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#1 Mister Asterix

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:18 PM

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#2 Johnboy007

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:27 PM

Awesome. Once again delivering on something most of us have wanted for a long, long time.

#3 Lounge Lizard

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:32 PM

Will the fictituous country be Eastern-European? Will it be in the Middle East? Will it be a large country or a small rogue state?

I suppose the terrorism angle was inescapable, and it is surely justified... but I'm not a really a fan of the whole 'making-up-a-country game', or 'geofiction' as I believe it is called. It made LALD and LTK seem a little tacky; sending Bond to 'San Pedro' or 'Souvlakistan' or whatever just comes off as a little too Man From U.N.C.L.E.-ish to me.

#4 Atticus17F

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:34 PM

The news just keeps getting better. :)

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:34 PM

Sounds good. I don't like the ficticious country thing but you don't wanna PO some other country...Bond depends on an international market so I understand....Anyway,sounds interesting. Especially if the film sets up '22. :)

#6 Lounge Lizard

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:36 PM

Anyway,sounds interesting. Especially if the film sets up '22. :)

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There you're right. Could it be that Craig's three-picture contract is a well-rounded trilogy?

#7 Mister Asterix

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:38 PM

[mra]I wonder if the

#8 tdalton

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:41 PM

[quote name='Mister Asterix' date='21 October 2005 - 12:38'][mra]I wonder if the

#9 Jeff007

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:43 PM

I think this is the best thing that they can do. Terrorism is the new and real threat, yet it's just doesn't seem interesting enough to be in the Bond world. Bond villians have always been larger than life, not cowards, with IED's. (Improvised Explosive Devices) So, with this fictional aspect of a country being implemented, it makes the fictional villians that much more interesting. I think were right that were going to see a reocurring villian organization with Le Chiffre introducing us to the powers that will challenge Bond in the years to come. At the end of CR, "James Bond will return in...." will be more important than ever leaving us wanting more.

#10 MattofSteel

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:44 PM

I like the idea.

And I'm interested to see what spin they put on it. But I DON'T want there being a finale with 15 Nuclear Missiles pointed at something, and I don't want this "fictitious" country to be overly campy, which I'm afraid P&W might be capable of.

All in all though, awesome idea. Awesome update.

I sort of had a feeling it would be terrorist-related in some way.

#11 Tarl_Cabot

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:45 PM

Anyway,sounds interesting. Especially if the film sets up '22. :)

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There you're right. Could it be that Craig's three-picture contract is a well-rounded trilogy?

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This is great news. If they were planning a trilogy all along with 'Royale as the tentpole than the 4 yr wait will be well worth it! Babs...you won me back! :)

#12 Kingdom Come

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:46 PM

When someone reads anything approaching interesting in regards to CR storyline -please tell me and everyone else! I have yet to read anything approaching interesting.

#13 luciusgore

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:48 PM

I think the creation of a new SPECTRE-like organization makes senese, particularly given the terrorism of today. Fictional countries are a little gay though.

#14 Jim

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:49 PM

I think the creation of a new SPECTRE-like organization makes senese, particularly given the terrorism of today. Fictional countries are a little gay though.

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I have never considered the sexual preference of fictional countries, but it's an amusing notion.

Narnia is patently lesbian.

Anyway, all very interesting. Not hugely surprising but could work well.

#15 Mister Asterix

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:50 PM

[quote name='tdalton' date='21 October 2005 - 11:41'][quote name='Mister Asterix' date='21 October 2005 - 12:38'][mra]I wonder if the

#16 crheath

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:51 PM

Interesting development. Thanks for warning of "Spoilers" also. Helps for people who don't want to know what's coming.

#17 tdalton

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:52 PM

I hope that they still use SMERSH (not likely, but one can hope). They can change the organization to be an independent terrorist organization, or they can tie it to a fictitious former Soviet bloc country.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:52 PM

[quote name='Jim' date='21 October 2005 - 10:49']
[quote name='luciusgore' date='21 October 2005 - 16:48']I think the creation of a new SPECTRE-like organization makes senese, particularly given the terrorism of today. Fictional countries are a little gay though.

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could it be French or Gay? :) :)

#19 Double-Oh-Zero

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:53 PM

Well, at least the gambling isn't being used as a front for AFRICAN CONFLICT DIAMONDS this time.

Either way, I'm not entirely surprised by that news. Nor would I be if it indeed turned out to be a front for AFRICAN CONFLICT DIAMONDS.

#20 Mister Asterix

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:54 PM

I think the creation of a new SPECTRE-like organization makes senese, particularly given the terrorism of today. Fictional countries are a little gay though.

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I have never considered the sexual preference of fictional countries, but it's an amusing notion.

Narnia is patently lesbian.

Anyway, all very interesting. Not hugely surprising but could work well.

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Latvaria has tendencies toward bestiality.

#21 Jeff007

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:02 PM

Well, at least the gambling isn't being used as a front for AFRICAN CONFLICT DIAMONDS this time.

Either way, I'm not entirely surprised by that news. Nor would I be if it indeed turned out to be a front for AFRICAN CONFLICT DIAMONDS.

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lol :)

#22 ComplimentsOfSharky

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:04 PM

Nothing terribly surprising, but I hope that the location is real world, even if some 'rogue terrorist nation' is addressed as backing the new organization.

#23 luciusgore

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:09 PM

They should lose the fictitious country angle. Any small nation that backed terrorism would be invaded by George W. Bush tomorrow. Heck, even a nation that doesn't back terrorism -- but we suspect does -- will be invaded. Just make it a SPECTRE-like group based here and there, providing arms to al Quaeda.

#24 Gobi-1

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:14 PM

This is great news. I suggested this last year over at Univex in a modern day adaption of Casino Royale I posted. Check it out, it's the 11th post from the top.

http://forum.univers...ad.php?tid=5124

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:18 PM

They should lose the fictitious country angle. Any small nation that backed terrorism would be invaded by George W. Bush tomorrow. Heck, even a nation that doesn't back terrorism -- but we suspect does -- will be invaded.

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Oh, what an articulate argument... :)

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:20 PM

For the last few months it has been mentioned that my friend actor Gulshan Grover is being considered for a part in CR.His name is even on the official website (He is being considered).I was wondering if terrorism is part of the plot,then it will have some sort of Al Qaeda kind of organisation.That is the reason i feel an Indian Actor is being considered.Grover told me that there will be two villians.One will be Le Chiffre and the other will be the Russian Agency he works for.Since CR wll be updated to these times,there will be no Russian organisation.Instead it will be some sort of Middle eastern organisation like Al Qaeda on whose behalf Le Chiffre works and that is why an asian actor is being considered.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:20 PM

Might be nice if they made the terrot organisation 'The Union'. It would give me and my fellow Bensonites much to muse over for possible adaptations of RBs work. And it would give us Olivier Cesari as our new Blofeldesque figure.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:21 PM

This sounds like very good news. One problem might be the funds issue. If Le Chiffre has to win at cards, to use the winnings to fund this new organisation, then how much is he likely to win?

I ask, as I guess, (I could be wrong) that there is a limit that someone can win on a gaming table, (in one card game - otherwise the bank would be broken). So we`re not talking many millions here. Is the final winning amount going to be realistic for Le Chiffre and this new organisation to use?

Maybe it only needs a couple of million Euros to fund a small organisation who need to buy plutonim for a terrorist threat, (something along the lines of Thunderball and TWINE).

I was a bit worried that CR might just be a "little" film, a la Dr. No, but it seems the Bond producers want to not only go down the "dark and grittiness road" of the early Connery films, but also going back to a major fictitious terrorist organisation, allowing future scriptwriters to use them for almost anything related to crime, with no real terrorist organisation, (Al Quieda etc.) and no real country, (Korea) getting angry and upset by them being portrayed as evil incarnate.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:23 PM

They should lose the fictitious country angle. Just make it a SPECTRE-like group based here and there, providing arms to al Quaeda.

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As long as the movie is not set in this fictitious country, I'm okay with it. Just have M tell Bond about this new terror organization "with ties to zebba zebba" and then get on with it.

Hey, do you think this new organization will be called OCTOPUS (the SPECTRE replacement in FRWL vg)?

#30 ComplimentsOfSharky

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 05:27 PM

They should lose the fictitious country angle. Just make it a SPECTRE-like group based here and there, providing arms to al Quaeda.

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As long as the movie is not set in this fictitious country, I'm okay with it. Just have M tell Bond about this new terror organization "with ties to zebba zebba" and then get on with it.

Hey, do you think this new organization will be called OCTOPUS (the SPECTRE replacement in FRWL vg)?

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Let's not give them any ideas....hahaha...