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[ComplimentsOfSharky]

I'll add one more. I can't stand the way that Bond treats Tibbet. The "funny" picking on him isn't funny, it's irritating and a little mean. It just grates on my nerves. McNee is such a coupe for the film and he's wasted.

I always noticed that...Roger really does pick on him and just for the hell of it.

Then he dies.

In a way, he's the sacrificial lamb - although that role moreso is Chuck Lee's - one of the most bland and uninteresting allies in the series.

Bond just has bad luck with friends I think...

Quarrel, Kerim, Jill, Tilly, Paula, Aki, what's his name in OHMSS, Tracy, Strutter, Ferrara, VJ, Tibbet, Chuck Lee, Saunders, Felix (kind of), Trevelyan, Paris, Christmas Jones probably got radiation poisoning or something...Jinx got shot dealing meth...

[Darksideoftheschwartz]

alot of people have said it had a bad screenplay. Where did you guys get the screenplay to read? is it on the internet? If it is, give mea link

[Roger Moore's Bad Facelift]

I'll add one more. I can't stand the way that Bond treats Tibbet. The "funny" picking on him isn't funny, it's irritating and a little mean. It just grates on my nerves. McNee is such a coupe for the film and he's wasted.

Must be something wrong with me.
I've always found the banter between Roger and Patrick to be highly amusing.
The scene where Roger attempts to "help" Patrick w/ the unpacking never fails to make me grin.

Edited by Roger Moore's Bad Facelift, 18 November 2005 - 11:30 PM.

[Qwerty]

Jinx got shot dealing meth...

Um...

[Mr. Larsen]

I'll add one more. I can't stand the way that Bond treats Tibbet. The "funny" picking on him isn't funny, it's irritating and a little mean. It just grates on my nerves. McNee is such a coupe for the film and he's wasted.

I always noticed that...Roger really does pick on him and just for the hell of it.

Then he dies.

In a way, he's the sacrificial lamb - although that role moreso is Chuck Lee's - one of the most bland and uninteresting allies in the series.

Bond just has bad luck with friends I think...

Quarrel, Kerim, Jill, Tilly, Paula, Aki, what's his name in OHMSS, Tracy, Strutter, Ferrara, VJ, Tibbet, Chuck Lee, Saunders, Felix (kind of), Trevelyan, Paris, Christmas Jones probably got radiation poisoning or something...Jinx got shot dealing meth...

Yea.. they can kill all these, but they cant kill Bond hehe
He has bad luck with friends, yes. Im agreed

[ChickenStu]

I dislike it because I think it's boring. End of story.

I agree. It's just bloody boring.

[rashid12]

but i would rather watch a view to a kill, it much enjoyable and its got of roger's best perfomance. i dont know why anyone any hates it so much.



probably the most far removed film from what Bond "should" be. I defy anyone to watch FRWL and AVTAK back-to-back and not sit there in disbelief, wondering if these two films are really part of the same series.

[Adler 001]

1) Sir Roger is too old.

2) Paris is not such exotic for me.

3) No fight between Bond and May Day.

4) Walken's performance isn't his best.

5) Tanya Roberts is the second fooliest Bond girl of the serie just after Britt Ekland.

6) No glamourous at all in this film.

7) I don't like Duran Duran.

[Donovan]

1.) When May Day climbs into bed with 007, I thought he should have reached down to check her out. I mean, it seemed like she might be a woman, but it wouldn't hurt to make damn sure here.

2.) Stacey Sutton: So much bounce. So much breathless dialogue. So much space under that flowing blonde hair.

3.) Title song sounds like a cement mixer in need of a lube job.

4.) Stuntmen play James Bond. Roger Moore comes in to say lines once in a while.

5.) Dr. Carl Mortener needed subtitles.

6.) I hate a plot where only Bond can stop some catastrophe from happening when all he had to do was call the Pentagon. Zorin wouldn't have enough extra clips in his Uzi to fight off the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines from popping his blimp.

7.) Roger Moore's mole next to his nose is gone. I almost didn't recognize him.

[Flash1087]

I'll add one more. I can't stand the way that Bond treats Tibbet. The "funny" picking on him isn't funny, it's irritating and a little mean. It just grates on my nerves. McNee is such a coupe for the film and he's wasted.

Must be something wrong with me.
I've always found the banter between Roger and Patrick to be highly amusing.
The scene where Roger attempts to "help" Patrick w/ the unpacking never fails to make me grin.

Thank you, it always got a laugh out of me. I, frankly, like AVTAK. A decent plot (sure, it's Goldfinger, but are we more worried about gold or computers nowadays?), Christopher Walken is, as always, great ("MORE POWAHH!"), Roger's still doing alright despite his age, and like I said, the Tibbet scenes crack me up. I left Thanksgiving dinner early to make sure I caught AVTAK on SpikeTV this year. So if I'll pass up on pie for it, it must be good.

[spynovelfan]

I wonder if they approached Grace Jones to do the title song, too. Anyone know? I think she'd have been great.

[Lazenby880]

I wonder if they approached Grace Jones to do the title song, too. Anyone know? I think she'd have been great.

snf, you are the only person I know who is a slave to Grace's rythm.

Could have been interesting though, in a horrific car crash sort of way. Bit like the film, then.

[spynovelfan]

I wonder if they approached Grace Jones to do the title song, too. Anyone know? I think she'd have been great.

snf, you are the only person I know who is a slave to Grace's rythm.

Could have been interesting though, in a horrific car crash sort of way. Bit like the film, then.

She sings better than she watches. Seriously, her version of LA VIE EN ROSE is great. She had an amazing voice, and serious style. Don't think she was right for a Bond girl - but I think she'd have been a great choice to do a Bond song.

[rashid12]

everone says that roger had stuntmen playing him in fights, and its understandable because roger was getting older, even though he still had the charm. i mean, actors aren't supposed to do the stunts. but if you want to blame it on anyone, blame it on the makers for making the stuntmen look so obvious, but personally i don't recall looking at the film and seeing a man(a stuntman) not looking like roger. also if you want to nit pick, why don't you look at thunderball, especially the scene where 007 is largo's pool and he lets a shark come out. now you can see that the person isn't sean; its so obvious and it doesn't even last for a second. just go and have a look and you'll see it.
personally i love avtak and roger doesn't look that old.

[Mr_Wint]

6.) I hate a plot where only Bond can stop some catastrophe from happening when all he had to do was call the Pentagon. Zorin wouldn't have enough extra clips in his Uzi to fight off the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines from popping his blimp.

Bond didn't know the plot until the last minute. When Bond and Stacey enter the mine they still have no idea of what Zorin is really going to do.

[Loomis]

I wonder if they approached Grace Jones to do the title song, too. Anyone know? I think she'd have been great.

snf, you are the only person I know who is a slave to Grace's rythm.

Could have been interesting though, in a horrific car crash sort of way. Bit like the film, then.

She sings better than she watches. Seriously, her version of LA VIE EN ROSE is great. She had an amazing voice, and serious style. Don't think she was right for a Bond girl - but I think she'd have been a great choice to do a Bond song.

Talking of which, I wonder whether Sade was considered for the role (and/or the song) - she was at her peak round about that time, wasn't she? And I think she did a bit of acting, too - at least, in ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS. Great voice, great looks, great style, etc.

[Flash1087]

I wonder if they approached Grace Jones to do the title song, too. Anyone know? I think she'd have been great.

snf, you are the only person I know who is a slave to Grace's rythm.

Could have been interesting though, in a horrific car crash sort of way. Bit like the film, then.

She sings better than she watches. Seriously, her version of LA VIE EN ROSE is great. She had an amazing voice, and serious style. Don't think she was right for a Bond girl - but I think she'd have been a great choice to do a Bond song.

Wait, she covered La Vie En Rose? If anyone here's read Casino Royale, that's a peculiar coincidence...

[CharlieBind]

I'll add one more. I can't stand the way that Bond treats Tibbet. The "funny" picking on him isn't funny, it's irritating and a little mean. It just grates on my nerves. McNee is such a coupe for the film and he's wasted.

Must be something wrong with me.
I've always found the banter between Roger and Patrick to be highly amusing.
The scene where Roger attempts to "help" Patrick w/ the unpacking never fails to make me grin.

Same here. It's the highlight of the movie for me and helps to give the movie some emotional punch when Tibbet dies (the most shocking the series get's in the 'eighties)

For me it's a game of two halves, the first half is hugely enjoyable, but once the action swiches to the United States, it falters. Coupled with a very weak pre-credit sequence (only 'Licence To Kill' has a weaker one), and you get Sir Roger's weakest Bond (and my second least favourite Bond movie, only 'Licence To Kill', again! is weaker in my view).

Edited by CharlieBind, 17 December 2005 - 02:41 PM.

[crheath]

1. Tanya Roberts (not even worth discussing).
2. Poor story (rip off of Superman).
3. Lousy, stupid fire truck chase, with ridiculously dumb ending (police car pile up).
4. Grace Jones becoming a good guy and helping Bond at the end (corny way to resolve a villain, obviously because she's a woman and the writers were afraid to have Bond kill off a woman).
5. Mining sequence right out of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, which came out a year earlier.
6. Too easy and predictable jokes. The scene where Bond's Russian girlfriend steals the tape of information and it turns out to be the tape with the Japanese music was way too obvious.
7. Last 15 minutes are just a rehash of the ending of Octopussy when Walken kidnaps Tanya Roberts and takes her in his blimp with Bond clinging on. Exact same thing happened in the previous film with Bond hanging on outside of the plane.
8. Very slow pace, due to John Glen being burnt out. Oops that's eight. Can't go on.

[Gabriel]

A View to a Kill will never be one of my top films, but in its flabby (plotwise;)), silly, campy way it's a lot of fun. It evokes the same feeling I get when I watch a better Carry On film. It's a thing of its time, a bit daft, but a pretty enjoyable way to kill a couple of hours.

Also, Tanya Roberts is no great shakes as Stacy Sutton, but I still fancied her. The fire engine chase is stupid, but fun. The opening titles are the last time Bond titles were outrightly cheekily sexist. I love the sleazy 80s Duran Duran tune booming out as a woman unzips her 80s top!

I know . . . I'm sad!

[BondReader 007]

007 reasons why people don't like A View to a Kill

001. Duran Duran theme song.
002. Tibbets treatment. (good thing he was on our side)
003. Roger Moore.
004. Bad screenplay.
005. Fire engine chase scene.
006. The awful draw bridge scene.
007. Roger Moore as 007!

[Qwerty]

007. Roger Moore as 007!

[CharlieBind]

007 reasons why people don't like A View to a Kill

001. Duran Duran theme song.

Except that's the most successful title song! A UK Number One (none of the other themes managed that feat) and I think it was pretty high in the American top ten too.

[Qwerty]

007 reasons why people don't like A View to a Kill

001. Duran Duran theme song.

Except that's the most successful title song! A UK Number One (none of the other themes managed that feat) and I think it was pretty high in the American top ten too.

I thought A View To A Kill was a #1 in the US...

[CharlieBind]

007 reasons why people don't like A View to a Kill

001. Duran Duran theme song.

Except that's the most successful title song! A UK Number One (none of the other themes managed that feat) and I think it was pretty high in the American top ten too.

I thought A View To A Kill was a #1 in the US...

Ah, your right, I got that back to front, it was a USA No One and UK No 2 (which is I think the highest UK chart position for a Bond theme)

[Qwerty]

And I believe you're correct about the UK chart position (A View To A Kill at #2) in regards to the initial release.

[james st.john smythe]

bond meets zorin at the reception then starts baiting him with stuff like "what about fly fishing", he may aswell of said im a spy here to rumble you

[Qwerty]

Nothing like mixing things up a bit.

[PrinceKamalKhan]

7. Last 15 minutes are just a rehash of the ending of Octopussy when Walken kidnaps Tanya Roberts and takes her in his blimp with Bond clinging on.  Exact same thing happened in the previous film with Bond hanging on outside of the plane.
8. Very slow pace, due to John Glen being burnt out.  Oops that's eight.  Can't go on.

#7. Right down to the line where the villain tells his henchman to go out and get him.
#8. I don't think it was just John Glen who was burnt out. Poor Roger, seems so tired and old throughout the piece. While he shined in Octopussy he seems to sleepwalk through A View To A Kill. I think most of the blame goes to Maibaum and Wilson who must have taken the scripts to the first 13 Bond films, tore them into hundreds of pieces and then pasted them together wherever they landed and voila! The script for AVTAK. They should have brought someone else in because the whole film felt very stale. I'm glad though that Timothy Dalton did not start as Bond with it. He deserved a much better debut Bond script and he got it with The Living Daylights.

[Bond Bug]

I loved the first half of this movie. Like most Bond movies it all goes wrong at the end.

The start is so classy, if we overlook the stupid car chase in Paris with Bond's car falling in half. Moore is Bond, the upper class English gentleman and he plays it perfectly, as he did in the start of Octopussy. For me, this is Moore at his very best. The chemistry with Patrick McNee is witty and funny. His flirting with Mayday and Tanya Roberts works. The settings are class. Bond racing back to his room over the drawbridge and into Mayday's bed. Bond cooking and shooting the bad guys at Tanya Robert's place. Bond using the air in the tyre to breath under water. All great scenes, without the need for improbable gadgets.

But the ending is rubbish. Hanging off the end of that fire-engine ladder for no reason like Buster Keaton is plain stupid. Mayday deciding to blow herself up is plain stupid. Max Zorin escaping in an airship with Zorin written on it is plain stupid. It changes from a movie for adolescents and adults in the first half, to a stupid movie for 6 year olds.

One day they will make a Bond movie, where the end is of the same quality as the start.