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[DamnCoffee]

OMG! THIS IS ING BRILLIANT! THANK YOU SO MUCH MATE!

[sharpshooter]

Here's some more.

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[DamnCoffee]

I love the last two!

[Safari Suit]

Interesting, even though I doubt they're losing sleep over it:
http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080829e.php

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

FINALLY going 2 c it 2moro nite.

[Mr. Blofeld]

FINALLY going 2 c it 2moro nite.

Really?

[Mister E]

Interesting, even though I doubt they're losing sleep over it:
http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080829e.php

Not surprising since Japan really dosen't really give a crap about super hero comic books.

"Ponyo on the Cliff". The latest animated epic from acclaimed filmmaker Hayao Miyazaki ("Spirited Away," "Princess Mononoke") has pulled in a staggering $93.2 million in its first four weeks.

This isn't surprising either. Miyazaki is very overrated and naturally, especially in Japan.

Edited by Mister E, 30 August 2008 - 02:43 AM.

[Safari Suit]

Interesting, even though I doubt they're losing sleep over it:
http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080829e.php

Not surprising since Japan really dosen't really give a crap about super hero comic books.

"Ponyo on the Cliff". The latest animated epic from acclaimed filmmaker Hayao Miyazaki ("Spirited Away," "Princess Mononoke") has pulled in a staggering $93.2 million in its first four weeks.

This isn't surprising either. Miyazaki is very overrated and naturally, especially in Japan.

I don't "get" Anime/Manga full stop. I suppose cultural boundaries might be part of the problem.

[Loomis]

Interesting, even though I doubt they're losing sleep over it:
http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080829e.php

Not surprising since Japan really dosen't really give a crap about super hero comic books.

I don't know how Japan has traditionally responded to American superheroes, but I'd expected THE DARK KNIGHT to be a spectacular success in Japan, for a number of reasons.

Firstly, Japan has a long and rich tradition of masked heroes and villains (e.g. Kabuki and Noh plays), as well as the elaborate costumes of the Samurai and even the flamboyant tattoos of the modern Yakuza gangsters. Obviously, there is also Manga, which remains wildly popular.

In appearance, Ledger's Joker recalls local superstar Tadanobu Asano in ICHI THE KILLER, who in turn echoes the wild garb, piercings and outrageous hairstyles of a certain segment of Japanese youth. This leads us to various themes that Japanologists love to discuss, such as social straitjacketing and the breakdown of traditional Japanese society, and youth rebellion via clothing and grooming. For many Japanese, the Joker's terrorism may also carry uncomfortable reminders of the activities of the Aum Shinrikyo cult, best known for its 1995 sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway.

Shoko Asahara was, in some ways, a cult leader who presented himself as a superhero. "A charismatic father figure, he claimed his devotees could read minds and levitate, and thousands of alienated young Japanese, raised on comic-book superheroes, believed him." See the following article: http://www.guardian....5/features11.g2

As for Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent, they embody very Japanese ideas of duty and sacrifice, and also display the frustrations of individuals trapped within the rather rigid and autocratic systems that they have dedicated themselves to upholding. Dent's refusal of painkillers and skin grafts seems to be in the spirit of Seppuku, the suicide ritual of the Samurai, while, at the end of the film, Wayne/Batman performs an extraordinary act of self-sacrifice for the greater good that brings to mind the Kamikaze pilots. Also, in Wayne's relationships with Alfred and Lucius Fox, there are echoes of the traditional Senpai/Kōhai arrangement whereby male elders mentor their juniors.

Finally, the Japanese most certainly do not shy away from dark themes, extreme violence and visual flamboyance in their cinema (with Godzilla and his cohorts repeatedly stomping cities to dust and even modern mainstream hits like ALL ABOUT LILY CHOU-CHOU being both dark and visually experimental) or in their comic books.

Really, if TDK hasn't been a success in Japan, I'm very surprised, because if ever there was a Hollywood blockbuster that seemed designed to do amazing business over there, this is it.

[HildebrandRarity]

Interesting, even though I doubt they're losing sleep over it:
http://www.darkhoriz...s08/080829e.php

Not surprising since Japan really dosen't really give a crap about super hero comic books.

I don't know how Japan has traditionally responded to American superheroes, but I'd expected THE DARK KNIGHT to be a spectacular success in Japan, for a number of reasons.

....

Really, if TDK hasn't been a success in Japan, I'm very surprised, because if ever there was a Hollywood blockbuster that seemed designed to do amazing business over there, this is it.

I hope you didn't mortgage the house on your Japanese gambit, loomy!

[Mr. Blofeld]

I wonder how TDK is doing in South Korea, the land of Oldboy...

[Mister E]

I suppose cultural boundaries might be part of the problem.

Exactly. Yes the Japanese have tales of heros and villians but they have they're own style.

[Conlazmoodalbrocra]

My rankings:
1. Batman Begins
2. The Dark Knight
3. Batman (1989)
4. Batman Forever
5. Batman Returns
6. Batman and Robin (1997)
7. Batman (1966)

I haven't seen Batman (1943) or Batman and Robin (1949) so didn't include them in my rankings.

Edited by Conlazmoodalbrocra, 31 August 2008 - 01:21 PM.

[dodge]

The word today is: TDK has become the second film in Hollywood history to top $500 million at the box office. AND...the film hit that mark in just over six weeks, half the time it took Titanic, which reached $500 million in a just over 3 months.

Anyone willing to bet now that it whips TT?

[JackWade]

It won't come close to TITANIC.

TITANIC had legs - freakishly long giant legs. Look at its weekend box office numbers... it managed to pull in $10 million or more every weekend over the course of a few months. THE DARK KNIGHT won't do that. It's already starting to bottom out.

THE DARK KNIGHT will top around $530 million domestically and maybe earn enough internationally to top $1 billion worldwide. No way in hell does it earn $70 million more in North America and $800 million more overall to touch TITANIC ($600 million something domestic and $1.8 billion worldwide).

Edited by JackWade, 01 September 2008 - 08:54 PM.

[sharpshooter]

I picked up TDK movie novelization today. I'm looking forward to seeing how Dennis O'Neil adapts the film to the print medium, and how he handles Dent's overall arc. He begins the book with a flashback to the Begins monorail clash, with Batman choosing not to save Ra's. I wish he just ignored this, because the Batman I know would have saved him.

[dodge]

It won't come close to TITANIC.

TITANIC had legs - freakishly long giant legs. Look at its weekend box office numbers... it managed to pull in $10 million or more every weekend over the course of a few months. THE DARK KNIGHT won't do that. It's already starting to bottom out.

THE DARK KNIGHT will top around $530 million domestically and maybe earn enough internationally to top $1 billion worldwide. No way in hell does it earn $70 million more in North America and $800 million more overall to touch TITANIC ($600 million something domestic and $1.8 billion worldwide).

You sound a little too sure of yourself. But we'll find out soon enough.

[HildebrandRarity]

The word today is: TDK has become the second film in Hollywood history to top $500 million at the box office. AND...the film hit that mark in just over six weeks, half the time it took Titanic, which reached $500 million in a just over 3 months.

Anyone willing to bet now that it whips TT?

Yes. I'll bet against you, i.e that it won't whip TT. How much are willing to ante up? C'mon. Put your money where your mouth is, bud!

[Mister Asterix]

Yes, but can is top Get Smart in the non-USA Box Office.

Gotta love the IMDb.

[dodge]

The word today is: TDK has become the second film in Hollywood history to top $500 million at the box office. AND...the film hit that mark in just over six weeks, half the time it took Titanic, which reached $500 million in a just over 3 months.

Anyone willing to bet now that it whips TT?

Yes. I'll bet against you, i.e that it won't whip TT. How much are willing to ante up? C'mon. Put your money where your mouth is, bud!

Naw, you'd welsh.

[Harmsway]

Warner Bros. is re-releasing THE DARK KNIGHT in January to get it in as part of the Oscar selection:

Warner Bros. plans Dark Knight re-release

[HildebrandRarity]

The word today is: TDK has become the second film in Hollywood history to top $500 million at the box office. AND...the film hit that mark in just over six weeks, half the time it took Titanic, which reached $500 million in a just over 3 months.

Anyone willing to bet now that it whips TT?

Yes. I'll bet against you, i.e that it won't whip TT. How much are willing to ante up? C'mon. Put your money where your mouth is, bud!

Naw, you'd welsh.

You're just like all the others who've chickened out, my friend.

It was your suggestion to bet.

Chicken!

[kyleargyle]

It won't beat Titanic...I'm sure the studios are pretty anxious right now to pull the movie from theaters so they can get to work on selling the DVD version.

[dodge]

The word today is: TDK has become the second film in Hollywood history to top $500 million at the box office. AND...the film hit that mark in just over six weeks, half the time it took Titanic, which reached $500 million in a just over 3 months.

Anyone willing to bet now that it whips TT?

Yes. I'll bet against you, i.e that it won't whip TT. How much are willing to ante up? C'mon. Put your money where your mouth is, bud!

Naw, you'd welsh.

You're just like all the others who've chickened out, my friend.

It was your suggestion to bet.
Chicken!

But I never said that I wanted to bet--I just asked if you were willing!
A gentman's wager. Or, if you like, dinner on me when I get to your town. If you lose, you owe me nothing. For you--and for you only--I repeat: dinner on me if it doesn't top TT when it's totally finished in theaters.

[DamnCoffee]

OMFG!

http://www.dvdactive...ark-knight.html

[Tarl_Cabot]

That's gonna sell like cold beer the day prohibition ended.

[sharpshooter]

The Jokerised back cover is a nice touch. I'll probably get the two disc DVD with the batpod cover.

[sharpshooter]

Get a load of this:

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[dodge]

That's gonna sell like cold beer the day prohibition ended.

Yes, but will its sales count toward B/O take...so I don't have to buy Hilly dinner?

[Publius]

I think it would have been better, and made more sense given the citywide scope of the film, to go with this poster as the cover instead.

The Jokerised back cover is a nice touch. I'll probably get the two disc DVD with the batpod cover.

Agreed there. Probably my favorite back cover ever.