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[Diabolik]

Maybe she was talking about how he mixes all of his 007 kissing scenes with biting. I had a girlfriend that had that tendency and it wasn't very fun.

The first time old Broz did it was interesting, but in almost every scene? I don't see Bond a "biter"? Marv Albert maybe...

[Thom Paine]

That's too bad that Rosamund is being snooty about her Bond Girl past. I'll bet no one comes up to her and says, 'Hey, are you the girl from Doom?'. She should be grateful there is such a fan following for the Bond movies.

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[Bon-san]

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I think she

[Bon-san]

That's too bad that Rosamund is being snooty about her Bond Girl past. I'll bet no one comes up to her and says, 'Hey, are you the girl from Doom?'. She should be grateful there is such a fan following for the Bond movies.

-=/>Thom

What's too bad is that this article is being taken seriously at all. They've rather obviously "made up" the quote in the headline, and the rest is just recycled garbage from some other tabloid BS.

[Stephen Spotswood]

Maybe Pierce has bad breath.

I recall that Tony Curtis was once to supposed to have said about Marilyn Monroe (with whom he appeared in "Some Like It Hot"), that kissing her was like kissing Hitler. Of course he may have just been facetious, or he resented that she was prettier than he was. Actually that could be Pike's beef against Pierce. I suspect a kissing scene could go for hours, while they try to film the perfect shot, and it's hard to fake passion that long.

[Skudor]

Maybe Pierce has bad breath.

I recall that Tony Curtis was once to supposed to have said about Marilyn Monroe (with whom he appeared in "Some Like It Hot"), that kissing her was like kissing Hitler. Of course he may have just been facetious, or he resented that she was prettier than he was. Actually that could be Pike's beef against Pierce. I suspect a kissing scene could go for hours, while they try to film the perfect shot, and it's hard to fake passion that long.

I wonder how Tony knew what kissing Hitler was like.

[Mister Asterix]

I wonder how Tony knew what kissing Hitler was like.

I’d imagine the moustache would tickle.

[Santa]

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I wonder how Tony knew what kissing Hitler was like.
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[DLibrasnow]

What's too bad is that this article is being taken seriously at all. They've rather obviously "made up" the quote in the headline,

Thats a serious accusation....where is your evidence? It's one thing to say someone took a quote out of context, but quite another to accuse a publication and/or reporter of making up a quote.

The fact that 'Brosnan was no kisser' is inside quotation marks indicates that she did in fact make that quote. To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication (and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law)

[Seannery]

I agree with those who think this a phony story--manipulated by a writer IMO.

[Genrewriter]

Well, on the bright side it's not about Daniel Craig.

[Skudor]

What's too bad is that this article is being taken seriously at all. They've rather obviously "made up" the quote in the headline,

Thats a serious accusation....where is your evidence? It's one thing to say someone took a quote out of context, but quite another to accuse a publication and/or reporter of making up a quote.

The fact that 'Brosnan was no kisser' is inside quotation marks indicates that she did in fact make that quote. To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication (and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law)

Although I agree that there is a difference between a reporter making up a quote and quoting out of context I personally wouldn't rate the former as much worse than the latter. They are both despicable.

[DLibrasnow]

Although I agree that there is a difference between a reporter making up a quote and quoting out of context I personally wouldn't rate the former as much worse than the latter. They are both despicable.

I agree that both are examples of bad journalism. But, the two are treated differently by the courts.

If a reporter writes an article in which a quote was taken out of context, that can usually be corrected during the editing phase, but if the quote is made up entirely by the reporter this cannot. As an editor you have to trust that your reporter has a quote accurate.

If a reporter makes up a quote it is also basis for termination of employment, which is why accusing someone of making up a quote without evidence is a libel-ridden minefield.

[Bon-san]

What's too bad is that this article is being taken seriously at all. They've rather obviously "made up" the quote in the headline,

Thats a serious accusation....where is your evidence? It's one thing to say someone took a quote out of context, but quite another to accuse a publication and/or reporter of making up a quote.

The fact that 'Brosnan was no kisser' is inside quotation marks indicates that she did in fact make that quote. To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication (and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law)

'To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication'

Yes, you've got it.

'and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law'

That's not really it, is it? 'Questioning someone's professional reputation'? I realize you are an undisputed expert on libel, and I accept your warnings in the spirit in which they are made. But I'll stand by my statements.

[DLibrasnow]

'To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication'

Yes, you've got it.

'and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law'

That's not really it, is it? 'Questioning someone's professional reputation'? I realize you are an undisputed expert on libel, and I accept your warnings in the spirit in which they are made. But I'll stand by my statements.

Yes, to question someones professional reputation is libelous.
If a reporter makes up a quote, that can be used as basis for termination of employment.
If a reporter is terminated and feels that he was wrongfully accused of making up a quote he can seek compensation in the courts for his lost wages claiming he was libeled and that this led to his termination.
Anyway I doubt the reporter in question here is even aware of CBn's existence or if he is, cares not what is said on here.

[doublenoughtspy]

What's too bad is that this article is being taken seriously at all. They've rather obviously "made up" the quote in the headline,

Thats a serious accusation....where is your evidence? It's one thing to say someone took a quote out of context, but quite another to accuse a publication and/or reporter of making up a quote.

The fact that 'Brosnan was no kisser' is inside quotation marks indicates that she did in fact make that quote. To say that she did not calls into question the reputatioon of the reporter and/or publication (and questioning someone's professional reputation without evidence is in fact the very basis of libel law)

But Darren, take a look at the story.

The quote is nowhere to be found.

It's idiotic to put a quote in a headline and then not use it, if it was indeed said.

I seriously doubt Pike would say Brosnan couldn't kiss.

She is saying that it was different - her scene with Brosnan was more forceful, less sensual.

Having worked in the newspaper business just as you do - a lot of people don't realize that reporters don't usually write the headlines - copy editors do.

And I think this is the case with this story - someone else created the headline and she never said "Brosnan was no kisser."

[DLibrasnow]

Having worked in the newspaper business just as you do - a lot of people don't realize that reporters don't usually write the headlines - copy editors do.

True....but the difference is that the headline is:

Pike: 'Brosnan was no kisser'

Which indicates that it was a quote. If it was not a quote the editor would have to write it as:

Pike: Brosnan was no kisser

[Hawkeye]

The Broz kissing thing is a tad uncalled for if true, but what pulls my chain about Pike is her moaning about the recognition she gets from people on the street because of being a bond girl. You can't have your cake and eat it.

[Seannery]

It could be passed off as a mistake(conveniently) from the person who wrote the headline. DNS makes a good point that it would have been in the body of the text if it was valid.

[Jim]

I do enjoy these little chats.

[Seannery]

I do enjoy these little chats.

I blame it all on Daniel Craig.

[mccartney007]

I'm glad that worthless article about Brosnan's ability to kiss has resulted in another edition of Libel Law 101.

[Scottlee]

No matter how much the reporter may or may not have exaggerated the article, it still sounds like Pike has some snootiness regarding the whole Bond girl thing. Tis' a shame, because I think she is one of the sexiest Bond girls there has ever been. She had one of the better roles in DAD (Minus her rubbish death at the end).

The tube-train thing interested me more than the kissing claim. Pike must be intelligent enough to have known the attention she would forever get from the public after playing a Bond girl. I can't stand it when celebrities pick up seven figure sums for doing not much at all (in the context of hours worked compared to the general public), and then whinge about press intrusion, or fanboy intrusion. Living under the microscope is the inevitable flip-side to celebrity fame and riches. Accept it, or don't step on the filmsets.

[Roebuck]

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[quote name='Roebuck' post='543123' date='12 April 2006 - 07:08']
I think she

[Bon-san]

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[quote name='Bon-san' post='543175' date='12 April 2006 - 15:15']
[quote name='Roebuck' post='543123' date='12 April 2006 - 07:08']
I think she

[Roebuck]

Did she leave you hanging at the altar or something?

Trust me - Rosamund Pike can't hold a candle to the girl I took to the alter.

[dinovelvet]

What's your definition of 'major acting success'? She was paid 7 figures for DOOM. How many actresses in the history of the world have received such a paycheck? She's received critical acclaim for her theatre work, appeared in PRIDE AND PREJUDICE (a critical and financial success), and had a major role in a James Bond movie.

There are certainly actresses who have been more "successful". But how many? Far, far less than one percent of all working actresses.

Doesn't change the fact that she's not a particularly good actress (seriously, watch her performances) and will probably go back to being a non-entity sometime in the next five years. She's already a has-been, outstripped by upcoming young Brits like Kiera Knightly. Story's over. Time to move on.

I have watched her performances which I thought were mostly good; so have the British Independent Film Awards committee, and they thought enough of her to give her a statue for The Libertine. We don't have a crystal ball so we can't say where she'll be in five years, but the "already a has-been" bit is puzzling to me though, seeing as she's got three films lined up, is one of the top ten highest paid Brit film actresses and is in the top 1% of actress salaries today. Not too shabby.

[TortillaFactory]

I don't see Bond a "biter"?

Oooh, I do.

Which may say more about me than it does about him, I suppose.

re: the quote in the headline. I may be losing my mind - again - but I swear I have seen headline-quotes that are clearly paraphrased and/or altered, based on the actual quotes that appear in the article. I can't quite see Pike referring to him as "Brosnan" anyway. What are they, classmates at Eton? The whole thing smells fishy, and since (in my limited experience) a great number of UK newspapers toe the line between "paper" and "tabloid" anyway, I'm reserving judgement on the whole thing. Tabloids get away with all sorts of crap because peoples' prurient interest pays enough to settle in court 99% of the time.

Once again, about the teenager-in-the-subway thing. I am sure that if a sincere, mature fan approached her, she would have no problem with it. I imagine that particular situation made her uncomfortable and she mentioned it offhand...next thing you know, BAM! An entire story is based on it. How I love the media.

This whole thing is much ado about nothing, and a great testament to the media's ability to rile without any real evidence.

[secret_007]

Im sure she just saying that cuz she fed up of beign famous.

[blueman]

Pike may have been drunk during the kissing scene, but the next day Brosnan was still old.