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[Skin 17]

I liked the plot, and Trevelyan was a worthy adversary, but overall I find the film to be boring. I prefer Tomorrow Never Dies.

[Double-0-Seven]

It's a great film, but it's my least favorite of all of Pierce Brosnan's movies.

[Qwerty]

It's a great film, but it's my least favorite of all of Pierce Brosnan's movies.

What's your favourite?

[BondReader 007]

It has really grown on me, becoming my second favorite next to TWINE. You should ask this question about DAD and see what kind of response you'd get.

[I Like Sharks]

Goldeneye's cool but theres some stuff I don't like:
-Never really explained how Trevelyan gets shot in head and blown up in nerve gas plant and lives
-The middle section (from the theft of the helicopter to the tank chase) is pretty boring.
-The BMW is hardly used (so whats the point of having it other than product placement. You could remove it and the film would still be the same!) Loads of people have a BMW Z3 these days so it's not like it's the sort of luxury car Bond should be driving
-There's a lack of glamour in the women in this film. Natalya spends most of the film in a cardigan or combat trousers. Onnatopps a great villainess but you would'nt want to sleep with her for obvious reasons. The girl in Bond's Aston Martin and Minnie Driver: They're pretty but no more than plenty of women you see everyday.
-That song over the closing credits-IT IS DREADFUL!!!!!

But Goldeneye's got great villains-especially Sean Bean who has set the bar for villains who are Bond's equal. Brosnan's good. I like the way he dos'nt seem to be comfortable in the role yet. The action sequences are fantastic. I quite like the score: it's different and has the right haunting industrial vibe for a film set in post cold war Russia. I'm glad that David Arnold took over.

Goldeneye's not one of my favourite Bond films but I think it's a good film. I prefer Tommorrow Never Dies though as it's more fun

[Tinfinger]

Not the best Brosnan Bond, but it's decent. Saw it on my birthday when it was released. Not wild about the score and direction, though, but the rest of the movie is decent.

[DanMan]

Great movie, but I remember being really confused how Alec survived the pre-titles when I was younger.

[tdalton]

I liked the plot, and Trevelyan was a worthy adversary, but overall I find the film to be boring.

I thought so too. Trevelyan could have ended up being the greatest villain in the series had the production team not misused him in every possible way. First of all, in some of the TV spots that were released (which can be found on the DVD, I think), Trevelyan is outed as the villain. This takes away from a great deal of intrigue and suspense the film could have possibly built up throughout the first hour, when things weren't moving particularly fast. The "who did it" angle would have worked much better had we not known that it was 006 all along. Putting the focus on a more minor character, such as Zuchovsky (so that he could have actually had a real impact in the film), Mishkin, or even Orumov would have made the film 10x better. I think that, in the PR leading up to the release of the film, minor villains like Orumov should have been hyped quite a bit while 006 was kept in the background, so that he could have had one of the greatest villain introductions in the series when he walked out from behind the statue midway through the film. But, since we already knew that he was the villain, it ruined what could have been a great scene.

But, without any surprises like this, the movie is extremely boring, since nothing really happens during the first 45 minutes or so, other than the theft of the helicopter.

[Stuff_My_Orders]

I'm not particulary fond of Goldeneye no sirre Bob!!! First time I watched it on Video, right when it came out, I fell asleep and that's something that never happened to me before during a movie. I tried to give it a shot on four occasions (last time yesterday) and I just can't watch this crap. If OHMSS och TLDL have been unjustly undervalued when they came out, Goldeneye was unjustly overvalued. For people who complain that LTK was a failure because it didn't feel like a Bondmovie, I don't share that gloom about LTK but I think that remark would be justified for Goldeneye. Goldeneye is a fanfiction from the feministmovement how a actionmovie should look like, and both the scenes with Samantha Bond and Judi Dench are overstated feminist views on the character James Bond. Both these womens comments make my stomach turn inside out. I think the equal balance of Bond and the strong female characters was best portrayed in the Timothy Dalton installments of the series (except for a thing or two i TLDL, like slapping Caroline Bliss on the bottom, wich I for one can live with), the women were strong and equal to Bond without topping him. And Dalton never was nothing but a gentleman and nothing like Connery/Brosnan/Moore/Lazenby. Pierce Brosnan is a wimp caught in the women's rights movement.

This is what bothers me the most in this film, that the women HAVE TO top Bond in every scene. I don't understand why Natalya must kick and insult Bond every time he tries to rescue her. If someone would do that to me I wouldn't want to rescue them, rudeness and being a bitch is not the way to go about equality. You can have feminism but you don't have to exaggerate. Watch the Daltonmovies again and go back that feeling.

In other respects this doesn't feel like a Bondmovie, I don't like Brosnan or the other characters. The only good one is Sean Bean as Janus.

Goldeneye is the worst Bondmovie.

EDIT: Robbie Coltrane is also very good in this film, too bad we don't get to see that much of him.

Edited by Stuff_My_Orders, 19 April 2006 - 09:11 AM.

[JimmyBond]

I agree and disagree with you there. I definately agree that they went too far with the feminist talk, not only that, but every other scene is there to make fun of Bond and let us know how "out of date" he is, everyone gets a crack at making jokes about Bond. I suppose this was the writers way of cracking fun at the series but I just added to the fact that Bond did seem terribly out of date at that time (89-95).

If anything, I think it's TND that really cemented Brosnan as Bond and is also a much better story.

[Harmsway]

If anything, I think it's TND that really cemented Brosnan as Bond and is also a much better story.

Perhaps, but it's just as poorly, if not more poorly, executed. It's a film of missed opportunities.

[JimmyBond]

I don't think so. TND works as an action film, and that's exactly what they set out to make. It's not pretentious like TWINE is, nor is it self aware like Goldeneye is.