James Bond 007 in '007
#31
Posted 04 May 2006 - 12:47 AM
#32
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:02 AM
EON will need to respond to this if its not true.
#33
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:15 AM
Nah...with all the junk that's printed everyday, true or untrue, I don't think Eon has to respond to anything. They're too busy making a kick- movie.All from the Daily Express article.
EON will need to respond to this if its not true.
#34
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:22 AM
#35
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:50 AM
#36
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:55 AM
#37
Posted 04 May 2006 - 01:57 AM
#38
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:08 AM
#39
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:12 AM
That's a good point, but I think the only reason he might only stay for 3 films is because it would take a couple years in between each one. But if they make them quickly (Bond 2.2 in 2007, Bond 2.3 in 2008 or 2009), then I think Craig might stay on for a couple more films because he isn't spending too much time on them.
If that's Craig's thinking behind it, then I'm all for Bond 22 in 2007. But, I don't think that they should start making them once a year, because if they become very frequent things at the box office, they won't be as special and won't be the event films that they have come to be over the past couple of decades. If there's no wait for a Bond film, then there's no anticipation, which could potentially lead to the downfall of the franchise if they're not careful about it. But, if they can get one out in 2007 to capitalize on "007 in 2007", then go for it.
#40
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:19 AM
#41
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:50 AM
#42
Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:24 AM
I would love a 2007 release simply because it means another bond movie, sooner! but in seriousness I can only see it having a detremental effect, maybe Pervis and Wade's script is nearing completion but without 2 years to hammer out a plot and get the casting right (and we know how much trouble they have with that!!) I don't think it's worth the risk of Bond 22 turning into a Low quality, un-inspired wet fish of a film, especially as it follows on from the highly contraversial Casino Royale, cause there's sure be no time for Paul Haggis re-rights and the likes if they were based on a timescale of just 365 days. Sure, no film in 2-007 would definatly seem to be a missed opertunity, but think of the alternative.
No time for Haggis re-writes? By the time P&W gave the CR script to Haggis to re-write, it was no sooner than October, and CR is moving along quite well. If they can finish the script for Bond 22 by this October, I don't see any problem of there being not enough time for bringing someone in to "polish" the script.
#43
Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:51 AM
Casino Royale completes filming in June and Craig wouldn't have to start promoting in until October so he would have time to take a break and shoot a small film in between. After he completes the publicity campaign he'll be ready for the cameras to roll in January.
After the unessesary four year break they owe it to us the get the next film out as soon as possible.
Most of the people who work on the Bond films start another project as soon as they're finished with Bond anyway so I don't see why it wouldn't be a problem for them to start work on another Bond film. That's they're job. You make a movie and then you move on to the next one.
#44
Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:56 AM
If they can finish the script for Bond 22 by this October, I don't see any problem of there being not enough time for bringing someone in to "polish" the script.
Purvis and Wade had better be done with the script for Bond 2.2 by October. We know from the press conference that they have been working on it since Oct. 2005 if not sooner so then October 2006 will mean they will have been working on the script for a whole year.
If Purvis and Wade have not already completed their work on the script I expect they are close to having it done, which means another scriptwriter could be brought in this summer to polish up Bond 2.2.
I cannot see it taking over a year to write the script which means they should have a script in hand for Bond 2.2 by the end of 2006.
#45
Posted 04 May 2006 - 04:14 AM
I'm usually cautious on news like this, but I want to be optimistic here, because I'd love to see another Bond film within a year.
#46
Posted 04 May 2006 - 04:48 AM
#47
Posted 04 May 2006 - 08:25 AM
I agree - Bond 22 in 2007 is absolutely possible. And the very fact that EON said at the press conference that work on the script for 22 is already going on is IMO a hint towards that goal.
I totally agree. Neal Purvis and Robert Wade should have the script completed no later than October and most likely sooner. That is enough time to have another writer like Paul Haggis or whomever to polish it. Haggis was able to do it between October and January so there's no reason why it couldn't be done again. As for casting, the casting wasn't being filled until January so again, no problem there. And I wouldn't be surprised if Bond 22 didn't start shooting until early February. Shoot, it nearly did it this time around.
As has been mentioned, Daniel Craig and the cast, as well as most of the crew, will be finished with the film in June. That is a six to seven month timeframe to recharge batteries or work on other films. That should be plenty of time. Not only was Live And Let Die and The Man With The Golden Gun filmed in consecutive years, so were the first FOUR Bond films. Granted, the movies are a little bigger now but if The Lord Of The Rings trilogy can do it, the Bond films certainly should.
The biggest problem with this scenario is Craig having to juggle the start of filming of Bond 22 with all the press engagements and movie premieres of Casino Royale in January. But I see this as a one-time thing as 007 in 2007 is a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity. After this year, I expect them to go back to doing the Bond films every other year.
Besides, I'm sure this idea of filming Casino Royale and Bond 22 in back-to-back years was discussed when Craig was signing on for the role. I wouldn't be surprised if most, if not all, the crew of Casino Royale were hired for Bond 22 as well. And with Bond 22 being a continuation of sorts from Casino Royale (and some characters returning? Sorry, haven't read the script.) it makes sense to keep the actors around to have a quick turnaround.
If this rumor is true, EON will have generated a LOT of goodwill in the Bond fan community. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I do believe 007 in 2007 can happen--and will happen. There's a lot of little clues and innuendo out there pointing to that fact, stuff that hasn't been there in over 20 years. As Sean Connery said in From Russia With Love, "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
At least I hope so.
#48
Posted 04 May 2006 - 08:56 AM
They did it in the beginning, Dr.No (62) - FRWL (63) - GF (64) - TB (65)
If they consider CR a new beginning, so why not?
I think the main problem they have, is how CR will do with the audience.
If Cr will be a big deal, so they'll surely try to score a new goal, so we'll have Bond 2.2 in 2007
If CR will fail, and DC will fail, I think they will take a break, to reconsider every thing.
In my opinion DC will light the curiosity of the people, so I thing CR will be a big deal, like it was with Goldeneye and Brosnan era.
#49
Posted 04 May 2006 - 09:12 AM
But, I don't think that they should start making them once a year, because if they become very frequent things at the box office, they won't be as special and won't be the event films that they have come to be over the past couple of decades. If there's no wait for a Bond film, then there's no anticipation, which could potentially lead to the downfall of the franchise if they're not careful about it. But, if they can get one out in 2007 to capitalize on "007 in 2007", then go for it.
Don't you think the wait, for sub-par movies, was what was killing (artistically) the franchise ???
The first Connery were once a year, and they became a phenomenon. When they started to pace, they become less exciting.
#50
Posted 04 May 2006 - 09:22 AM
After the unessesary four year break they owe it to us the get the next film out as soon as possible.
I used to agree with that sentiment, however, I don't think that EON, MGM or SONY owe us fans anything. If anything we should be thankfull that they are still producing Bond films that we can go and enjoy after 40+ years.
I think that the prospect of a new film in 2-007 is an exciting one, and would love to see it happen, but I think I'll wait until an official announcment.
However, I don't getting B22 off the ground as an impossible task, because IMO, if our 2 writers can't get a script in shape in 12 months, then they shouldn't be writing it in the first place, and pre-production, casting etc would logically begin in sep/oct.
#51
Posted 04 May 2006 - 09:25 AM
#52
Posted 04 May 2006 - 09:28 AM
Still, perhaps there is something to be said for Eon speeding up a little. DAD has proved to me that a three year wait does not necessarily do anything to improve script or overall performance. Perhaps maintaining a more constant 'flow' will inspire the makers and improve the films. The Harry Potter-franchise is probably the best contemporary example of such an approach; but although they're no quickies, they have always felt a tad underdeveloped to me.
Ah well. I'm trying to be so balanced here, I guess I just don't know.
#53
Posted 04 May 2006 - 10:51 AM
#54
Posted 04 May 2006 - 11:04 AM
But we do know that the script has been in the works since mid last year, the story will follow on from CR (an argument to follow closely, even if flimsy), now we have unsourced quotes in a UK paper (better than a dodgy website... but nevertheless not much), Activision's contract to publish Bond games will start in Sept 2007 (and will start with B22 tie in game... - more solid here) and next year is 2007.
I'd give it a reasonable probability of happening - I'd put money on it at 3-1. I'm sure we'll know for sure towards the end of the year.
#55
Posted 04 May 2006 - 11:12 AM
I daresay the next film is being considered and there may even be a script, but stating this will ensure a reason for Joe Public to go see this movie.
But I truly doubt there will be a film 2007 as there will have to be almost a whole duplicate team for the preparation elements - and I daresay there would already have been murmerings to this effect that we would have heard of by now.
#56
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:19 PM
Besides, I think it's would be impossible to get Bond 22 out in 2007.
"The word 'impossible', Mr. Zencat, is only found in the dictionary...of fools."
Well hell, Pierce Brosnan was fired without so much as a press release.
#57
Posted 04 May 2006 - 02:50 PM
Of course, all the conference blurb could be marketing stance to state absolute confidence in the success of this movie.
I daresay the next film is being considered and there may even be a script, but stating this will ensure a reason for Joe Public to go see this movie.
But I truly doubt there will be a film 2007 as there will have to be almost a whole duplicate team for the preparation elements - and I daresay there would already have been murmerings to this effect that we would have heard of by now.
Well, would we have heard of it? Don
#58
Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:51 PM
This morning they showed the CASINO ROYALE trailer on Sky News, and then Neil Sean said that his "source" at the production had confirmed that the filming would be consecutive, and that indeed, some scenes for BOND 22 had already been filmed. I don't believe a word of it, but interesting nonetheless!
#59
Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:57 PM
Suddenly this is seeming less impossible to me. Or maybe I just want to believe it.
#60
Posted 04 May 2006 - 04:01 PM
I just put this in the Activison thread, but I'll put it here as well. If it's true that Bond 22 is going to be Activison's first game (from Variety and on CBn's main page), then this leads some credibility to the Bond 22 in 2007 rumor. I mean, with a seven year deal, I don't think Activison will wait for 2008 or 2009 to release their first game, do you?
Suddenly this is seeming less impossible to me. Or maybe I just want to believe it.
It's just one more piece of what appears to be mounting evidence that a Bond 22 movie is planned for 2007. I think the biggest argument is the fact that they will have a script in place, if not already there, then by this summer.
On casting. We all know that EON did not start casting CASINO ROYALE until they had Craig in place in October. So, it appears perfectly plausible to have the cast in place for Bond 22 by January 2007.