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[Agent007.5]

So I've heard in a number of interviews from Barbera that the opening of CR will be shoot in b&w, which I think is a great idea, but I'm wondering if they will put in a little colour. So hopefully the gun barrel will be b&w, but I also hope that the blood in the gun barel is colour and maybe a few other spots in this sequence I hope will be colour, such as during Bond's first two kills, if they do show the blood (hopefully they do), I hope it's colour. So I'm hoping for a Sin City- like opening, then the rest would be like a regular Bond film.

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Edited by Qwerty, 04 April 2006 - 02:04 AM.

[Harmsway]

From certain reports, the gunbarrel doesn't occur until *after* the PTS, and would open on the Main Titles.

[Andrew]

This might want to be moved to the spoiler forum...

[tdalton]

This might want to be moved to the spoiler forum...

Yes, it should be. Even the title of the thread is a spoiler.

[Qwerty]

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[crheath]

Spoiler ahead!!!!

At the end of the movie, Bond finds out that he died in the pre title sequence and has been dead all through the movie. This explains why no one but Haley Joel Osment speaks to him.

[Qwerty]

Spoiler ahead!!!!

At the end of the movie, Bond finds out that he died in the pre title sequence and has been dead all through the movie. This explains why no one but Haley Joel Osment speaks to him.

[TortillaFactory]

Nice 6th Sense reference - and I still think Olivia Williams would have been a great Vesper.

Meh, I don't think the gunbarrel/pts being in b&w or color will make a difference. I am sure whatever they do will be cool.

[Tinfinger]

Will Craig still say Bond, James Bond, or will he insist upon being called just Jimmy?

[medrecess]

I read in the script that he will kill 2 people to get his licence.One will be some person in Pakistan.Both the killings will be in the PTS.

[Skudor]

I keep reading references to these interviews etc. where they say the PTS will be in B&W... but I can't remember reading it anywhere except on the forums.... anyone have a link to an actual quote?

[JimmyBond]

Will Craig still say Bond, James Bond, or will he insist upon being called just Jimmy?

What does that have anything to do with anything? Of course he'll be referred to as James Bond.

[TheSaint]

Figured I'd stick this here...from Reuters...

MILAN, Italy-British secret agent James Bond has chased the world's most dangerous villains in everything from cars to space shuttles, but in his latest adventure, his vehicle of choice will be a bulldozer. In the opening scene of "Casino Royale", starring Daniel Craig, Agent 007 will pursue his latest enemy in a four-wheel W190 bulldozer supplied by Fiat. "We are happy and very proud of it," said spokeswoman Silvia Cassani.

[DanMan]

That sequence takes place after the titles. The pre-titles will be Bond killing Dryden in Prague and Fisher in Pakistan.

[zencat]

You know, several times now we've heard the Madagascar action referred to as the "opening scene" of the movie. I've always taken this to mean it's the first action scene after the PTS and Titles (as DanMan says above). But is it possible Eon has cut the original PTS idea and now open the movie with the Madagascar action? Or maybe they still have one side of the PTS and the second "kill" is this sequence? It would certainly be more in line with Eon's recent bloated 20-minute-burn-you-out-for-the-rest-of-the-movie PTSs. Scary thought. Thankfully, at this moment, it's just a thought.

[DanMan]

Very scary thought.

[Harmsway]

You know, several times now we've heard the Madagascar action referred to as the "opening scene" of the movie. I've always taken this to mean it's the first action scene after the PTS and Titles (as DanMan says above). But is it possible Eon has cut the original PTS idea and now open the movie with the Madagascar action? Or maybe they still have one side of the PTS and the second "kill" is this sequence? It would certainly be more in line with Eon's recent bloated 20-minute-burn-you-out-for-the-rest-of-the-movie PTSs. Scary thought. Thankfully, at this moment, it's just a thought.

Horrid thought, but it's only that.

Craig confirmed that the PTS stuff had been shot (he discussed that whole gunbarrel thing in an interview and there seem to be photos from that scene) and furthermore Campbell confirmed that we see the two kills and referred to what they were like from the script. Interviews have continually confirmed that the PTS is the way it is.

[JimmyBond]

I hope so. It's about time we've had a short pretitles again. They used to be called teasers for a reason. 20 minutes is not a tease!

[Tinfinger]

I guess I am the only one on this site who liked the pretitles sequences the way they have been.

[Harmsway]

I guess I am the only one on this site who liked the pretitles sequences the way they have been.

Nah, you're not. I think the Brosnan era delivered as far as pre-title sequences are concerned. Great fun.

But I do think there's a beauty and awesomeness to the shorter, simpler pre-title sequences, like in the Connery era. There's just that much added poignancy given to it. They don't wear you out, they tease you enough to bring you in. Despite the Brosnan sequences being fun, sometimes they were downright exhausting.

It will be a nice change of pace to have a shorter sequence, I think.

[Robert Watts]

I think this one won't go to long. The good thing is it is intercut- so while a lot is happening it probably will have a fast pace. My bet is the colour will kick in as the blood comes over the gunbarrel.

[Tinfinger]

Next question is who is singing the song? Will there ba a credits like we have had in the past? Instead of women floating around on screen, will there be cards? Will we get sexually suggestive card tricks?

[Skudor]

Hmmm I can see it now... the Queen of Hearts card floats across the screen, slowly the clothes slide off and we see the slihouette of a naked woman... etc. etc.

Apparently the PTS is actually something to do with the 007 getting stamped on some files. Sounds corny, but let's wait and see.

[JimmyBond]

Will there ba a credits like we have had in the past? Instead of women floating around on screen, will there be cards? Will we get sexually suggestive card tricks?

Like every Bond film before it, Casino Royale will have a main title sequence.

[Orion]

Daniel Kleinman is the one who decides what goes in the opening credits, so why the would it be scripted, Purvis and Wade would know that after working on two films, once again arousing my suspision that this "Script leak" is fake

[SecretAgent007]

I'm all for a shorter PTS. I would have preferred TWINE's opening to end with Bond walking up the street in Spain after going out the window. The whole Thames thing could have been after the titles. Wasn't it originally to be that way? As long as the PTS features Bond, and a stunt/or doing something interesting that the audience is not quite sure about what is going on, I'm happy. I never really cared for the PTS is LALD or TMWTGG. If I'm going to a Bond movie, I want Bond in the PTS.

[JimmyBond]

Daniel Kleinman is the one who decides what goes in the opening credits, so why the would it be scripted, Purvis and Wade would know that after working on two films, once again arousing my suspision that this "Script leak" is fake

Actually the producers have final say what goes into the film. Any part of the film. I'm glad your suspicions have been aroused, so everyone that has commented on the script and reviewed the script is reporting on a fake script? Why then does reported scenes from the script match up detail for detail with the footage we've seen?

Explain that will you.

[Orion]

AICN's review came AFTER the confirmed stuff, Latino Reviews came before and doesn't mention what the title sequence is like, just that the gunbarrels in it

i believed that Latino Review had a genuine copy of the script but there were one too many problems in the one that AICN reviewed for me to believe that one, for example when bond apparently admires himself in a tux he does it in a way that all three screenwriters said they were staying as far away from as possible, and that pescific bit (like that anyway) wasn't in Latino Reviews version

[JimmyBond]

AICN had the same copy of the script that Latino Review (and IGN for that matter) reviewed off of. There is only one copy of the script floating around.

You do realize the Latino Review script only covers the first 40 or so pages right? Maybe a lot of that stuff covered in the AICN review happens later in the film eh? That's definately a possibility.

[sidspappy]

Well, if the PTS and opening credits from DAD is anything to go by, the trend is to actually extend/enhance the plot DURING the credits. You see Bond taken into custody in Korea, and that segues into the credits, which do a credible (pun not intended) job of giving us the usual CGI/Girl-laden eye-candy interspersed with Brosnan's torture scenes. I imagine that this would be similar to the entirely-plausible notion that you will see Bond getting his MI6 I.D. stamped with his double-O's, along with media coverage of the assasinations.

As for the comment that color should be interspersed by CGI into the B&W PTS, I do like that idea, but I'm certain EON would never go for it, as they will want to avoid demolishing the suspension of disbelief. Sin City KNEW it was a comic come to life, and the splashes of color only intensified the comic-book sensibility.

On the other hand, the insertion of color in Schindler's List, drove home the drama and was an unsubtle message from Spielberg about the Nazi atrocities. But even then, this kind of intentional highlighting would not work in a Bond film.

It would be received with the same groans as seeing an invisible car and glacier parasurfing...