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[killkenny kid]

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- The PTS will be in black & white and change to color at a certain point (the gunbarrel?)
- Scuba diving in the 1st act of the film
- Whole film will be shot with quite a bit of of handheld cameras and will feature a lot of other nontraditional Bond lighting/camerawork

Excuse me, won't you? I think I've just come.

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[JimmyBond]

I think the color has to be the gunbarrel, as Stax reported, in the screenplay, the gunbarrel was placed after the PTS and opens on the main titles.

Hardly conclusive. As Fierstien's TND draft has the gunbarrel placed after the teaser and before the main titles. We wont know where the gunbarrel is located till after someone sees the film.

[Seannery]

I think the color has to be the gunbarrel, as Stax reported, in the screenplay, the gunbarrel was placed after the PTS and opens on the main titles.

Hardly conclusive. As Fierstien's TND draft has the gunbarrel placed after the teaser and before the main titles. We wont know where the gunbarrel is located till after someone sees the film.

I agree--that actually is Harmsway's quote NOT mine.

[JimmyBond]

I knew I buggered it up. I'll fix it with a quick edit.

[Harmsway]

I think the color has to be the gunbarrel, as Stax reported, in the screenplay, the gunbarrel was placed after the PTS and opens on the main titles.

Hardly conclusive. As Fierstien's TND draft has the gunbarrel placed after the teaser and before the main titles. We wont know where the gunbarrel is located till after someone sees the film.

I agree--that actually is Harmsway's quote NOT mine.

Inconclusive, yes, but I think the pre-titles being in B&W makes it more of a possibility. I have a hard time seeing the gunbarrel open on B&W, and it makes sense to have the B&W assassinations in the PTS be a bit abstract, devoid of color (because Bond hasn't really become 007 yet). Then with the gunbarrel logo, we shoot into color and the main titles.

It just seems to make sense to me.

[Loomis]

Black and white bits? Hmmm.... sounds a bit "arty" to me, a bit "trying too hard". Wouldn't mind, but it risks looking just like yer average Tony Scott film.

And why won't they ditch Panavision for just one film?

[killkenny kid]

phew, now that I have stop laughing. This is fantastic news, something new and fresh for the world of Bond.

[Seannery]

Black and white bits? Hmmm.... sounds a bit "arty" to me, a bit "trying too hard". Wouldn't mind, but it risks looking just like yer average Tony Scott film.

And why won't they ditch Panavision for just one film?

The handhelds I can do without.

[JimmyBond]

And why won't they ditch Panavision for just one film?

Would a smaller aspect ratio really make the film better? I actually prefer Bond to be in wide scope, gives it the potential to be more epic.

[Bon-san]

Black and white bits? Hmmm.... sounds a bit "arty" to me, a bit "trying too hard". Wouldn't mind, but it risks looking just like yer average Tony Scott film.

And why won't they ditch Panavision for just one film?

Loomis, now don't take this the wrong way, but I believe I've got one thing figured now.

When the majority are slating something, you stand up to defend it.

But when the majority are lavishing praise, you raise objections.

The Devil's Advocate must be in your blood.

You're not a barrister are you?

[Gobi-1]

The black and white opening leading into the gunbarrel sounds great. It will really give the first part of the film a 1950s vibe. I wonder if they'll ressurect the old gunbarrel footage from Dr. No or recreate something similar to it but with Craig doing the shooting.

[Mister Asterix]

Re: the hand-held cameras. The BBC footage shows the use of the steady cam.

[TaoMike]

I'm a little unsure about the black-and-white thing... But I'll maintain my cautious optimism. (Although the "cautiousness" has pretty much been blown away by the amazing BBC footage...)

And -- maybe it's just me -- but I assumed that the "scuba diving" comment was just a joke.

[zencat]

I think the color has to be the gunbarrel, as Stax reported, in the screenplay, the gunbarrel was placed after the PTS and opens on the main titles.

Hardly conclusive. As Fierstien's TND draft has the gunbarrel placed after the teaser and before the main titles. We wont know where the gunbarrel is located till after someone sees the film.

I agree--that actually is Harmsway's quote NOT mine.

Inconclusive, yes, but I think the pre-titles being in B&W makes it more of a possibility. I have a hard time seeing the gunbarrel open on B&W, and it makes sense to have the B&W assassinations in the PTS be a bit abstract, devoid of color (because Bond hasn't really become 007 yet). Then with the gunbarrel logo, we shoot into color and the main titles.

It just seems to make sense to me.

Makes sense to me too.

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[Niwram]

Maybe, after the movie is out, I can do a restoration project to put color back in the PTS. That way I can take the movie seriously.

Edited by Niwram, 09 March 2006 - 08:19 PM.

[Bon-san]

Maybe, after the movie is out, I can do a restauration project to put color back in the PTS. That way I can take the movie seriously.

CITIZEN KANE, CASABLANCA, SCHINDLER'S LIST, THE ELEPHANT MAN, The better half of RATTLE & HUM, DR. STRANGELOVE, BLOW-UP.......the list goes on and on.

All shot in b/w, and all seriously kicked butt.

[Niwram]

Yeah, but they should either shoot the whole movie in black and white,
or they should shoot the whole movie in color.

Not doing THIS crazy thing.

Edited by Niwram, 09 March 2006 - 08:23 PM.

[Genrewriter]

Little worried about the whole handheld camera thing. Hate that.

I like the idea of the PTS being black and white. I can see that working.

As long as the handheld stuff isn't to the degree it is in a Michael Bay movie (so jumpy you can't tell what's happening), I'm fine with it.

As for the B&W, this is terrific news. It's about time we got some serious risk taking in the series. Seems like they're taking the kinds of risks they took while doing LTK. As much as I loved the Brosnan films, they always felt somewhat safe. Nice to see some daring stuff going on behind the camera as well as in front.

[Bon-san]

Yeah, but they should either shoot the whole movie in black and white,
or they should shoot the whole movie in color.

Not doing THIS crazy thing.

Ever see THE WIZARD OF OZ?

[Genrewriter]

I think the color has to be the gunbarrel, as Stax reported, in the screenplay, the gunbarrel was placed after the PTS and opens on the main titles.

Hardly conclusive. As Fierstien's TND draft has the gunbarrel placed after the teaser and before the main titles. We wont know where the gunbarrel is located till after someone sees the film.

I agree--that actually is Harmsway's quote NOT mine.

Inconclusive, yes, but I think the pre-titles being in B&W makes it more of a possibility. I have a hard time seeing the gunbarrel open on B&W, and it makes sense to have the B&W assassinations in the PTS be a bit abstract, devoid of color (because Bond hasn't really become 007 yet). Then with the gunbarrel logo, we shoot into color and the main titles.

It just seems to make sense to me.

Makes sense to me too.

(Read: Royale Media Blitz)

I can see that as well. Sounds like a very cool idea.

[Kronsteen]

Makes sense to me too.

(Read: Royale Media Blitz)

Well, there it is.

I suspect this

[zencat]

[quote name='Kronsteen' post='529698' date='9 March 2006 - 12:35']
[quote name='zencat' post='529668' date='9 March 2006 - 21:08']
Makes sense to me too.

(Read: Royale Media Blitz)
[/quote]

Well, there it is.

I suspect this

[JimmyBond]

Maybe, after the movie is out, I can do a restoration project to put color back in the PTS. That way I can take the movie seriously.

Reminds me of the guy who told me he was going to edit out the capture sequence in DAD because (as he said): "James Bond doesnt get caught!"

[Genrewriter]

Hmm, seems to me that the guy gets caught in every single film. It's just that in DAD they actually restrain him and beat him senseless first.

[Fletch]

Sounds great, with an emphasis on history and looking forward. The past is the B&W, it's James Bond, on his first mission, yet to earn his "00" status. After he completes the mission and gets his first kills, we splash into color, for the gunbarrel sequence, as now we realize he has become 007. Film noir PTS, globetrotting, bloody and bruised Bond, new actor, fresh twist----all good stuff. Cannot wait.

[DanMan]

A Bond movie with balls. Finally.

[Doctor Shatterhand]

In a perfect world, everything about Bond past (and Bond as a unexperienced agent) would be over after the PTS. And in that case, a PTS in black and white could be a good idea. Also nice to see some scuba diving again

But handheld cameras...

Hmm, isn't there a great deal of handheld camera work in OHMSS. I think some of you are being a tad bit too critical in this discussion. I trust Martin Campbell on this and I think we really are in for a treat. Thanks Barbara and Michael - Cubby would be proud.

[Agent 76]

Black & White filming is a interesting touch to the pre-titles sequence.

It'll be great to see it on cinema.

[Pal]

I think I like the black and white concept. It really adds a certain element of symbolism and if the cards are played correctly, we may just get one of, if not, the best PTS. Craig's pics as well as the new footage is extremely promising and this is very exciting for me because this is the 1st bond movie where I've actually followed the production.

[a_crook]

This news about the handheld camera work and the b&w is fantasic. Perhaps the most exciting news yet... even more so than Craig being Bond. It truly means they are commited to bringing this franchise back to the cutting edge. I have said in numberous posts that I hoped that one day they would hire a young edgy director, but apparently they just needed to cut Campbell lose a little.

Really exciting news on all fronts... Bond always has held his own in style and excitement, but now we are going to be challenged by both character developement and visually interesting direction, I'm in heaven!