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Daniel Craig a serious contender after all?


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#121 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:40 PM

[quote name='kevrichardson' date='4 May 2005 - 13:36'][quote name='Skudor' date='3 May 2005 - 16:29']I guess I can see how people make the leap from Clive Owen to Daniel Craig - hard-ish edge actors in, genearally speaking, the right category for the Bond job.

#122 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:40 PM

He does not look anything like James Bond and I fear would alienate a huge fan base.

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Well, I won't disagree with that - heck, I think there are very few who would. However, I think it's safe to say that - stunningly - Craig is (or was) a very serious contender for the Bond role after all.

"It was a surreal time to have the studio phoning you up saying you've got the job...." Seems Sony (or would it have been MGM? Never mind) actually offered him the role. Which is something I find very exciting, because it suggests that the studio is prepared to take pretty darn huge risks with the franchise. But, surprisingly, it contradicts earlier rumours that Sony favoured Brosnan or Owen, with Eon wanting Craig. Y'know, conservative big studio that just wants to push out product pandering to the lowest common denominator, versus "indie" production company with artistic integrity (Eon). Sony not only pushing for Craig but actually telling him the job was his is definitely not the way you'd have expected it to go. I thought that Craig was, at best, the preferred candidate of Broccoli and/or Wilson, and that Sony wouldn't even entertain the idea of sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into launching this - I'm sorry - less-than-incredibly-handsome guy as James Bond over a series of would-be blockbusters. Seems I was wrong. Glad I was.

#123 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:44 PM

But are we sure he was in the running for Bond? It could have been another role.

#124 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:54 PM

But are we sure he was in the running for Bond? It could have been another role.

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Granted, but let's have another look at Craig's words:

Daniel Craig spoke at length about the Casino Royale rumors. "It was a surreal time to have the studio phoning you up saying you've got the job and then the Broccolis saying nothing. ... I just let it go. I'm a big believer that if they want you

#125 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:00 PM

[quote name='Loomis' date='4 May 2005 - 13:54'][quote name='Skudor' date='4 May 2005 - 12:44']But are we sure he was in the running for Bond? It could have been another role.

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Granted, but let's have another look at Craig's words:

Daniel Craig spoke at length about the Casino Royale rumors. "It was a surreal time to have the studio phoning you up saying you've got the job and then the Broccolis saying nothing. ... I just let it go. I'm a big believer that if they want you

#126 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:05 PM

Whatever else one might say about him, he would be a radical change from the norm.

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Very true, but maybe - just maybe - that's precisely what The Powers That Be (or some of The Powers That Be) actually want at this point.

#127 Mr. Somerset

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:07 PM

Sounds like the new MGM is really trying to run the show without much imput from Mike and Barb! I was under the impression it was the other way round, Barbara was keen on Craig, but MGM wasn't. Oh, well. Cubby had trouble finding Moore replacements several times. If only he were here now, I think we'd have our Bond.....and a new film every TWO years.

#128 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:13 PM

Sounds like the new MGM is really trying to run the show without much imput from Mike and Barb! I was under the impression it was the other way round, Barbara was keen on Craig, but MGM wasn't. Oh, well. Cubby had trouble finding Moore replacements several times. If only he were here now, I think we'd have our Bond.....and a new film every TWO years.

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I would have assumed it was Babs pushing for Craig as well if they know each other (although knowing each other socially doesn't really mean that much - unless you have very dirty mind). Either way, my understanding was that Eon propose the actor and MGM/Sony have to agree, not the other way around. But I guess that in real life anything goes.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:18 PM

I thought that Craig was, at best, the preferred candidate of Broccoli and/or Wilson, and that Sony wouldn't even entertain the idea of sinking hundreds of millions of dollars into launching this - I'm sorry - less-than-incredibly-handsome guy as James Bond over a series of would-be blockbusters.

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Well, some people seem to think he's a looker. At the BAFTAs, Stephen Fry as host said Craig's face "has been designated as a state of natural beauty, which means you should sit on it... and have a picnic..." And he was going out with Kate Moss until not so long ago. Not that she has any taste. But yes, he's not quite in Brozzer's Freeman's catalogue model bracket. He looks brutal:

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#130 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:23 PM

And he was going out with Kate Moss until not so long ago. Not that she has any taste.

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Yeah, look at Pete Doherty.

From that photo you've just put up, and quite a few others, I find it nothing less than astonishing that Craig was even considered for Bond, never mind actually offered the role. But he was, so there we are.

#131 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:26 PM

And he was going out with Kate Moss until not so long ago. Not that she has any taste.

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Yeah, look at Pete Doherty.

From that photo you've just put up, and quite a few others, I find it nothing less than astonishing that Craig was even considered for Bond, never mind actually offered the role. But he was, so there we are.

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Equally astonished. :)

#132 hrabb04

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:31 PM

I almost thought this was the pic of Anakin Skywalker after he fell into the lava.

#133 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:31 PM

I almost thought this was the pic of Anakin Skywalker after he fell into the lava.

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LOL :)

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:45 PM

Okay, I actually quite like the guy for the part, which is why I suggested him. And I think he could do a great job. Which is why I hadn't yet posted the following. Are you ready for the scariest Daniel Craig picture on the internet?

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'The name's Bond. Seriously [censored]ed up Bond.'

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#135 hrabb04

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:56 PM

All right, I give up. You can have your Clive Owens. You can even have your Owen Wilsons, if you can fit him in there...but there is no way on God's green earth this butt-ugly, yippy kiyay you know what would be right for James Bond!

#136 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:03 PM

I find it amazing that Craig is still only in his 30s - sorry, but he looks so old and raddled. If he makes as many Bond films as Moore, perhaps this is how he'll look by the time of his A VIEW TO A KILL:

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#137 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:10 PM

I find it amazing that Craig is still only in his 30s - sorry, but he looks so old and raddled. If he makes as many Bond films as Moore, perhaps this is how he'll look by the time of his A VIEW TO A KILL:

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LOL :)

#138 spynovelfan

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:11 PM

But Loomis! That picture of Auden is the spitting image of Fleming's Bond!

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:18 PM

Okay, I actually quite like the guy for the part, which is why I suggested him. And I think he could do a great job. Which is why I hadn't yet posted the following. Are you ready for the scariest Daniel Craig picture on the internet?

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'The name's Bond. Seriously [censored]ed up Bond.'

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Come on - here he looks like a beaten up Connery Bond! Daniel Craig is a different kind of Bond but more like Fleming

#140 spynovelfan

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:26 PM

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' date='4 May 2005 - 14:18'][Come on - here he looks like a beaten up Connery Bond! Daniel Craig is a different kind of Bond but more like Fleming

Edited by spynovelfan, 04 May 2005 - 02:28 PM.


#141 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:36 PM

And I don't think he looks too old, Loomis! As this shot from a LAYER CAKE press conference last week proves:

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*Snickers like Beavis and Butt-Head*

"This guy's weird-looking."

"Uhhhh.... is this James Bond Triple-X?"

"Bond's never been triple-X, dude. It isn't even R."

"Then it sucks!"

"Why is this guy like.... old?"

"Never mind, there's plenty of explosions and babes. Huh huh huh huh."

Tell you what, though: I plan on watching LAYER CAKE this evening on DVD (my first viewing of a Craig film, I think) - will try to do so with an open mind and will report back with my views on Craig as Bond.

#142 Seannery

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:09 PM

For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks. They go on to say that Clive Owen was told casting agents he didn't want the role of Bond BUT Barbara was said to be already leaning towards Daniel Craig as Bond.


If this ends up happening how about Kate Moss as a Bond Girl. :)

#143 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:14 PM

For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks.  They go on to say that Clive Owen was told casting agents he didn't want the role of Bond BUT Barbara was said to be already leaning towards Daniel Craig as Bond.


If this ends up happening how about Kate Moss as a Bond Girl. :)

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I can't find anything on The Sun's site, Seannery - do you have a link?

And Moss as a Bond girl? Why the heck not? She's gorgeous. And maybe Primal Scream could do a song for CASINO ROYALE (Bobby Gillespie is another guy who's been linked with Moss).

#144 Skudor

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:17 PM

For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks.  They go on to say that Clive Owen was told casting agents he didn't want the role of Bond BUT Barbara was said to be already leaning towards Daniel Craig as Bond.


If this ends up happening how about Kate Moss as a Bond Girl. :)

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The Sun... need I say more. :)

#145 Loomis

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:20 PM

Assuming there's something to these Craig rumours - and I truly believe there's quite a bit of smoke to this particular fire - I'm (temporarily, perhaps) changing my "Next Bond" choice to support our Dan in the hugely unlikely event that The Powers That Be are following these discussions, gauging reactions and so on (yeah, right, like my opinions matter to them).

#146 Seannery

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:24 PM

[quote name='Skudor' date='4 May 2005 - 16:17'][quote name='Seannery' date='4 May 2005 - 16:09']For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:24 PM

For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks. 

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Today? Are you sure you don't mean their story on April 6, when they reported that Daniel Craig had been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and would be signed up formally in a couple of weeks? Which is why we're all discussing him in the first place?

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:32 PM

Tell you what, though: I plan on watching LAYER CAKE this evening on DVD (my first viewing of a Craig film, I think) - will try to do so with an open mind and will report back with my views on Craig as Bond.

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I'm looking forward to your report. He has one big advantage over Owen - he sounds like he might want the job.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:42 PM

I'm looking forward to your report. He has one big advantage over Owen - he sounds like he might want the job.

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I'm starting to wonder if he *is* Owen. Have they ever been seen together?

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:43 PM

[quote name='spynovelfan' date='4 May 2005 - 16:24'][quote name='Seannery' date='4 May 2005 - 15:09']For what it's worth--Did anyone hear that today the Sun newspaper is reporting that Daniel Craig has been offered a 3 film deal by Barbara Broccoli and will be signed up formally in a couple of weeks.