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[stamper]

I just watched again all Brosnan 007 outings in order.

I think now the series should have ended in 1989. The problem is not the actors, but the fact that Cubby is gone.

There is 600 % more class, wit, ideas, action, glamour, cool sets etc in even the worst Broccoli produced Bond, than in any of the last 4 movies, and I do include Goldeneye.

I never thought that one day, I would actually enjoy reviewing again both Moore and Dalton movies (which I hated when they were out, well,compared to Sean that is).

I do hope some of the glam will be back next time around, but I fear they will just do "James Bourne".

[RJJB]

The Living Daylights is one of the most intelligent movies in the series. Lord knows that after the preceding seven live action cartoons, it was a welcome relief to get back to a more serious approach. It may have been a bit smaller in scope than the "destroy the world" cliche plots, but certainly did not disappoint. Nice to see James Bond be a real threat again instead of an ineffective fop.

[BondReader 007]

I agree, it was refreshing. Better than anything Roger Moore ever did. It was the beginning of the better more serious Bond movies.

[Dalton's Wendy]

[quote name='ACE' date='13 January 2006 - 13:52'][quote name='Donovan' date='13 January 2006 - 18:28']The only problem I have with TLD is Afghanistan. Once we get there, the plot loses traction. Diamonds? Opium? Mujahadeen?

[ACE]

[quote name='Dalton's Wendy' date='15 January 2006 - 12:05'][quote name='ACE' date='13 January 2006 - 13:52'][quote name='Donovan' date='13 January 2006 - 18:28']The only problem I have with TLD is Afghanistan. Once we get there, the plot loses traction. Diamonds? Opium? Mujahadeen? 

[/quote]

Agree.

[/quote]

Of course I agree with both you learned gentlemen, but, ACE, did you not make that very suggestion in your point number 7? I inferred that one of your suggested changes was the elimination (or at least the reduction) of the Afghanistan scenes.

"Different Daylights
Like all wise-after-the-event reviews, I suggest the following changes:

7) Koskov and Whitaker extolling their plan to raise funds in Afganistan to fund Necros

[Dalton's Wendy]

Well observed, DW.

Ha! Thank you, ACE!

[hcmv007]

Gotta disagree w/ stamper on ending the series after 1989, i think we need Bond today, espiecially now

BTW-The Living Daylights was the first Bond film i saw in the theaters, and is one of my favorites. Anybody got a DVD of it for sale? Cause I am looking for it.

[Dalton's Wendy]

Gotta disagree w/ stamper on ending the series after 1989, i think we need Bond today, espiecially now

BTW-The Living Daylights was the first Bond film i saw in the theaters, and is one of my favorites.  Anybody got a DVD of it for sale?  Cause I am looking for it.

I can get you one, hcmv007, Sweetie! Send me a pm.

[stamper]

That Dalton guy sucked big time.
Where were the jokes?

IN THE CENTER CHANNEL OF YOUR 5.1 EQUIPMENT, IT HELPS TO TURN THE CENTER CHANNEL ON

The hot ladies?

ON SCREEN IN THE OPENING CREDITS, THE VILLAINS WOMEN, THE BOND GIRL... BUT OF COURSE IF DAME JUDI IS YOUR DEFINITION OF A HOT LADY, YOU SHOULD BE DISAPPOINTED

The super gadgets?

OK WE GOT AN ASTON MARTIN, WITH LASER VISION, ROCKETS, TRANSFORMABLE INTO SKIING VEHICULE, AND THAT IS JUST ABOUT 5MN OF FILM OF COURSE IF YOU GOT THE ROUGH CUT BOOTLEG TAPE, ALL THE ACTION SCENES ARE MISSING

The big bases?

DITTO

I couldn't follow what the hell was going on.

I KNOW A VERY GOOD OPTICIAN

That blonde piece wasn't the only one shooting blanks.
Think the Bondmakers were too!

AND SO DO YOU

[Royal Dalton]

I take it you didn't read the entire thread, Stamper?

[Streetworker]

There is 600 % more class, wit, ideas, action, glamour, cool sets etc in even the worst Broccoli produced Bond, than in any of the last 4 movies, and I do include Goldeneye.

I'm curious how you came to this calculation. Not 599%, or 601%, but on the nose at 600%. Could you provide your calculations please as I'm fascinated (and happen to disagree with you by, oh, let's call it 87.77% shall we...?)

[stamper]

Yes I did read the thread, my answer is tongue in chic too !

600 % how : simple, count the number of great location shot for TLD, then count the number of great location catched by the cinemascope in DAD (it's faster). There is a ratio of a hundred shots to 600 shot in TLD !

[Seannery]

The only problem I have with TLD is Afghanistan. Once we get there, the plot loses traction. Diamonds? Opium? Mujahadeen? ...But when you look at a film like "Rambo III" (yes, a dumb film) you have to admit their presentation of Soviet-controlled Afghanistan is darker and more brutal...i.e. realistic.

Agree.

Acey(Milly) you little devil--you knew that was going blow the whole time! You forced at least 10 to have heart attacks with this thread. Nice little slow explosion.


Very funny. Didn't notice this thread before--as soon as I began reading I knew what you were up to Mr. Satirical. You even had Zen, Loomis and Spy going for a while.

Got any more toys in that suit case of yours!

[Seannery]

The only problem I have with TLD is Afghanistan. Once we get there, the plot loses traction. Diamonds? Opium? Mujahadeen? ...But when you look at a film like "Rambo III" (yes, a dumb film) you have to admit their presentation of Soviet-controlled Afghanistan is darker and more brutal...i.e. realistic.

Agree.

Acey(Milly) you little devil--you knew that was going blow the whole time! You forced at least 10 to have heart attacks with this thread. Nice little slow explosion.


Very funny. Didn't notice this thread before--as soon as I began reading I knew what you were up to Mr. Satirical. You even had Zen, Loomis and Spy going for a while.

Got any more toys in that suit case of yours!

Here's my reference clue ACE(or anyone else):


Here's another clue for you all...........The walrus was Paul. Oops wrong clue.



The clue is the movie referenced has a strong Bond connection.

[ACE]

No, don't get it - Help, the Beatles movie?

Check your PM, Seannery!

ACE

[Major Bloodnok]

You know, I hate that this thread is still going, even though I know ACE was being facetious when he started it. I love that movie. Love everything about it. Even after they get to Afganistan. I think it's a better movie than anything Pierce did and equal to the very best of Moore's films.

Okay, this is me calming down now.

[ACE]

I'm shocked it is still going, too.
It is so dated and emanates from a time when there were so many "I hate threads..."

This was a direct response to a fatuous and disingenuous similar thread about Goldfinger.

Anyway, perhaps the title could be changed by those good people who run CBn?

Can I get a witness?

[Jim]

I'm shocked it is still going, too.
It is so dated and emanates from a time when there were so many "I hate threads..."

This was a direct response to a fatuous and disingenuous similar thread about Goldfinger.

Anyway, perhaps the title could be changed by those good people who run CBn?

Can I get a witness?

To read is to obey. Although if anyone can think of a snappier title (or sub-title, other than "Get sex with weasels here") there's a prize involved*

*big fib

[ACE]

"The Dalton Debate"

"Dumb and Dangerous To Diss Dalton and Daylights on Dis Site"

"Sorry Old Chap, I'm Sure You Understand"

"The Theory And Practice of Dalton"

"Daylights Dissected. Without anaesthetic."

And I'm spent!

[Jim]

And I'm spent!

Hope you didn't spend too much.

Y'know, there's huge power in this role. The number of threads the titles of which I could change to "Baffling pseudo-Dating Agency Rubbish"...

...and may yet be tempted to.

[ACE]

And I'm spent!

Hope you didn't spend too much.

Y'know, there's huge power in this role. The number of threads the titles of which I could change to "Baffling pseudo-Dating Agency Rubbish"...

...and may yet be tempted to.

You keep stroking that pussy, Jim.

Do the team members of CBn communicate like Carver and his golden retrievers by large, video conference screens in a cavernous, angled-ceiling-ed gun-metal and concrete chamber with lots of gadgets. Oh, please tell me that how it's run. Tell me that's why this is my preferred Bond forum. Please say you live it!

[Jim]

And I'm spent!

Hope you didn't spend too much.

Y'know, there's huge power in this role. The number of threads the titles of which I could change to "Baffling pseudo-Dating Agency Rubbish"...

...and may yet be tempted to.

You keep stroking that pussy, Jim.

Do the team members of CBn communicate like Carver and his golden retrievers by large, video conference screens in a cavernous, angled-ceiling-ed gun-metal and concrete chamber with lots of gadgets. Oh, please tell me that how it's run. Tell me that's why this is my preferred Bond forum. Please say you live it!

Yes, although gunmetal is soooo sixties - it's a nice shade of fuschia with bronze and heliotrope scatter cushions.

But those who displease us are fried in their chairs. So watch it, sonny.

[ACE]

Yes, although gunmetal is soooo sixties - it's a nice shade of fuschia with bronze and heliotrope scatter cushions.

Oooh! Laverly!

But those who displease us are fried in their chairs. So watch it, sonny.

Yes, No.12.

BTW, I felt like the crew of the Millenium Falcon when they go looking for Alderan and find an asteroid field. The planet has been destroyed.

So has the ridiculous title to this thread. Well done for its destruction and punish that idiot who started it in the first place.

Or at least send him to the Bond Police.

[Seannery]

No, don't get it - Help, the Beatles movie?

Check your PM, Seannery!

ACE

Well off to obscure reference jail I go.


ACE the movie I was referencing with the strong Bond connection is:
















Force 10 from Naverone--directed by Guy Hamilton with Robert Shaw, Barbara Bach, Richard Kiel and Edward Fox. It's not exact quotes but paraphrasing from memory. Fox played Miller(Shaw at times called him Milly) an explosives expert with a suitcase full of nasties and in the end he pulled off a suprise slow explosion.

[ACE]

Would never have got that.
Not even if I'd spent as much time in the bottom of the ocean as Haley Joel Osment in AI.
No.

Broadsword calling Danny Boy...

Seannery, you're too good.

[Major Bloodnok]

Sorry Seanerry. I was with you, but it appears we are now on the wrong side of the river.

And so we are in for a long walk home.

[Seannery]

Would never have got that.
Not even if I'd spent as much time in the bottom of the ocean as Haley Joel Osment in AI.
No.

Broadsword calling Danny Boy...

Seannery, you're too good.

Ah.....too obscure then. I did give the hint that, "you forced 10 to have heart attacks." Next time i'll need to do better.


As to yours ACE--The great Richard Burton while behind enemy lines calling London I believe in one of my favorite flicks named Where Eagles Dare.

[Seannery]

Sorry Seanerry. I was with you, but it appears we are now on the wrong side of the river.

And so we are in for a long walk home.

Very good Major Bloodnok--now clue in the music and end credits as what is left of Force 10 slowly gets up.

[Stephen Spotswood]

With the world so terrified of terrorists today, maybe we need more of Bond, not less. At least in the film world the situation would be under control in about two hours and forty-five minutes.

[tdalton]

The Living Daylights, IMO, is without a doubt the best film in the franchise. I think what makes it so great is that it follows the traditional Bond formula, but does just about every aspect of it perfectly and does it in a different enough way so that it doesn't feel like a cookie-cutter film like some of the other films in the franchise (not that there's anything wrong with that).