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[Byron]

We've had all types of enemies for James Bond to take down, but i think a good one would involve the Burma/Myanmar Military dictatorship in some form.

Unfortunately another military dictatorship North Korea was just featured in DAD so maybe Burma could be used down the track.

Burma/Myanmar and the capital Rangoon would also be a beautiful and exotic setting for a Bond film.

What other enemies could James Bond take on?

[bryonalston]

Bond should take on the head of an international crime syndicate headed in South Africa (the "Crime Capital of the World" ever since 1994, when the end of Apartheid weakened border control laws in South Africa.

The head of this organization has put out a hit on a certain man named The Cypher who has stolen millions of dollars to start a chain of brothels masquerading as legitimate hotels. When the British Secret Service gets involved in the matter, he dispatches his top agent, who is also a mole in MI6, Vesper Lynd to destroy 007's operation and to kill The Cypher. She succeeds at killing him, but ends up falling for 007, so she kills herself when Bond discovers she is actually a traitor. Bond travels to South Africa to take down the organization, but discovers that he is actually subject to a manhunt and is on a list of various government officials and political figures that are to be assassinated.

[ACE]

Good thread, Byron!

Suggested Bond film baddies:

1) Middle-Eastern terrorists (but non-Islamic and strictly apolitical)
2) Oil/Nuclear energy barons
3) Radical environmental groups
4) US militia/military-industrial-complex types
5) Mafia/organized crime figures
6) SPECTRE and Blofeld (yes, you can have them now - Eon/Sony own all)

Just one thing. Can we stop having a stiff-arsed Brit play the villain? Let's get back to some really good Euro-trash baddies with interesting accents or some hard-headed Yanks itching to give Bond a Brooklyn Stomping.

ACE

[The Richmond Spy]

Bond should take on the head of an international crime syndicate headed in South Africa (the "Crime Capital of the World" ever since 1994, when the end of Apartheid weakened border control laws in South Africa.

The head of this organization has put out a hit on a certain man named The Cypher who has stolen millions of dollars to start a chain of brothels masquerading as legitimate hotels. When the British Secret Service gets involved in the matter, he dispatches his top agent, who is also a mole in MI6, Vesper Lynd to destroy 007's operation and to kill The Cypher. She succeeds at killing him, but ends up falling for 007, so she kills herself when Bond discovers she is actually a traitor. Bond travels to South Africa to take down the organization, but discovers that he is actually subject to a manhunt and is on a list of various government officials and political figures that are to be assassinated.

Sounds like a great film for Dalton to make one last appearance....unless Pierce wants it.

Edited by The Richmond Spy, 12 August 2005 - 12:45 AM.

[bryonalston]

It actually sounds like a good first film for Visnjic (who would be pretty close to Dalton, in the sense of being the shy, introverted type Bond.

[Max Zorin]

I remember a while back when Pierce's next film (which turned out to be DAD, I think) was supposed to take place in Ireland, with the villain being an IRA terrorist, or some such thing. I also remember hearing Denis Leary was rumoured to be up for the role. I think something like that could be kinda cool. Either way, Leary'd make a bad villain.

[Qwerty]

6) SPECTRE and Blofeld (yes, you can have them now - Eon/Sony own all)

Big question is will it ever happen though.

[K1Bond007]

6) SPECTRE and Blofeld (yes, you can have them now - Eon/Sony own all)

Why do people believe this? McClory still owns the film rights to Thunderball. It'll never happen till the man is dead.

[ACE]

6) SPECTRE and Blofeld (yes, you can have them now - Eon/Sony own all)

Why do people believe this? McClory still owns the film rights to Thunderball. It'll never happen till the man is dead.

I was under the impression that McClory sold his rights to Sony who then lost them to MGM is the most recent court case.

Why do you still say that McClory retains film rights?

Where have I gone wrong?

ACE

[wibg]

How about the son of a very wealthy oil baron who, his father, dies mysteriously. The son takes over the family empire and invests heavily in major western and eastern corporations and using profits to build certain countries that, put it this way, have a deep, abiding hatred for western interests. The sirpent of evil does not stop there; the son is supported by a very sinister organization bent on bringing western society....to it's knees and "this" organization is far worst than......SPECTRE!!!

Edited by wibg, 14 August 2005 - 03:05 AM.

[Johnboy007]

A private, non-political world criminal organization would be nice. A "terrorist" for hire scenario.

Also, renegade Russian generals or Neo-Nazis would be interesting.

[Donovan]

I like the idea of Jack and Seraffimo Spang finally making it to the big screen. They don't have to be mob bosses. And Richard Maibaum's hilarious line (written when it was considered to have Goldfinger's twin brother be the bad guy in "DAF") can even be used: "I think you knew my brother [Seraffimo]. Mother always said he was a bit retarded."

[bryonalston]

I like that idea also Donovan. 'The Spangled Mob' can replace SMERSH in Casino Royale as the organization that Le Chiffre ripped off. Since DAF took place in French Guinea (which doesn't exist anymore) they could easily move to story to South Africa and change the two brothers' plot from diamond smuggling to something else. According to Wikipedia:

"Since South Africa relaxed its border controls after the demise of apartheid, international crime syndicates have entered the country and a large proportion of the world's drug trade flows through the country. South Africa is also the fourth-largest producer of marijuana in the world."

Even though drug trafficking might be a little cliche, there could be some other crime related plot device to use (assuming the Spangled Mob is made into a larger crime organization instead of some small-time hoods.)

[pgram]

Although I 'm not actually suggesting this, have you ever thought of Kamran Shah returning as a villain? A former friend, whom the west assisted as an Afghan mujahedin leader against the Soviets, now turned against the west as a global terrorist group leader... Rings a bell, right?

[Frankie]

Russians have always been intiguing enemies in Bond stories. I think that shoul continue. In fact I would love to see SMERSH revived. With the USSR no longer there,SMERSH can no longer be a state-run organization. But it could be a new SMERSH revived as a brainchild of a Blofeld-like former SMERSH executive. The new SMERSH would be basically another SPECTRE in it's Modus Operandi. It could have ties with the Russian Mafia, international terrorist organizations and rogue dictatorships. That would open up a lot of political intrigue possibilities. Also, if Bond movies want to rip off some successful idea, why not rip off their old SPECTRE idea. I believe in this set up so much that I'm willing not to claim any money from EON if they want to use it. Are you listening EON?!

[Frankie]

Russians have always been intiguing enemies in Bond stories. I think that should continue. In fact I would love to see SMERSH revived..... I'm willing not to claim any money from EON if they want to use it. Are you listening EON?!

Actually Casino Royale would be an ideal movie in which strong indications of a SMERSH revival could be given. The perfect name for the Next Bond flick could be "Death to Spies" which is English translation of "Smyert Shpionam" that the name SMERSH is born out of.

Edited by Frankie, 10 October 2005 - 08:40 PM.

[Simon Beavis]

My proposal: A group of five influential power brokers that would be a multi-film threat. The first film, the guest villain would approach the five (seen only in shadow), convincing them that his goals coincides with theirs. Bond defeats the villain, but "the five" are still out there. When whoever is playing Bond in this film cycle is ready to call it a day, his final entry would have him shutting these guys down for good.

As far as actors to play future villains:

Arnold Vosloo
David Anders (Sark from Alias)
Peter Storemare (physically imposing guy, would make a good henchman)
Paul Blackhorne (the main terrorist during the third season of 24)
Patrick Stewart
Nicholas Lea (Krycek from The X-Files
Willem Dafoe (Everything or Nothing showed he could do it)
David Warner (one of my favorite villains, he might be getting a little old, but he's still got a sinister voice)

Edited by Simon Beavis, 04 November 2005 - 05:03 AM.

[DavidSomerset]

How about Bond against Telemarketers? Or a Multi level Marketing company?

[Simon Beavis]

How about Bond against Telemarketers? Or a Multi level Marketing company?

Telemarketers that kill people? Doctor Who could probably pull that off.


How about Mr. Burns from The Simpsons? Smithers could be the henchman.

[DavidSomerset]

How about Bond against Telemarketers? Or a Multi level Marketing company?

Telemarketers that kill people? Doctor Who could probably pull that off.


How about Mr. Burns from The Simpsons? Smithers could be the henchman.

It could be a worldwide network of telemarketers who call up people and send zappa rays through the phone lines. This zaps the brains and makes drones out of the customer. Bond is sent to investigate because M's husband is changed to a drone. The headquarters of this organization would be a base in Antartica and the henchmen could be penguins with frikking lasers and heat seeking missiles. And for realism (the new crap trend in Bond) we could have a 5 minute Discovery channel documentary about penguins with Q explaining about the mating habits of the Emperor Penguin. BTW the Bond chick is a Discovery channel presenter/Greenpeace activist/peguin scientist who happens to be in Antartica to check why penguins have these frikking lasers.

[Mr Malcolm]

A very small part of me thinks it would be cool to have Bond fighting vampires. However, I might be just a little bit miffed if that actually happened...

As to what/who I'd really like to see as villains, I'd like to see an older female villain, one that doesn't end up sleeping with Bond. She could still be seductive though. Kathleen Turner as Bond villain anyone?

The other idea I had is a mad religious cult led by a reclusive millionaire; I was thinking along the lines of them being very loosely based on someone like L Ron Hubbard (in the same way Carver in TND was a bit like Rupert Murdoch; please don't sue me!). I know Gardner sort of did this in Scorpius, but then Valentine/Scorpius was just using the cultists as a means to an end; using suicide bombers would also be a bit too close to the bone, so I would have the cult use a different (and no less dangerous) plot.

[Gabe Vieira]

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PS: Even if you did get the answers right, I will give you no money. I barely have fifty bucks in my pocket.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

How about Bond against Telemarketers? Or a Multi level Marketing company?

Telemarketers that kill people? Doctor Who could probably pull that off.


How about Mr. Burns from The Simpsons? Smithers could be the henchman.

It could be a worldwide network of telemarketers who call up people and send zappa rays through the phone lines. This zaps the brains and makes drones out of the customer. Bond is sent to investigate because M's husband is changed to a drone. The headquarters of this organization would be a base in Antartica and the henchmen could be penguins with frikking lasers and heat seeking missiles. And for realism (the new crap trend in Bond) we could have a 5 minute Discovery channel documentary about penguins with Q explaining about the mating habits of the Emperor Penguin. BTW the Bond chick is a Discovery channel presenter/Greenpeace activist/peguin scientist who happens to be in Antartica to check why penguins have these frikking lasers.

I really thought we couldn't sink any lower than DAD....but that might just take the cake.

[Qwerty]

How about Bond against Telemarketers?

[Mr Malcolm]

I know it says future enemies, but how about a past one? I'm specifically thinking of Irma Bunt. She was last seen shooting Tracy at the end of OHMSS, and then mysteriously disappeared.

Does anyone want to see her back in a future Bond film? It might be cool seeing her return to menace Bond, but given that so much time's past, it might be too much of a step backward. Any thoughts on this?

[booyeah_]

I know it says future enemies, but how about a past one?  I'm specifically thinking of Irma Bunt.  She was last seen shooting Tracy at the end of OHMSS, and then mysteriously disappeared.

Does anyone want to see her back in a future Bond film?  It might be cool seeing her return to menace Bond, but given that so much time's past, it might be too much of a step backward.  Any thoughts on this?

Ala "Blast From the Past"? That would be great to see on film; but remember P&W and Campbell are calling the shots for now. So I'd expect a DAD/TND like movies until new creative talent is hired.

[booyeah_]

We've had all types of enemies for James Bond to take down, but i think a good one would involve the Burma/Myanmar Military dictatorship in some form.

Unfortunately another military dictatorship North Korea was just featured in DAD so maybe Burma could be used down the track.

Burma/Myanmar and the capital Rangoon would also be a beautiful and exotic setting for a Bond film.

What other enemies could James Bond take on?

I like the idea of a dictator(like Kananga, perhaps with a more ironed fist). I always thought real life meglomaniacs like Idi Amin would be just the kind of person Bond would face off against.

[Gri007]

I think it would be good to have Baron Samedi back. Afterall he never dies. Also he was quite a good character

[YOLT]

US President: G.W.Bush

Like all the other 007s I am sure Craig is a supporter of the left wing and the Democrats.

[tdalton]

I know it says future enemies, but how about a past one?  I'm specifically thinking of Irma Bunt.  She was last seen shooting Tracy at the end of OHMSS, and then mysteriously disappeared.

Does anyone want to see her back in a future Bond film?  It might be cool seeing her return to menace Bond, but given that so much time's past, it might be too much of a step backward.  Any thoughts on this?

That would be a great idea to have her back as a villain in a Bond film. Maybe we would finally get the revenge story that we should have gotten when they did DAF, but if they were to go through with a complete reboot of the series, then I don't know if it would work. I would love to see it, though.