Top 20 All Formats All Price - Week ending 10 December 2005
Rank Title Publisher
1 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED ELECTRONIC ARTS
2 FIFA 06 ELECTRONIC ARTS
3 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE ACTIVISION
4 KING KONG: OFFICIAL GAME OF THE MOVIE UBISOFT
5 HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE ELECTRONIC ARTS
6 PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 KONAMI
7 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II LUCASARTS
8 NARNIA: THE LION, THE WITCH & WARDROBE BUENA VISTA GAMES
9 50 CENT: BULLETPROOF VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
10 THE SIMS 2 ELECTRONIC ARTS
11 GUN ACTIVISION
12 GRAND THEFT AUTO: LIBERTY CITY STORIES TAKE 2
13 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 THQ
14 SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG SEGA
15 PRINCE OF PERSIA: THE TWO THRONES UBISOFT
16 CALL OF DUTY 2 ACTIVISION
17 TRUE CRIME: NEW YORK CITY ACTIVISION
18 BUZZ! THE MUSIC QUIZ SONY COMPUTER ENT.
19 CRASH TAG TEAM RACING VIVENDI UNIVERSAL GAMES
20 FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE ELECTRONIC ARTS
http://www.elspa.com...arts/charts.asp
FRWL poor sales performance?
#1
Posted 13 December 2005 - 08:02 PM
#2
Posted 13 December 2005 - 08:19 PM
#3
Posted 13 December 2005 - 08:31 PM
I think this might be a tangible indicator that the deification of the Connery-era and FRWL as the Bond "prototype" does not extend to an audience under...30. This is the second Bond game to rely on nostalgia. Was the success of EoN due to the fact that it didn't trade on Bond's past? Is the absence of Pierce a factor? Interesting...
#4
Posted 13 December 2005 - 08:31 PM
I can already tell you that the entire industry has taken a hit the past three months (Sept - Nov). EA even stated that sales were pretty weak (not specifically of FRWL, but their entire game lineup).
#5
Posted 14 December 2005 - 03:41 AM
#6
Posted 14 December 2005 - 05:03 AM
Though I fully intend to pick up a copy of FRWL, I'm sure there's the notion "why buy a game for a soon to be deleted system?"..... It's crossed my mind.
The answer is that next-gen systems will be backward compatible. GameCube with Revolution, PS2 with PS3, and Xbox with Xbox 360 (although with this last one, it isn't compatible yet, but it will be someday).
A legitimate question though. This is generally why the video game industry takes a hit right around the introduction of new systems.
#7
Posted 14 December 2005 - 06:04 AM
Kids nowaday don't care much for a good storyline... they just care about how gruesome a game looks. It's all about that headshots, and gore. James Bond was never about that... there might be a lot of mature content in the game, but there's no actual sex scenes (i.e. GTASA) or women in skimpy outfits (i.e. DOA).
In my opinion kids these days rate games base on these characteristics:
1) Blood
2) Gore (doesn't necessarily have to include blood)
3) Violence
4) Sex
5) Language
What are our youth coming to?
lol...
Mak
#8
Posted 14 December 2005 - 07:21 PM
And to be somewhat candid I don't think EA really know how to make a truly great Bond game anyhgow. With EON being a fluke that wont be repeated anytime soon. Gamespot and IGN have given it a rating of 7.0 which is deemed fair.
Best for EA to give Bond to another company than to produce more games that will not make for good gameplay and customer satisfaction.
#9
Posted 14 December 2005 - 08:08 PM
#10
Posted 14 December 2005 - 10:34 PM
#11
Posted 14 December 2005 - 11:39 PM
I think this might be a tangible indicator that the deification of the Connery-era and FRWL as the Bond "prototype" does not extend to an audience under...30. This is the second Bond game to rely on nostalgia. Was the success of EoN due to the fact that it didn't trade on Bond's past? Is the absence of Pierce a factor? Interesting...
Honestly, I'd expect most of those games to beat Bond regardless of those factors. Look at this list, practially all of them are either new installments of popular game series' (Need for Speed, Grand Theft Auto) or games based on current movies (King Kong, Harry Potter).
#12
Posted 15 December 2005 - 04:31 AM
#13
Posted 15 December 2005 - 05:22 AM
I think EA producing the game may have an effect too. They've cornered the market for video games over in the US and the rep they're getting isn't really a pretty one.
And to be somewhat candid I don't think EA really know how to make a truly great Bond game anyhgow. With EON being a fluke that wont be repeated anytime soon. Gamespot and IGN have given it a rating of 7.0 which is deemed fair.
Best for EA to give Bond to another company than to produce more games that will not make for good gameplay and customer satisfaction.
Up until EA published Everything or Nothing, I would have agreed. I thought all the games they released before that (relating to 007) were abysmal and or shallow rehashes of GoldenEye 007. EoN changed that though. I believe they have the ability to make a great game, but I don't think they even attempted it with FRWL - to evolve what they had. There just wasn't much effort there and I think the critics nailed them for it. Just so.
I don't think EA's rep had anything to do with the sales. They do fine with everything else.
^^^^^^^^^US SALES - NOVEMBER^^^^^^^^^^^^
1. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (Xbox)
2. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (PlayStation 2)
3. Call of Duty 2 (Xbox 360)
4. Madden NFL 06 (PlayStation 2)
5. WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2 (PlayStation 2)
6. Madden NFL 06 (Xbox 360)
7. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (PlayStation 2)
8. Mario Party 7 (GameCube)
9. 50 Cent: Bulletproof (PlayStation 2)
10. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One (PlayStation 2)
11. Need For Speed: Most Wanted (Xbox 360)
12. Soul Calibur III (PlayStation 2)
13. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi (PlayStation 2)
14. NBA Live 06 (PlayStation 2)
15. Blitz: The League (PlayStation 2)
16. Need For Speed: Most Wanted (PlayStation 2)
17. Ratchet: Deadlocked (PlayStation 2)
18. Perfect Dark Zero: Limited Edition (Xbox 360)
19. SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy Seals (PlayStation 2)
20. GUN (PlayStation 2)
Didn't even rank. How sad.
For the record, I also have the stats for the top 10 per system, and FRWL didn't rank on any of them either.
Edited by K1Bond007, 15 December 2005 - 05:25 AM.
#14
Posted 15 December 2005 - 05:51 PM
Thanks for the info K1.
#15
Posted 15 December 2005 - 06:11 PM
#16
Posted 15 December 2005 - 07:02 PM
And to be somewhat candid I don't think EA really know how to make a truly great Bond game anyhgow. With EON being a fluke that wont be repeated anytime soon. Gamespot and IGN have given it
#17
Posted 15 December 2005 - 09:31 PM
#18
Posted 16 December 2005 - 01:10 AM
#19
Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:48 AM
I imagine the reputation of the previous James Bond games could be a determining factor in whether or not someone goes out and buys a game.
#20
Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:41 PM
#21
Posted 16 December 2005 - 04:15 PM
#22
Posted 16 December 2005 - 04:55 PM
Anyone have the link to the US game chart where From Russia With Love didn't chart?
I listed it above in my post. The source is NPD (NPDfunworld.com).
Overall Top 20:
1. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (Xbox)
2. Star Wars: Battlefront 2 (PlayStation 2)
3. Call of Duty 2 (Xbox 360)
4. Madden NFL 06 (PlayStation 2)
5. WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2 (PlayStation 2)
6. Madden NFL 06 (Xbox 360)
7. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (PlayStation 2)
8. Mario Party 7 (GameCube)
9. 50 Cent: Bulletproof (PlayStation 2)
10. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One (PlayStation 2)
11. Need For Speed: Most Wanted (Xbox 360)
12. Soul Calibur III (PlayStation 2)
13. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi (PlayStation 2)
14. NBA Live 06 (PlayStation 2)
15. Blitz: The League (PlayStation 2)
16. Need For Speed: Most Wanted (PlayStation 2)
17. Ratchet: Deadlocked (PlayStation 2)
18. Perfect Dark Zero: Limited Edition (Xbox 360)
19. SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy Seals (PlayStation 2)
20. GUN (PlayStation 2)
Xbox:
1. Star Wars: Battlefront 2
2. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
3. Madden NFL 06
4. Need For Speed: Most Wanted
5. GUN
6. The Matrix: Path of Neo
7. Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
8. Blitz: The League
9. 50 Cent: Bulletproof
10. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Xbox 360:
1. Call of Duty 2
2. Madden NFL 06
3. Need For Speed: Most Wanted
4. Perfect Dark Zero: Limited Edition
5. Condemned: Criminal Origins
6. Project Gotham Racing 3
7. Perfect Dark Zero
8. Kameo: Elements of Power
9. Quake 4
10. NBA Live 06
GameCube:
1. Mario Party 7
2. Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix With Mat
3. Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
4. Shadow The Hedgehog
5. Mario Superstar Baseball
6. Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
7. LEGO: Star Wars
8. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
9. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
10. Madden NFL 06
PlayStation 2:
1. Star Wars: Battlefront 2
2. Madden NFL 06
3. WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2
4. Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
5. 50 Cent: Bulletproof
6. Call of Duty 2: Big Red One
7. Soul Calibur III
8. Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
9. NBA Live 06
10. Blitz: The League
Edited by K1Bond007, 16 December 2005 - 04:58 PM.
#23
Posted 16 December 2005 - 05:48 PM
#24
Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:30 PM
Everything or Nothing was a fine game, but Rogue Agent was terrible, and it needed to be put forth to the public that this game was better than EoN while the franchise distanced itself from Rogue Agent. I don't pity EA because they failed to do that. I have purchased, beaten, played often, and given the gift of From Russia With Love, so I did my part. I did so because I knew I would enjoy the game with the promise of the return of Sir Sean Connery. Others did not buy it because they were not given the "why buy"...the "what's in it for me" after the disappointment of Rogue Agent. So the poor sales performance falls all on EA, the marketing, and the lack of public awareness.
#26
Posted 23 December 2005 - 12:06 AM
#27
Posted 23 December 2005 - 02:53 AM
#28
Posted 23 December 2005 - 10:50 PM
#29
Posted 24 December 2005 - 03:03 AM
could this make it difficult for EA when considering to do future games based on past bond films
Let's hope they get it right with Casino Royale then. It's time for another classic James Bond game.
#30
Posted 24 December 2005 - 09:35 AM
I haven't yet seen any adverts on tv or poster on billboards. or radio spots.
Could that have an effect on the sales of the game