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[Frostyak]

If the reports are accurate, and they have already begun discussions of the next film, what do you think the chances are of a 'Bond Will Be Back ...' statement at the end of the film?

- Chris

[Bryce (003)]

I'm certain we'll get a "James Bond will return" at the end, but it'd be cool if they had title so we could have a tease like the good old days.

So, maybe, just maybe we'll get the "The End of Casino Royale, but James Bond will return in...."

If work on Bond 22 has already begun as has been stated, they might very well have a title in place.

[Santa]

I would love it if they did. It's such a small thing but for me it really adds something.

[zencat]

A title would be great! I remember when that was a part of the Bond movie going experience -- as much a part as the opening gunbarrel. You knew if you stayed through the end credits you'd learn the title of the next film. I really miss that.

[Leon]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

[Frostyak]

A title would be great! I remember when that was a part of the Bond movie going experience -- as much a part as the opening gunbarrel. You knew if you stayed through the end credits you'd learn the title of the next film. I really miss that.

I think it is something missed from film today. Now granted, not every movie has a sequel. But I think there is something in knowing that this one movie you just saw is part of a much bigger experience. And there is no other franchise that is as big an experience as Bond; at least, it should be.

- Chris

Edited by Frostyak, 03 May 2006 - 04:56 PM.

[Loomis]

Well, I think that so much has been revealed about CASINO ROYALE that there are bound to be at least a couple of last-minute "surprises" in the final print. Not sure what they'll be, but I reckon they'll be there. Maybe:

A short scene right at the end of the closing credits (a la LETHAL WEAPON 3), when all but the most unbelievably, pathetically obsessive of Bond geeks (i.e. me and.... you ) have left the cinema and are already beginning to forget CR and return to normal life, in which Bond, at a party, starts chatting up a woman who reveals her name to be Moneypenny.

Or:

JAMES BOND WILL RETURN IN THE PROPERTY OF A LADY.

Or:

A montage of bloopers, CANNONBALL RUN-style, with Craig fluffing his lines, Dench bumping into scenery, etc.

Or....

Well, any ideas?

[zencat]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

The end of The Spy Who Loved Me said Bond would return in For Your Eyes Only. And Goldfinger originally said Bond would return in On Her Majesty’s Secret Service. Maybe Thunderball did as well.

Also, the end of Octopussy showed the original full AVAK title "From A View To A Kill."

[Santa]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

[zencat]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

[DLibrasnow]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first..

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

The STAR WARS influence on the Bond series has been under a revisionist review in the last few years that has argued (not that I agree) that the influence of the mega-blo0ckbuster has been over-stated and there were other factors at work. This includes the space shuttles which were supposed to be launched around the time of Moonraker's release but in fact were not launched until 1981. Wilson has been quoted as saying that NASA really let them down with that delay.

Back to the subject of the thread (so Brett doesn't tag this post as spamming), I also rteally miss the tagline at the end of the movie. It was announced at the Casino Royale press conference that work was underway on Bond 22 (or is it Bond 2.2) so I am hopeful. But we should also remember that camera's had already started rolling on Die Another Day before they decided on a title.

[Trident]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

Actually in Germany we had a rather strange title for MR that fitted to the "FYEO" mention in TSWLM. It was "MOONRAKER-STRENG GEHEIM" that meant in English "MOONRAKER-FOR YOUR EYES ONLY". Weird, isn't it?

[Bon-san]

A title would be great! I remember when that was a part of the Bond movie going experience -- as much a part as the opening gunbarrel. You knew if you stayed through the end credits you'd learn the title of the next film. I really miss that.

As do I. I remember watching the end scroll of FYEO with anxious curiosity. Would they really use 'Octopussy' as a title? I was proud of Eon when I saw they were going for it.

[zencat]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

Actually in Germany we had a rather strange title for MR that fitted to the "FYEO" mention in TSWLM. It was "MOONRAKER-STRENG GEHEIM" that meant in English "MOONRAKER-FOR YOUR EYES ONLY". Weird, isn't it?

Really? Now that's interesting.

Another article I uncovered from 1976 said Cubby planned to make Moonraker after Spy and then FYEO a year later. Yep, there's the correct order a year before Star Wars came out, so make of that what you will. Seems he kept shuffling the order.

But back on topic...

I remember the disappointment I felt when the end of A View To A Kill only said "James Bond Will Return." But I still stay through the credits just to see that.

Trouble is, if there is a title for Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale, you know that title will leak way in advance. I think the days of discovering anything in the theater are long gone.

[medrecess]

Why do you think they started work on the next so early...They should have a name by November .If not at least the next film will release within 2 years of CR ,Mostly around 2008.

[Leon]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

And that's why it annoys me when people glorify Cubby too much.

[Qwerty]

I'd love to see the title of Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale. We already know that some work has begun on it, so I'd say the chances are much better than we've had for recent Bond films.

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

[stromberg]

There's a good chance of that.

Which movie was it where they got it wrong? They said James Bond will return in X" but it was a different film which followed?

TSWLM. They put FYEO as that was the next one they had planned to do, however they then decided, mostly because of Star Wars, that they needed to get in on the space thing, so they ended up doing Moonraker first and TSWLM later.

Actually, I found some articles about the "space thing" (i.e., using the space shuttle in the next Bond film) and they were still calling this space-themed Bond movie For Your Eyes Only. I guess as some point in the development process they discovered it was a perfect time to use the title Moonraker and call their shuttles Moonrakers.

Actually in Germany we had a rather strange title for MR that fitted to the "FYEO" mention in TSWLM. It was "MOONRAKER-STRENG GEHEIM" that meant in English "MOONRAKER-FOR YOUR EYES ONLY". Weird, isn't it?

Really? Now that's interesting.

Another article I uncovered from 1976 said Cubby planned to make Moonraker after Spy and then FYEO a year later. Yep, there's the correct order a year before Star Wars came out, so make of that what you will. Seems he kept shuffling the order.

But back on topic...

I remember the disappointment I felt when the end of A View To A Kill only said "James Bond Will Return." But I still stay through the credits just to see that.

Trouble is, if there is a title for Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale, you know that title will leak way in advance. I think the days of discovering anything in the theater are long gone.

Actually, "Streng Geheim" means "Top Secret". But this was the first time we had such an "add-on" to a Bond movie title (except maybe for DN, which is named "James Bond chases Dr. No" in German). The simple title "Moonraker" wouldn't have worked (even English speaking people don't get the meaning). A literal translation of "For Your Eyes Only" doesn't exist in German, so the movie was called "On A Deadly Mission".

But indeed, enough off topic posting (which this is, as opposed to "needless beating of a dead horse after going off topic with a cheap shot, which was so cheap that it got deleted", which is indeed considered spamming).

I'll surely wait until the credits rolled off to see if they announce the new title - even on the third, forth and fifth viewing (just in case, you never know )

[dinovelvet]

I'd love to see the title of Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale. We already know that some work has begun on it, so I'd say the chances are much better than we've had for recent Bond films.

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

I'm rooting for "SHATTERHAND" myself

[Tanger]

I thought the title had already been announced.

Isn't Bond 22 called "Never Say Never"?

[Mister Asterix]

I thought the title had already been announced.

Isn't Bond 22 called "Never Say Never"?

[mra]Again?


With the Bond 22 script already started I think we

[zencat]

I'd love to see the title of Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale. We already know that some work has begun on it, so I'd say the chances are much better than we've had for recent Bond films.

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

I'm rooting for "SHATTERHAND" myself

RISICO, baby. It's gotta be RISICO.

[DLibrasnow]

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

I'm in agreement with you Devin, although I also think that Risico is a good one (even if nobody understands it)

[zencat]

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

I'm in agreement with you Devin, although I also think that Risico is a good one (even if nobody understands it)

I really think its inclusion in Octopussy puts “The Property Of A Lady” out of the running. And, yeah, I know people claim this was the title of Dalton's third film, but show me a treatment or script with this title (and not a Starlog article) and I'll believe it.

[Tanger]

I thought the title had already been announced.

Isn't Bond 22 called "Never Say Never"?

Again?

I was joking you realise (a reference to the thread where some poor fellow believed it to be the title based on a comment Barbara Brocolli had made).

I think it probably won't be revealed in the end credits. But then again, doesn't Eon supposedly have a list of titles? Perhaps there's one on there that might work with the story.

[Red Barchetta]

For me, the ending title "James Bond Will Return In..." was always like closing the final cover on a book- it gives me a chance to finish, and look forward to the next one!

[JimmyBond]

Having them reveal the title of an original story is interesting. I mean in the past when you saw "Will return in Thunderball" you could go read the novel and go: "Hey, that will make a good film." It's different this time, we'll see hte title and go "Hmm, wonder what that could be in reference too?"

This will be exciting

[Mister Asterix]

Having them reveal the title of an original story is interesting. I mean in the past when you saw "Will return in Thunderball" you could go read the novel and go: "Hey, that will make a good film." It's different this time, we'll see hte title and go "Hmm, wonder what that could be in reference too?"

This will be exciting

Great point, JimmyB. If we get something like ‘James Bond Will Return in Maligator’, we’ll be going crazy trying to figure it out. In a good way.

[JimmyBond]

Maligator eh? So James Bond is going to battle a half man half aligator in the bayous of Lousiana? I'm game

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

I'd love to see the title of Bond 22 at the end of Casino Royale. We already know that some work has begun on it, so I'd say the chances are much better than we've had for recent Bond films.

Go with “The Property Of A Lady”. A great Fleming title just waiting to be used.

I'm rooting for "SHATTERHAND" myself

RISICO, baby. It's gotta be RISICO.