French Television Reveals 'Casino Royale' Trailer
#331
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:11 AM
#332
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:14 AM
#333
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:28 AM
AWSOME trailer.... well put together.... even the gunbarrel works.... and love the music.
#334
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:31 AM
#335
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:33 AM
I know hand-to-hand sequences weren't invented by the Bourne movies, but to me the style is similar, the quickness. That one shot in the trailer where Bond takes out two guards at once instantly reminded me of The Bourne Identity.God Dammit that looks sooooooooo good! The action looks terrific!!!
I don't see any similarities to the bourn movies at all. Hand to hand combat sequences were not invented by the bourn movies! This is going to be the best bond yet!!!! All the bond elements are present and looks amazing!!!!
And I think this is a good thing, to be honest. I'm not one of those fans that subscribes to a rivalry between the series, but for me, Bourne redefined this genre and suddenly made Bond seem old hat (and I know some people on these forums agree). So it's nice to see that with this new one, they're updating the style for a new generation. It's not an issue of one copying the other, but rather an emulation for the good of the genre.
#336
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:38 AM
Know what you mean about the gunbarrel. When I read a description, I was ready to be upset, but it worked in it's own way.oh my lord...... while I don't think this is Fleming's Bond..... it IS a least Benson and Gardner's Bond.... which is damn good enough for me!!!
AWSOME trailer.... well put together.... even the gunbarrel works.... and love the music.
#337
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:46 AM
#338
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:56 AM
#339
Posted 01 May 2006 - 01:58 AM
I just watched the French version. Have to say I am NOT impressed. It does NOT look like a James Bond movie. I liked the poster, but this trailer looks like it's for a TRANSPORTER film or something. I don't think CR will be a hit in the USA and Craig won't be accepted as Bond. He doesn't look at all like Bond in the trailer.
honestly.... I thought the same thing watching the first half of the trailer.... the whole B&W thing.... the grit..... it seemed like some sort of well.... you said it... other kind of action movie. Then the second half.... that's Bond.... you could see the style, the suavenesss, the girls, the guns, the cars... did I mention the STYLE? ..
....and then when you put both together, you see that the whole damn thing works like a Bond trailer... it's just NOT what you were obviously expecting... but it IS Bond.
I suppose one could say the Bond films have the RIGHT to make something like this... since this is the true character anyway.... it's the others that are spinoffs... Bond's just claiming what's rightfully his.
Edited by deth, 01 May 2006 - 01:59 AM.
#340
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:00 AM
#341
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:08 AM
I just watched the French version. Have to say I am NOT impressed. It does NOT look like a James Bond movie. I liked the poster, but this trailer looks like it's for a TRANSPORTER film or something. I don't think CR will be a hit in the USA and Craig won't be accepted as Bond. He doesn't look at all like Bond in the trailer.
Funny you should say that. Although I found The Transporter movies to be boring suckfests, I think Jason Statham would be a pretty good Bond candidate. In this trailer, Craig has many of the same characteristics that Statham could have brought to the character: cold ruthlessness and professionalism.
It's Bond, just a different Bond that people haven't seen in quite a few years.
I didn't much care for the final shot,either but I really don't think that that would be part of the finished film. I don't like the hair in that. Not the color, just the style. I hope he grows it out a bit for the casino sequences.
Other than that, everything looks tip-top.
#342
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:20 AM
I just watched the French version. Have to say I am NOT impressed. It does NOT look like a James Bond movie. I liked the poster, but this trailer looks like it's for a TRANSPORTER film or something. I don't think CR will be a hit in the USA and Craig won't be accepted as Bond. He doesn't look at all like Bond in the trailer.
Funny you should say that. Although I found The Transporter movies to be boring suckfests, I think Jason Statham would be a pretty good Bond candidate. In this trailer, Craig has many of the same characteristics that Statham could have brought to the character: cold ruthlessness and professionalism.
It's Bond, just a different Bond that people haven't seen in quite a few years.
My own take on this is that the film is going to be maybe a good Bond-like action film. But that's it. It won't be a Bond film, not unlike Licence to Kill. This trailer reminded of Licence to Kill. Good, but not really Bond. I don't think it will be a hit. It won't be a total bomb but it will be Craig's first and only turn at the role.
I didn't much care for the final shot,either but I really don't think that that would be part of the finished film. I don't like the hair in that. Not the color, just the style. I hope he grows it out a bit for the casino sequences.
Other than that, everything looks tip-top.
#343
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:35 AM
Craig's deadly version of Bond may put off some audiences. I am...a little uneasy myself.
#344
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:39 AM
M: It is more [something, I'm guessing this is about his 'bulldozer tactics and how he needs to learn discretion]. Regardless of [what you think?] [Something more about his methods]
Bond: You mean I should act more like a monk?
M: I mean you need to be more mature, more professional to deserve this promotion.
Bond: I was under the impression that 00's did anything and everything in their power to get their job done.
Sounds like a pretty intense dialogue between Craig and Dench. If anyone of you other Francophones out there could maybe verify or even be more accurate in the translations then I then that would be awesome as you can see the first few lines were a tad sketchy.
Again, an excellent trailer. I can't wait to see the English version.
Yeah, this ain't your Daddy's 007!I think very few of the modern audiences still consider the ruthless Fleming Bond as "their" Bond. Bond is usually associated (for better or worse) with the sophisticated suave portrayals by Roger Moore and Pierce Bronson.
Craig's deadly version of Bond may put off some audiences. I am...a little uneasy myself.
Or if you want to look at it from a Yogi Bear perspective: He's deadlier than your average Bond. Eh, Boo-Boo?
#345
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:44 AM
Edited by EyesOnly, 01 May 2006 - 02:45 AM.
#346
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:44 AM
#347
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:45 AM
#348
Posted 01 May 2006 - 02:46 AM
Yeah. Although I don't mind myself, I showed the trailer to two semi-Bond fan friends of mine and they liked it, but they both said "This doesn't look like James Bond." I think the "popular" image of Bond is still deeply etched in the mindset of conventional audiences, to be honest.I think very few of the modern audiences still consider the ruthless Fleming Bond as "their" Bond. Bond is usually associated (for better or worse) with the sophisticated suave portrayals by Roger Moore and Pierce Bronson.
Craig's deadly version of Bond may put off some audiences. I am...a little uneasy myself.
#349
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:00 AM
Yeah. Although I don't mind myself, I showed the trailer to two semi-Bond fan friends of mine and they liked it, but they both said "This doesn't look like James Bond." I think the "popular" image of Bond is still deeply etched in the mindset of conventional audiences, to be honest.
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I think its important to note that the Bond series is not the Bourne series, people (children included) come to watch Bond perform ridiculously cool stunts with beautiful woman in a suave fashion. They are not entirely looking for realism here. That's the charm of the Bond series. It's clean escapist fun.
Daniel Craig is unfortunately not handsome (sorry, just my opinion)and the entire "reboot" concept would confuse many viewers. Remember...many of todays fan's first Bond film was "Goldeneye" in which Judi Dench played Bond's newboss. How are they going to react when they see the timeline readjusted here? How will the parents explain to their children to this little contradiction? (kids are a lot more aware than many people give them credit for)
#350
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:05 AM
Regards.
#351
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:15 AM
#352
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:20 AM
Well, first, to me Judi Dench being there isn't a big deal. And this is coming from a Star Trek fan, so I usually am a huge stickler for continuity. But I really don't think it will matter to the masses. The Flemingesque fans will be bothered by anything and everything (yet they still show up...I wonder why?). I was 11 when I saw GoldenEye, and I didn't care about Judi Dench to tell you the truth. As long as the kids understand that different actors play Bond, it's fine. The readjustment should be minimal.I think its important to note that the Bond series is not the Bourne series, people (children included) come to watch Bond perform ridiculously cool stunts with beautiful woman in a suave fashion. They are not entirely looking for realism here. That's the charm of the Bond series. It's clean escapist fun.
Daniel Craig is unfortunately not handsome (sorry, just my opinion)and the entire "reboot" concept would confuse many viewers. Remember...many of todays fan's first Bond film was "Goldeneye" in which Judi Dench played Bond's newboss. How are they going to react when they see the timeline readjusted here? How will the parents explain to their children to this little contradiction? (kids are a lot more aware than many people give them credit for)
Second, I disagree that Bond and Bourne shouldn't be fused, especially now. I mean, how would you have viewed GoldenEye if it had been slapstick like some of Moore's 70's films? Bond was redone because it needed to move with the times. And yes, while there should always be a few things that should remain unequivocally "Bondian," but like I said earlier upthread, when I saw the Bourne Identity, it made Bond look, to me, like old hat stuff. It was suddenly out of style. Sure I still loved Bond, but I thought Bourne was oh so cool and I wished Bond would emulate that style. Well, it seems that they have, and I'm all for it, let me tell you! It looks great!
That's not a popular viewpoint I know, but that's how I feel.
#353
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:32 AM
Sorry, my interpretation skills are terrible! I thought I heard 'vie' and 'limitee' in that last line but I pushed them aside thinking, "That can't be what he's meaning."i m sorry but your translation is a bit wrong, especially for the last part, Bond says: "i ve heard that 00 agents have a rather limited lifetime"
something else almost nobody noticed: this is not a real dialogue between M and Bond, it is a montage, i am not sure you'll hear those sentence in the same order or even in the same scene in the movie
Boy, do I look like a tool...
Edited by Monsieur B, 01 May 2006 - 03:52 AM.
#354
Posted 01 May 2006 - 03:44 AM
Well, first, to me Judi Dench being there isn't a big deal. And this is coming from a Star Trek fan, so I usually am a huge stickler for continuity. But I really don't think it will matter to the masses. The Flemingesque fans will be bothered by anything and everything (yet they still show up...I wonder why?). I was 11 when I saw GoldenEye, and I didn't care about Judi Dench to tell you the truth. As long as the kids understand that different actors play Bond, it's fine. The readjustment should be minimal.
I think its important to note that the Bond series is not the Bourne series, people (children included) come to watch Bond perform ridiculously cool stunts with beautiful woman in a suave fashion. They are not entirely looking for realism here. That's the charm of the Bond series. It's clean escapist fun.
Daniel Craig is unfortunately not handsome (sorry, just my opinion)and the entire "reboot" concept would confuse many viewers. Remember...many of todays fan's first Bond film was "Goldeneye" in which Judi Dench played Bond's newboss. How are they going to react when they see the timeline readjusted here? How will the parents explain to their children to this little contradiction? (kids are a lot more aware than many people give them credit for)
Second, I disagree that Bond and Bourne shouldn't be fused, especially now. I mean, how would you have viewed GoldenEye if it had been slapstick like some of Moore's 70's films? Bond was redone because it needed to move with the times. And yes, while there should always be a few things that should remain unequivocally "Bondian," but like I said earlier upthread, when I saw the Bourne Identity, it made Bond look, to me, like old hat stuff. It was suddenly out of style. Sure I still loved Bond, but I thought Bourne was oh so cool and I wished Bond would emulate that style. Well, it seems that they have, and I'm all for it, let me tell you! It looks great!
That's not a popular viewpoint I know, but that's how I feel.
The bottom line isn't the movie itself, but really how Craig looks in the role in the trailer. He looks bad. Sorry, he does. We have to accept it. Clive Owen in the role, would've bought it. Hard not to think they didn't write this movie for Clive, and got turned down. Once he said no, they should have waited and made a Brosnan Bond as 21, CR as 22. They didn't. Craig will not be accepted and CR is going to be a LTK-level dud, looking at this trailer.
#355
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:14 AM
Well, first, to me Judi Dench being there isn't a big deal. And this is coming from a Star Trek fan, so I usually am a huge stickler for continuity. But I really don't think it will matter to the masses. The Flemingesque fans will be bothered by anything and everything (yet they still show up...I wonder why?). I was 11 when I saw GoldenEye, and I didn't care about Judi Dench to tell you the truth. As long as the kids understand that different actors play Bond, it's fine. The readjustment should be minimal.
I think its important to note that the Bond series is not the Bourne series, people (children included) come to watch Bond perform ridiculously cool stunts with beautiful woman in a suave fashion. They are not entirely looking for realism here. That's the charm of the Bond series. It's clean escapist fun.
Daniel Craig is unfortunately not handsome (sorry, just my opinion)and the entire "reboot" concept would confuse many viewers. Remember...many of todays fan's first Bond film was "Goldeneye" in which Judi Dench played Bond's newboss. How are they going to react when they see the timeline readjusted here? How will the parents explain to their children to this little contradiction? (kids are a lot more aware than many people give them credit for)
Second, I disagree that Bond and Bourne shouldn't be fused, especially now. I mean, how would you have viewed GoldenEye if it had been slapstick like some of Moore's 70's films? Bond was redone because it needed to move with the times. And yes, while there should always be a few things that should remain unequivocally "Bondian," but like I said earlier upthread, when I saw the Bourne Identity, it made Bond look, to me, like old hat stuff. It was suddenly out of style. Sure I still loved Bond, but I thought Bourne was oh so cool and I wished Bond would emulate that style. Well, it seems that they have, and I'm all for it, let me tell you! It looks great!
That's not a popular viewpoint I know, but that's how I feel.
The bottom line isn't the movie itself, but really how Craig looks in the role in the trailer. He looks bad. Sorry, he does. We have to accept it. Clive Owen in the role, would've bought it. Hard not to think they didn't write this movie for Clive, and got turned down. Once he said no, they should have waited and made a Brosnan Bond as 21, CR as 22. They didn't. Craig will not be accepted and CR is going to be a LTK-level dud, looking at this trailer.
as much as i love clive owen and wanted him to be james bond i could not see him doing better than daniel craig in this film from what i have seen so far and am very happy with the choices they have made.
#356
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:15 AM
The bottom line isn't the movie itself, but really how Craig looks in the role in the trailer. He looks bad. Sorry, he does. We have to accept it. Clive Owen in the role, would've bought it. Hard not to think they didn't write this movie for Clive, and got turned down. Once he said no, they should have waited and made a Brosnan Bond as 21, CR as 22. They didn't. Craig will not be accepted and CR is going to be a LTK-level dud, looking at this trailer.
Please don't say 'we'. The feedback from the teaser alone (not just from this board) is overwhelmingly positive from what I've seen. And, for the record, 'I' thought he looked fantastic. 'I' think you need to accept that.
The statement about this script being written for Clive is just ignorant. Sorry, to throw that out there, but it's the truth. I definitely could see Craig for this script.
#357
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:20 AM
Love it.
Gunbarrel is my fav part. Craig's pose is perfect.
The music sounds a lot like the Bond theme mix from Licence To Kill to me.
Final shot is obviously not from the movie but made for the trailer.
Hope to see a high-res English version soon.
#358
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:22 AM
The bottom line isn't the movie itself, but really how Craig looks in the role in the trailer. He looks bad. Sorry, he does. We have to accept it. Clive Owen in the role, would've bought it. Hard not to think they didn't write this movie for Clive, and got turned down. Once he said no, they should have waited and made a Brosnan Bond as 21, CR as 22. They didn't. Craig will not be accepted and CR is going to be a LTK-level dud, looking at this trailer.
Please don't say 'we'. The feedback from the teaser alone (not just from this board) is overwhelmingly positive from what I've seen. And, for the record, 'I' thought he looked fantastic. 'I' think you need to accept that.
The statement about this script being written for Clive is just ignorant. Sorry, to throw that out there, but it's the truth. I definitely could see Craig for this script.
Well said, K1Bond007.
I think that Craig looks fantastic in the trailer, much better in motion than he looks in still photographs from the film.
#359
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:32 AM
#360
Posted 01 May 2006 - 04:42 AM