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Is Daniel Craig Boring?


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#31 rogermoore007

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 09:51 PM

You think he should try to at least sell himself as Bond in interviews.  I mean, he's not making many people who are unfamiliar with his work excited for him to be taking on the role.  He shouldn't be such a disinterested bore.

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I agree. I think craig is a very good actor and I support his occupation of the role but come on already. I've had enough of the bored and disinterested crap, it's high time he showed some inkling of excitement about a career-changing role.

#32 Andrew

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Posted 15 November 2005 - 10:06 PM

I think Craig is a person that would rather talk about their roles that they're currently doing than rather talk about Bond which is perfectly understandable. For example in the Kaite Couric interview Craig doesn't give much of an answer on Bond but gives a good answer when he's asked about his current film he is shooting.

Dalton was the same way. While these men are playing Bond they do have other films that they want to talk about.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 02:08 AM

Has anybody thought just maybe this will be Craig's sort of take to be in line with the new interpretation of the Bond character? Maybe he's focused on making Bond mysterious and a little hard to reach, sort of the way Fleming wrote the character in CR.

I agree it may not be the best PR move to make at this time of celebrity-soaked culture, but it would be different. Brosnan's identity was already established and it served him well, so maybe Craig is just taking a different approach.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 02:56 PM

Craig is like that.That is his personality.What is the point of analysing every aspect of Daniel.Cant you leave him .You dont have to do what you have done.You are a member of CBN but that doesnt mean youll start a thread titled "Is Daniel Craig Boring"

How about an entertaining and charismatic personality who otherwise has no acting talent.Craig is an actor he is not a PR guy.At least he is a good actor and that is why he is Bond.THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.

So just leave him alone and do something if you have lots of spare time rather than just starting silly threads.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:47 PM

THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.


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Timothy Dalton.

#36 killkenny kid

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:47 PM

Craig is like that.That is his personality.What is the point of analysing  every aspect of Daniel.Cant you leave him .You dont have to do what you have  done.You are a member of CBN but that doesnt mean youll start a thread titled "Is Daniel Craig Boring"

How about an entertaining and charismatic personality who otherwise has no acting talent.Craig is an actor he is  not a PR guy.At least he is a good actor and that is why he is Bond.THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.

So just leave him alone and do something if you have lots of spare time rather than just starting silly threads.

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o.k. :tup:

#37 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:52 PM

Craig's own personal role is important. He knew when he signed on the dotted line that the PR game and dealing with the media was a huge part of the deal, so he needs to get his act together as soon as possible. If he can win over the media and the potential audience with his personality and his attitude regarding Bond, then he will have gone a long way towards getting more bums on seats when Casino Royale is released.


I think you have said it all, Moore Not Less! Every point you made in your entire post is valid and vital to the success of Casino Royale, and therefore, to the future of the franchise.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:54 PM



THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.


Timothy Dalton.

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Wrong, Sharky. With DALTON, they got both! :tup:

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:10 PM

Craig's own personal role is important. He knew when he signed on the dotted line that the PR game and dealing with the media was a huge part of the deal, so he needs to get his act together as soon as possible. If he can win over the media and the potential audience with his personality and his attitude regarding Bond, then he will have gone a long way towards getting more bums on seats when Casino Royale is released.


I think you have said it all, Moore Not Less! Every point you made in your entire post is valid and vital to the success of Casino Royale, and therefore, to the future of the franchise.

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Thank you for the compliment, Dalton's Wendy. I am not a fan of Eon's approach to Casino Royale. I would have preferred CR to be more akin to FYEO after MR with Pierce Brosnan as 007, and no re-boot. Having said that, I have not given up all hope on CR and Daniel Craig just yet.

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:16 PM



THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.


Timothy Dalton.

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Wrong, Sharky. With DALTON, they got both! :D

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Ah touche! :tup:

#41 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 09:23 PM

Thank you for the compliment, Dalton's Wendy. I am not a fan of Eon's approach to Casino Royale. I would have preferred CR to be more akin to FYEO after MR with Pierce Brosnan as 007, and no re-boot. Having said that, I have not given up all hope on CR and Daniel Craig just yet.

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Certainly not! We still have a year to go, during which length of time, tons of good things can happen, approaches altered, et cetera.

Meanwhile, my compliment was not an idle one: in my opinion, your post was dead-on. Fans must always bear in mind that the making of movies is only partly the making of a work of art; the balance is the making of profits. To that end, all steps must be taken to ensure the satisfaction of all parties concerned.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:28 AM



THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.


Timothy Dalton.

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Wrong, Sharky. With DALTON, they got both! :tup:

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Dalton was genetically engineered to play Bond. Looks, acting, voice, the low key profile of his private life, element of mystery, perfect for playing the popular secret agent.

People talk about the shadow of Connery, it's always there, but when people now say harder edge and gritty, they think of the purest interpretation, and that is Tim Dalton, and that is what I think people are expecting from Craig more, not exactly like it, but it's the closest thing we think of.

We all have a image of what we think Bond talks and looks like, it's just gets toughers every new actor, the fanchise hasn't stopped, gonna be new fans, and old fans, all with their tastes, saying we prefer our bonds like this and that. It's a kinda painful fanchise in that respect, the passage of time is recorded all too well, it didn't seem that long ago when Goldneye was out, and I can't believe it's been like 16 years now since LTK, it's kinda frightening. I keep thinking somehow, some way, Dalton will be back as Bond, it's keep eating at me, he was too good in the role, that's the problem, tough to let go.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:37 AM

Dalton was genetically engineered to play Bond. Looks, acting, voice, the low key profile of his private life, element of mystery, perfect for playing the popular secret agent.

People talk about the shadow of Connery, it's always there, but when people now say harder edge and gritty, they think of the purest interpretation, and that is Tim Dalton, and that is what I think people are expecting from Craig more, not exactly like it, but it's the closest thing we think of.


I love your first paragraph, SEAN, my dear, and I also agree entirely with your second!

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:40 AM

Craig is like that.That is his personality.What is the point of analysing  every aspect of Daniel.Cant you leave him .You dont have to do what you have  done.You are a member of CBN but that doesnt mean youll start a thread titled "Is Daniel Craig Boring"

How about an entertaining and charismatic personality who otherwise has no acting talent.Craig is an actor he is  not a PR guy.At least he is a good actor and that is why he is Bond.THis change is a first in Bond history that they have chosen an actor instead of a looker.

So just leave him alone and do something if you have lots of spare time rather than just starting silly threads.

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I'm sorry for making a "silly" thread.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:40 AM

Dalton was genetically engineered to play Bond. Looks, acting, voice, the low key profile of his private life, element of mystery, perfect for playing the popular secret agent.

People talk about the shadow of Connery, it's always there, but when people now say harder edge and gritty, they think of the purest interpretation, and that is Tim Dalton, and that is what I think people are expecting from Craig more, not exactly like it, but it's the closest thing we think of.


I love your first paragraph, SEAN, my dear, and I also agree entirely with your second!

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Thanks and whenever I say genetically engineered to those who don't know, it was the rolling stones magazine that said that of Dalton when TLD was released, best quote ever for him in the role

#46 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 04:09 AM

I'm sorry for making a "silly" thread.

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I don't find this thread to be "silly" at all. I think that there are two posts here (killkenny kid's Post #10, and Moore Not Less' Post #30), which contain many points of which Eon would be well-advised to take note.

What may start out as a discussion of a frivolous nature can often produce the points which are most salient.

That's why companies have "brainstorming" sessions.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 05:52 AM

Hey Righty ,You dont have to say "sorry".Why should you ? What i said was the whole discussion was pointless.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:03 AM

Dear Wendy,

Companies have brainstorming sessions for critical issues only not for any issue.They never discuss issues of a " frivolous" nature.

Have you ever heard of or read about a brainstorming session on an issue such as "Is our competitor eating too much" or "Does boss Jack have too much sex"?

I havent heard of such a thing.But i have surely heard of a brainstorming session like- "How to counter the competitors high service standards."?

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 01:57 PM

As an actor he is anything but boring. Exciting, talented and cool.

In interviews, well

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 03:25 PM

[quote name='Shrublands' date='17 November 2005 - 13:57']As an actor he is anything but boring. Exciting, talented and cool.

In interviews, well

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 05:47 PM

[quote name='Shrublands' date='17 November 2005 - 08:57']As an actor he is anything but boring. Exciting, talented and cool.

In interviews, well

#52 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:29 PM

[quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='17 November 2005 - 10:25'][quote name='Shrublands' date='17 November 2005 - 13:57']As an actor he is anything but boring. Exciting, talented and cool.

In interviews, well

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:39 PM

I havent heard of such a thing.But i have surely heard of a brainstorming session like- "How to counter the competitors high service standards."?

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Is Daniel Craig boring? =

How Daniel Craig's lack of enthusiasm with regard to public relations and the media could adversely affect public opinion and ergo the revenue of the latest venture in this franchise despite the clearly evident fact that he is a badass.

:tup:

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 01:42 AM



I havent heard of such a thing.But i have surely heard of a brainstorming session like- "How to counter the competitors high service standards."?

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Is Daniel Craig boring? =

How Daniel Craig's lack of enthusiasm with regard to public relations and the media could adversely affect public opinion and ergo the revenue of the latest venture in this franchise despite the clearly evident fact that he is a badass.

:tup:

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THANK YOU, Sharky, for putting the answer into precisely the right words!

My compliments . . . Sharky! :D

#55 killkenny kid

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 01:48 AM

I'm sorry for making a "silly" thread.

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I don't find this thread to be "silly" at all. I think that there are two posts here (killkenny kid's Post #10, and Moore Not Less' Post #30), which contain many points of which Eon would be well-advised to take note.

What may start out as a discussion of a frivolous nature can often produce the points which are most salient.

That's why companies have "brainstorming" sessions.

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Thank you, thank you very much.

#56 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 02:00 AM

Thank you, thank you very much.

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You are most welcome, Double K! However, I merely stated the obvious; rather, it is we who should thank you.

Correction: it is Eon who should thank you for the suggestions contained in your original post.

Then they should avail themselves of the knowledge, and act upon it.

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 03:11 AM

THANK YOU, Sharky, for putting the answer into precisely the right words!

My compliments . . . Sharky!  :tup:

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*nods, raises glass

Quite welcome as always.

#58 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 04:14 AM

[quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='17 November 2005 - 22:11'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='18 November 2005 - 01:42']
THANK YOU, Sharky, for putting the answer into precisely the right words!

My compliments . . . Sharky!

#59 ComplimentsOfSharky

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 04:23 AM

[quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='18 November 2005 - 04:14'][quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='17 November 2005 - 22:11'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='18 November 2005 - 01:42']
THANK YOU, Sharky, for putting the answer into precisely the right words!

My compliments . . . Sharky!

#60 Dalton's Wendy

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Posted 18 November 2005 - 04:59 AM

[quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='17 November 2005 - 23:23'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='18 November 2005 - 04:14'][quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='17 November 2005 - 22:11'][quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='18 November 2005 - 01:42']
THANK YOU, Sharky, for putting the answer into precisely the right words!
My compliments . . . Sharky!