: FRENCH, GERMAN
VICES: DRINK, BUT NOT TO EXCESS, AND WOMEN

NOT THOUGHT TO ACCEPT BRIBESTHIS MAN IS A DANGEROUS PROFESSIONAL SPY WHO HOLDS A SECRET SERVICE NUMBER WITH THE

[Righty007]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

[Tarl_Cabot]

"Bond does drink but never to excess"

LOL And I thought he was Brittish!

Fascinating and very enjoyable read.I loved it! Sounds like Eon is really serious about rebooting Bond. What's not to like? I also love the fact that he was involved in Iraq, a hugely unpopular war;Bond the character doesn't give a toss about Hollywood's politics because his job is to kick butt and take names and I love that Eon didn't pander to them. Very cool dossier. He sounds like a plausible character, albiet extremely accomplished and alpha male studly. Finally, Bond is a real character again. *Pops Casino Royale Vue Clicot champange*

[Righty007]

I also love the fact that he was involved in Iraq, a hugely unpopular war; Bond the character doesn't give a toss about Hollywood's politics because his job is to kick butt and take names and I love that Eon didn't pander to them.

Bond served in Iraq during the Gulf War not the current one.

[medrecess]

from dr no i believe

[K1Bond007]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

[Vauxhall]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

[K1Bond007]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

Which would have made him 38. It would be May 6, although I can't help but think you're probably both wrong It's probably May 16, which would be Brosnan's actual birthday (sans the year). At least that would make more sense. May 6 doesn't really stick out to me as a notable date in Bond history.

Thanks for the info though. I'll have to look this up.

[Loomis]

I also love the fact that he was involved in Iraq, a hugely unpopular war; Bond the character doesn't give a toss about Hollywood's politics because his job is to kick butt and take names and I love that Eon didn't pander to them.

Bond served in Iraq during the Gulf War not the current one.

Can't be bothered to look this up, but I think it says he was involved in the current one (looking for WMD, infiltrating the country on special ops, etc.), and also Afghanistan. But it depends what you mean by "served" - in the first Gulf War, he was a naval officer, but in the current one was a secret agent.

[marktmurphy]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

Whereas DaltonBond was born on the 10th of November 1948:



Which makes him two years younger than Dalton. So Craig's Bond is actually one of the few to give his real age!

[Santa]

I also love the fact that he was involved in Iraq, a hugely unpopular war

Which of the wars would you call 'popular', I wonder?

[marktmurphy]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

Which would have made him 38.

And 25 (!) in the GoldenEye pre-titles! Bless ya Pierce; you're well preserved, but not that well preserved!

[stamper]

Born in 1968 ? I hope no one on this board is going to commit suicide.

Finally we have our earth 1 Bond. the other Incarnation is Earth 2.

Now, roll on the fun. It's only a movie...

[Tanger]

Yes, I wish they hadn't given a year for his birth, it brings up all sorts of continuity issues for the trolls to lose their knickers over.

How? It's a Reboot. There is not continuity to the previous films.

I doubt it'll make it into the film anyway. They're hardly going to openly contradict the previous films to that extent.

See above.

How are people still not getting this?

[Bond#9-GeorgeKemp]

I do agree that this brings up some continuity issues and that mystery is a big attraction of Bond but I think if a birthday and some school records are what it takes to make this character more believeable and real for people in this re-vamp, it had to be done.
I'm all for the scorpio birthday though, but I'm biased! I've just joined and this is my first post by the way everyone (even though I've been reading for ages) and I'd like to say hey and it's great to have somewhere to voice my views on Bond rather than bore my friends to tears! Thanks CBn!

[Santa]

Yes, I wish they hadn't given a year for his birth, it brings up all sorts of continuity issues for the trolls to lose their knickers over.

How? It's a Reboot. There is not continuity to the previous films.

Oh, you mean it's not about James Bond 007, secret agent?



How are people still not getting this?

[marktmurphy]

Yes, I wish they hadn't given a year for his birth, it brings up all sorts of continuity issues for the trolls to lose their knickers over.

How? It's a Reboot. There is not continuity to the previous films.

Absolutely right- and if you look at the discussion above you'll notice that Bond's birthdate has changed for each version so far anyway- the last two were born in 1948 and 1961 separately. Another birthdate changes absolutely nothing.

[Bond#9-GeorgeKemp]

Yes, I wish they hadn't given a year for his birth, it brings up all sorts of continuity issues for the trolls to lose their knickers over.

How? It's a Reboot. There is not continuity to the previous films.

Absolutely right- and if you look at the discussion above you'll notice that Bond's birthdate has changed for each version so far anyway- the last two were born in 1948 and 1961 separately. Another birthdate changes absolutely nothing.

Good point Mark, from the sounds of it, they've all had different birth dates, even if Pierce's was a little exaggerated, so why should Craig be any different?

[Harmsway]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

Whereas DaltonBond was born on the 10th of November 1948:



Which makes him two years younger than Dalton. So Craig's Bond is actually one of the few to give his real age!

Interesting! I didn't know such wide birthdate variance existed in the films themselves (albeit on props).

[David Schofield]

It would be fascinating to know if Connery/Laz/Rog Bond all had the SAME birthdate.

Or not.

[Pam Bouvier]

Well, I'm not an expert on this, but Scorpios are known to be deadly, devious, and HIGHLY sexual (they also project predatory sexual energy). They are scorpions.
Of course, I might be wrong and April 13 is not Pisces, but the next sign. Still, I always though Pearson making Bond a Scorpio was exactly right. Bond is practically the definition of a Scorpio. I believe Fleming was also a Scorpio, wasn't he?

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Scorpio's by reputation, are passionate, stubborn, and secretive. Very Bondlike. I thought Fleming may have deliberately placed Bond as one.

By the way, I am one as well

[K1Bond007]

According to EON Productions, Pierce Brosnan's James Bond was born on June 5, 1961 so I have no problem with Craig's incarnation being born on April 13, 1968.

Where is this coming from?

Actually I thought it was May 6, 1961 - depending on which way you read the date! I personally got the supposed information from the prop that was the medical evaluation of Bond given by Molly Warmflash in TWINE. The date of birth for Bond was listed as 6.5.1961.

Which would have made him 38.

And 25 (!) in the GoldenEye pre-titles! Bless ya Pierce; you're well preserved, but not that well preserved!

From what I gather, he's supposed to be 37/38 in just about every film (as he is in the novels). It may not come out like that (Moore's tenure - especially AVTAK), but I think that's what they're shooting for. In GoldenEye he would have been born in 1956-57 or something depending on the month. As odd as it is I think he's also supposed to be 37/38 in the pre-titles. So...

I guess I didn't know they actually came up with all these dates for the other Bonds. Neat, I suppose, if not cringeworthy that it kind of gives credibility to Tamahori's .

[JameswpBond]

I like the background they've given him!

[Bonita]

"The plane skirted the great eye-tooth of Mont Blanc, a few hundred yards to port, and Bond looked down at the dirty grey elephant's skin of the glaciers and saw himself again, a young man in his teens, with the leading end of the rope round his waist, bracing himself against the top of a rock-chimney on the Aiguilles Rouges as his two companions from the University of Geneva inched up the smooth rock towards him."

Ian Fleming, From Russia With Love
Ch. 13, "B.E.A. takes you there..."

Haven't seen the CR site, but someone said Fleming never said Bond attended the U of Geneva. Maybe not, but he certainly had close friends who did!

Keep dancing,
Bonita