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[FLEMINGFAN]

1 - NEVER is not a Bond film, unless you consider the 1967 CASINO one, as well.

Just a second Flemingfan. How is NSNA not a Bond film? It has the same characters, uses much of the Fleming story, and uses the original Bond, Sean Connery on top of it all! And yes, even Casino Royale (1967) is a Bond film too, albeit an oppresively bad film, but a Bond film nonetheless. Yes, I'm one of the biggest critics of the treatment of the gunbarrel in the upcoming Casino Royale, but agreed, it still is a Bond film. But so are aforementioned unofficial Bond films as well. And I think this topic of what constitutes a Bond film has been discussed too many times already!

As I stated, I can only consider NEVER a Bondfilm if CASINO 67 is thrown in there (Though I think CASINO 67 was more entertaining and interesting in 1967 than NEVER was in 1983). CASINO CBS and MOONRAKER BBC really should be added to the mix, as well, just from a historical sense.

I do think we agree on that issue.

"But it's late...and I'm tired...and there's so much left to do."

[Mr Teddy Bear]

I can't believe someone called 'FLEMMINGFAN' could be so ignorant as to what actually constitutes a Bond film.

[FLEMINGFAN]

I can't believe someone called 'FLEMMINGFAN' could be so ignorant as to what actually constitutes a Bond film.

Thank you very much, though I do believe that there is only one "M" in Fleming (But, then, I am a bit new to all this stuff, so I may be wrong).

[stamper]

I can't believe there is already 6 pages in this thread arguing if the gunbarrel makes a bond movie or not... it's part of the package, and as long as it is in there, either at the start, the middle or the end, does not make a difference.

After 45 years, the filmmakers should be allowed to play around with things a little more efficiently than having bond in a crocodile or clown suit... which in my opinions, makes Octopussy a lesser Bond movie, than moving the gunbarrel from the beginning to the opening credits... (that's dot, dot, dot hahaha)

[A Kristatos]

I can't believe there is already 6 pages in this thread arguing if the gunbarrel makes a bond movie or not... it's part of the package, and as long as it is in there, either at the start, the middle or the end, does not make a difference.

After 45 years, the filmmakers should be allowed to play around with things a little more efficiently than having bond in a crocodile or clown suit... which in my opinions, makes Octopussy a lesser Bond movie, than moving the gunbarrel from the beginning to the opening credits... (that's dot, dot, dot hahaha)

Agreed! Hopefully we'll never have to be "treated" to seeing Bond in a clown costume ever again! Especially considering he put the whole costume and makeup on (perfectly, no less) in less than two minutes (see the "Red Digital Readout" before and after)!