Walther PPK is Back
#1
Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:14 PM
I have a reliable source who tells me that EON Productions ordered a batch of Walther PPK's from the company who supply them with movie guns (blank firers, rubber etc). This was at the end of 2005.
He has confirmed this again to me recently, the Walther PPK WILL feature in the film. Of course what role is not certan, but from the evidence at hand it seems it will be Bond's main weapon.
For those who are new and aren;t sure, here she is...the elegant old lady is back!
http://www.pistoletc...ther_P5_PPK.jpg
#2
Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:43 PM
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Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:55 PM
#4
Posted 25 February 2006 - 07:57 PM
#5
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:11 PM
#6
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:26 PM
The model slips my mind, but there is a "mini" P99 that's quite nice.
#7
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:44 PM
P99, is that the gun that Bond cannot know is loaded or not (DAD) ? I wonder if Brosnan questioned the inanity of this scene, where the professional goes around with en empty gun, not realising it despite the weight difference (you think he should know his gun), or checking it after a good squeeze.
Yea that is a stupid scene. The P99 holds 16 9mm rounds, that's a considerable amount of weight within a gun which is lightweight already. You'd notice in a second it had been emptied...idiot.
Well it is certainly playing a considerable role in the film, and as far as he knows no P99's have been ordered so...looks certainly like it is the old PPK back in Bond's holster.
#8
Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:46 PM
Edited by stamper, 25 February 2006 - 10:49 PM.
#9
Posted 26 February 2006 - 03:56 AM
P99, is that the gun that Bond cannot know is loaded or not (DAD) ? I wonder if Brosnan questioned the inanity of this scene, where the professional goes around with en empty gun, not realising it despite the weight difference (you think he should know his gun), or checking it after a good squeeze.
Yea that is a stupid scene. The P99 holds 16 9mm rounds, that's a considerable amount of weight within a gun which is lightweight already. You'd notice in a second it had been emptied...idiot.
Well it is certainly playing a considerable role in the film, and as far as he knows no P99's have been ordered so...looks certainly like it is the old PPK back in Bond's holster.
Actually the P99 was loaded. Miranda removed the firing pin. Now about the PPK returning, .
#10
Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:04 AM
Doesn't it click when he tries to fire it?
#11
Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:17 AM
How do you know that?
Doesn't it click when he tries to fire it?
The click is the sound of the hammer coming down. It's stated in the DAD screenplay and novelization. I went back to read it just now and she didn't remove it but she bent it rendering it useless. Bad or no firing pin = no bang.
How do you know that?
Doesn't it click when he tries to fire it?
The click is the sound of the hammer coming down. It's stated in the DAD screenplay and novelization. I went back to read it just now and she didn't remove it but she bent it rendering it useless. Bad or no firing pin = no bang.
Okay, in the novel the click is described as "the sound of a bent firing pin". So yeah she screwed with the P99's firing pin, not remove bullets.
#12
Posted 26 February 2006 - 04:23 AM
#13
Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:15 AM
I still think there's room for Bond to have two guns;the P99 should still be used on Commando assignments because it's a higher caliber with more capacity.
#14
Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:17 AM
#15
Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:30 AM
Great news. Love the pic. It's my new desktop!
I still think there's room for Bond to have two guns;the P99 should still be used on Commando assignments because it's a higher caliber with more capacity.
I've always argued that. Something like the Goldeneye PTS needs the P99, whereas the TWINE PTS needs a PPK. Why not just let him use both occasionally? I mean, Benson gave him both in the novels.
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:32 AM
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 08:59 AM
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 09:52 AM
#19
Posted 26 February 2006 - 05:50 PM
The click is the sound of the hammer coming down. It's stated in the DAD screenplay and novelization. I went back to read it just now and she didn't remove it but she bent it rendering it useless. Bad or no firing pin = no bang.
Okay, in the novel the click is described as "the sound of a bent firing pin". So yeah she screwed with the P99's firing pin, not remove bullets.
That makes more sense then, thanks for clearing that up ASO
#20
Posted 26 February 2006 - 06:14 PM
#21
Posted 26 February 2006 - 07:04 PM
Ian Fleming deliberatly made some things up because, for example, they sounded good. The Berns-Martin triple draw holster, great name, fancy holster...but it was only for revolvers on a harness. He didn;t care because it's fiction and the name was good.
The Walther PPK is a Bond classic, and still looks elegant and cool today. I think there is a limit to how far you should take reality with Bond films, they need that veneer of fantasy and elegance beyond reality.
I think the ASP is a pretty ugly looking gun myself. Plus James Bond's signature is Walther, any other gun would subtract a small chunk of that classic Bondness about the films like him using a Glock or modern Beretta or an ugly ASP.
That's my view on it anyway. I love the PPK for 007.
#22
Posted 26 February 2006 - 07:13 PM
http://www.impactgun...ore/220029.html
It's a Smith and Wesson, and you can use it in 2006
#23
Posted 26 February 2006 - 07:58 PM
Back in the lates 90s I expected Bond to go with the "pocket-pistol" Glock 26/27 rather than the hard-to-conceal Walther P99, but I understood (and still do) the nostalgic importance of the Walther brand.
#24
Posted 26 February 2006 - 08:35 PM
Loved the ppk! But in the case of firearms Bond needs to modernize, because the bad guys aren't going to be nostalgic for his benefit. May I suggest Mr. Bond, one of these...
http://www.impactgun...ore/220029.html
It's a Smith and Wesson, and you can use it in 2006
Yes, theoretically you could use in 2006, though I really don't see any reason a secret agent would wish to do so.
#25
Posted 26 February 2006 - 09:24 PM
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Posted 26 February 2006 - 10:29 PM
#27
Posted 27 February 2006 - 12:00 AM
#28
Posted 27 February 2006 - 01:24 AM
...I'm not even sure that the real MI6 or CIA have a standard issue handgun anymore. I believe it is the agents' choice of pistol.
Any intelligence operative these days (real world) is given a "short list" as I'm told. It consists of about fifteen pistols and, while not knowing of the full list, I do know that the PPK, H&K P7 M13 and ASP (threaded barrel) do appear on it.
If we're going to have martini's, a casino yet no tux or smoking, let's at least add the PPK. Most fire combat close quarters exchanges take place beween 3-5 meters. It's not about what you shoot, it's about HOW you shoot it.
#29
Posted 27 February 2006 - 02:40 AM
Yeah I liked that. And it makes sense, I mean, Bond isn't a policeman, he can get whatever weapons or tools he needs for the mission. But anyway, it's really nice to see the PPK back, if this is true. I never liked the P99 much, I've always wanted him to go back to the PPK or go to something slimmer and more unique like the FN57 (yes, I will be lobbying for that to become Bond's new pistol till the end of time...) lol
Great news. Love the pic. It's my new desktop!
I still think there's room for Bond to have two guns;the P99 should still be used on Commando assignments because it's a higher caliber with more capacity.
I've always argued that. Something like the Goldeneye PTS needs the P99, whereas the TWINE PTS needs a PPK. Why not just let him use both occasionally? I mean, Benson gave him both in the novels.
#30
Posted 04 March 2006 - 06:42 PM
The PPK is small, beautifully formed and iconic.
I was watching Downfall on Channel 4, the other night and it reminded me that Hitler used his Walther to commit suicide. Somehow, arming Britain's greatest secret agent with the gun that finished off modern history's most evil villain seems totally appropriate.