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[Kissy]

I think that Goldeneye is just a ok Bond movie. It has some good moments, but Xenia Onatop is so on-Bond, the music by Eric Serra is horrible, the line "That what keeps me a life" is one of the worst lines in the series and the Natalia is some of worst Bond-girls.

The movie also doesn't feel as Bond movie, Brosnan is my opinion the worst Bond (But he is still good). I think that Tommorow Never Dies and The World is not Enough feel more as Bond movies.

[ChandlerBing]

No

[ChickenStu]

There's things I dislike about Goldeneye, but the film I love as a whole. I think it's the best Bond movie since "The Spy Who Loved Me", and the best out of all Brosnan's movies. I wish the ones that followed were a bit more like it.

[Mr_Wint]

It's a decent actionmovie but definitively one of the weaker Bondfilms. Weak script, weak direction, weak action and not one single memorable character. I agree that TWINE is a superior Bondmovie.

Still, a step in the right direction after the dreadful LTK.

[Streetworker]

It's a decent actionmovie but definitively one of the weaker Bondfilms. Weak script, weak direction, weak action and not one single memorable character. I agree that TWINE is a superior Bondmovie.

Still, a step in the right direction after the dreadful LTK.

I like all the Brosnan Bonds, but GoldenEye's probably the one I like least of the quartet. As for the best of the four, it's always a toss-up for me between the other three. But I love the pace of TND - particularly the first hour - and its pre-credits sequence is my favourite of the whole series.

[Qwerty]

Not me; I'm a fan of the film. While Tomorrow Never Dies is my favorite of the Pierce Brosnan James Bond films, GoldenEye is definitely in second place. Some solid villains and a level of enjoyment and fun throughout.

[double-O-Durg]

I like GE, decent bond film. It has its niggles (over emphasis on Natalya and Boris just got on my nerves) but I like the concept of Trevelyan being the bad guy. I dont think it wudve wrked as well if Trev had bein the older father figure he was written as because i always thought M (the previous one) had been tht figure in Bonds life.

Overall i think its one of Broz's better ones

[YOLT]

I think that Goldeneye is just a ok Bond movie. It has some good moments, but Xenia Onatop is so on-Bond, the music by Eric Serra is horrible, the line "That what keeps me a life" is one of the worst lines in the series and the Natalia is some of worst Bond-girls.

The movie also doesn't feel as Bond movie, Brosnan is my opinion the worst Bond (But he is still good). I think that Tommorow Never Dies and The World is not Enough feel more as Bond movies.

I agree totally. Its the worst Bond film. I really cant callk this a Bond movie, the music is also horrible. TWINE and especially TND are much more superior to GE.
It just doesnt have the Bond feel.

[Blue07]

Great film, Great Bond, crap music.

[Blofeld's Cat]

I think it's a great Bond film!

Probably the best of any actor's 1st Bond movie since Dr. No, and it's certainly the best Brosnan has done after Die Another Day.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

I think that Goldeneye is just a ok Bond movie. It has some good moments, but Xenia Onatop is so on-Bond, the music by Eric Serra is horrible, the line "That what keeps me a life" is one of the worst lines in the series and the Natalia is some of worst Bond-girls.

The movie also doesn't feel as Bond movie, Brosnan is my opinion the worst Bond (But he is still good). I think that Tommorow Never Dies and The World is not Enough feel more as Bond movies.

I agree that it's just OK and that TND and TWINE(despite too many soap opera-ish elements) do have more of the epic-Bond "feel" that GE lacked. Of course, GE didn't have the budget of its successors. The story idea of 006 as villain is a good one and I liked having 007 in the former U.S.S.R.. However, GE should have had a better director, the screenplay should have been polished more prior to shooting and the whole film should have been rescored(It's a James Bond movie and he'd been of the screens since 1989. Is it too much to ask to expect to hear the Bond theme we know and love in a 007 flick?). As it stands, GE's certainly watchable but I would hardly rank it as one of the best Bond films. However, I do think Natalya is the best of Brosnan's 4 Bond heroines.

[Double-Oh Agent]

GoldenEye is a great Bond film. It's got great villains (particularly Xenia Onatopp), a great Bond (although it's not Brosnan's best performance), a good plot, and good stunts (love the tank chase). The main thing against the film is the score, which just doesn't work. It's simply not Bondian. I think the score works better listening to it on the CD than while watching the movie. But overall, I think GoldenEye is one of the best 007 films. Besides, it should earn extra credit points for reviving the series.

[tdalton]

GoldenEye barely ranks among the mediocre Bond films for me. There was just so much going for it, and it managed to mess up many of its areas of great potential. First of all, this film would have been better as a Dalton Bond film, especially since it was written for him. Brosnan clearly showed that he was much more effective in Bond films that were written for his own style, and his performances seemed much more natural in those than it did in GE. In GE, he just never looked comfortable as Bond. A matchup of Dalton and Anthony Hopkins (who was supposedly approached to play Trevelyan opposite Dalton in early stages of preproduction, if I remember correctly). Another thing that bothered me was that this was just a glorified bank-robber film. As Bond himself says late in the film, all Trevelyan will be remembered as is a commong criminal, a bank robber, or something to that effect. If they had given Trevelyan a bit more of a grander scheme (and I'm all for gritty, and more realistic schemes about things other than world domination, but there should be more to it than what was in GE).

One thing I will say, however, is that I actually liked Eric Serra's score for this film. Sure, it was different, but different's not always a bad thing, and it was nice to get a change of pace musically in a Bond film.

[Flash1087]

Not me; I'm a fan of the film. While Tomorrow Never Dies is my favorite of the Pierce Brosnan James Bond films, GoldenEye is definitely in second place. Some solid villains and a level of enjoyment and fun throughout.

My thoughts exactly. Better than DAD and especially TWINE, but still lacking the Bond-esq grandeur of TND. GoldenEye always seemed, for better or worse, a half-way point between the big epics like Moonraker or YOLT and the gritter serious films, like Dr. No or LTK. Sure, there's a tank chase and the whole movie is about a missing sattelite, but Trevelyan's plan is remarkably grounded, and the whole thing comes off as rather serious (as opposed to the openly fun TND and DAD). And that's kind of where I think it falters. As much as I love AVATK, it has that same problem where they try to balance comic book spectacle and espionage seriousness, and have a problem trying to find a happy medium. For every one scene of Bond trying to find information, or Natalya trying to contact Boris, there's a shootout in a Russian library or a shot of Goldeneye destroying something. That, and the scenes and envrionments are so grey and bleak. Not to mention the score.

Still, I like it better than TWINE!

[Scottlee]

It will always be hailed a classic entry, but my stance has and probably will always be that it's slightly over-rated. The strengths of the film are the fantastic opening, and at the end this time, the wonderful cat and mouse game on the satellite dish. Some of the stuff in-between has the occasional flaw that stop it being one of the best. Dodgy stunt doubles and the lack of a killer soundtrack of my biggest narks. Only my 3rd favourite Brosnan outing I'm afraid.

[Mercator]

I loved Goldeneye. I became hooked on Bond because of it.
It is classic 007.
Probably too classic.

[Publius]

I for one loved GoldenEye. Sure, it wasn't perfect, and undoubtedly fell far short of its potential, but that seems to be the biggest Bond film cliche of them all anyway. Its score got on my nerves at times (okay, a lot of times) and the tired-out "satellite weapon" plot was disappointing, but its strengths outweighed its weaknesses.

Alec Trevelyan as 006 is simply one of the best villains of the series, probably only seriously rivaled by Franz Sanchez. Natalya is a grade-A Bond girl: not too vulnerable, not too tough (i.e. "Bond equal"), but exotic, cool, and certainly sexy just the same. The minor villains (Xenia, Ouromov) were colorful and interesting. The vengeance plot with a former Double-O at its helm, particularly one whose code name has great symbolism when contrasted against 007, his former friend and colleague, was also fantastic.

That said, it would have been even better with a less...shall we say, "innovative" soundtrack, Trevelyan played by Anthony Hopkins, and Timothy Dalton as Bond. Rather than another satellite plot, a scheme to assassinate M, the Queen of England, 007 himself, or some other such figure, would have been sufficient. Such a film could very well have been the quintessential Bond masterpiece.

Brosnan admittedly looks more comfortable in his later outings, where he doesn't appear to feel chained to a "Dalton-lite" performance, even if they themselves aren't better. And, it would have been nice to have Sean Bean as James Bond himself rather than Trevelyan, as great a performance as he gave.

Still, it's a classic in my book, one which revitalized the franchise, gave us some great lines, produced numerous memorable villains and characters (Valentin, Wade, etc.), and of course one of the best video games of all time. Definitely in my top five, not to mention the one I remember most vividly from my Bond-less youth, and the one which started the ball rolling for me as a die-hard Bond fan.

[tdalton]

That said, it would have been even better with a less...shall we say, "innovative" soundtrack, Trevelyan played by Anthony Hopkins, and Timothy Dalton as Bond. Rather than another satellite plot, a scheme to assassinate M, the Queen of England, 007 himself, or some other such figure, would have been sufficient. Such a film could very well have been the quintessential Bond masterpiece.

Brosnan admittedly looks more comfortable in his later outings, where he doesn't appear to feel chained to a "Dalton-lite" performance, even if they themselves aren't better. And, it would have been nice to have Sean Bean as James Bond himself rather than Trevelyan, as great a performance as he gave.

I agree 100%. Dalton as Bond with Hopkins as Trevelyan, along with a plot similar to the one that you describe, then GE is one of the all-time classic Bond films, IMO. Also, I wouldn't have minded seeing Sean Bean as James Bond as well. I thought that he gave a great performance as 006, but I think that he would have been amazing as 007.

[icecold]

A simpler Goldeneye with Dalton would have been interesting but I like the film just the way it is, it was the first one I saw and got me hooked on the films and it's still my favorite of all 20. 006 is the best villain of the series, IMO, and Natalya is great.

[cvheady007]

Admittedly, the music is not great and there are a few things I would change, but Goldeneye is Pierce's best movie and it is the best Bond movie since Connery.

[SportzStooge007]

No, I loved GE, one of my favorite Bond films.

Truly one of the better Bond films, a classic.


Pierce Brosnan is great in his first performance, the scirpt/plot is excellent, acting is great. Everything is good with this film. The best written film in the Brosnan era, probably because it was written for Timothy Dalton.


Its a shame they didn't write the rest of his films for Dalton.


The only Brosnan film that comes close to this is TWINE, which is another one of my personal favorites.

The music, in my opinion, was pretty good too. Very different, which helps set this film out from the pack, which is good.






But I suppose it isn't everyone's cup of tea. It reeks of the year 1995, and has a completely different feel to it, different from the Bond films of the past. Some people don't like this "new feel", and call it "unBondian". I, for one, think it bought Bond into the 21 century. The "old feel" of Bond films had become trite and stale.

[MarcAngeDraco]

As with all Bond films, I could list some things I don't like about it.

But as a whole, I think it was Pierce's best Bond film. It might even make my top 5.

[Arch Stanton]

I LOVE GoldenEye. It was the first Bond movie I saw and turned me into a full-on Bond fan. That may have something to do with my like of it, and I sometimes think it makes me a little bias, but whenever I watch it I'm reminded of how much of a great movie it is. When it comes to action, none of the other films aint got on GE. The action really moves the plot along and is done very well. Say what you will about the score, but I think it's great. Better than anything the overrated (IMHO, anyways) David Arnold did. And whenever I hear people say stuff like "Oh, it's just another bank robbing plot and satalies and stuff." I'm thinking: what the hell movie did you watch? Where you asleep when Alec explained his hate for England because his parents were killed during the British betrayal? Probably one of the best motives a Bond villian ever had.

All in all, one of the best Bond films. My opinion anyways.

Edited by Arch Stanton, 27 December 2005 - 12:14 AM.

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Never !

Goldeneye, along with TND, are the best movies of the whole series !

[Nicolas Suszczyk]

Loved it !!!

[Qwerty]

No, I loved GE, one of my favorite Bond films.

Truly one of the better Bond films, a classic.

Pierce Brosnan is great in his first performance, the scirpt/plot is excellent, acting is great. Everything is good with this film. The best written film in the Brosnan era, probably because it was written for Timothy Dalton.

Its a shame they didn't write the rest of his films for Dalton.

The only Brosnan film that comes close to this is TWINE, which is another one of my personal favorites.

The music, in my opinion, was pretty good too. Very different, which helps set this film out from the pack, which is good.

But I suppose it isn't everyone's cup of tea. It reeks of the year 1995, and has a completely different feel to it, different from the Bond films of the past. Some people don't like this "new feel", and call it "unBondian". I, for one, think it bought Bond into the 21 century. The "old feel" of Bond films had become trite and stale.

What did you think of Tomorrow Never Dies?

[JimmyBond]

Not Pierce's worst outing (that's TWINE) but definately down there. Brosnan is fine I suppose, though he's really wooden at times. I also dont like the way that Bond is basically a bystander for much of the middle of the film (watching the events at MI6, letting Natalya do all the work, etc.) it just feels like Bond is'nt the focus of the film, and therefore is not driving the action. I feel that the main character of a film should always be driving the action, not the other way around.

On the plus side though, Eric Serra's score is probably one of my favorite in the series (marred only by the inclusion of the Bond theme during the tank chase, wished they would have used Serra's original piece). And there is some decent action sequences.

[MaFru]

GoldenEye, first and only Bond movie that bored me to tears the first time I saw it, don't know why, it just did.

Over the years I started to value some points: both Bond girls are quite good, Alec is a worthy villain,
but I still hate that dreadful "elevator music" that pretends to be a 007 score, and Boris, of course...so
annoying!

Still, on my list it ranks pretty low, only beaten by LTK & AVTAK as worst Bond movie ever.

Yes, I like TWINE, even DAD more than GE, not a popular choice uh?

Hey, I'm not a popular guy anyway..

[Qwerty]

Welcome to the CommanderBond.net Forums, MaFru.

[killkenny kid]

Yes, welcome Mafru. I'm with you about Eric Serra's score. To this day I still dislike it.