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[spynovelfan]

I suspect this is the photo - from the TV series ULTRAVIOLET - that first sparked the 'Why not Davenport as Bond' stuff. And I admit, it's quite convincing.

[Bondesque]

I doubt that it will be any of the unknowns on the post with perhaps "ulp" the exception of Julian M.

If the theory of EON choosing a lessor known actor for the role is true then Gerry Butler would be the hands down correct choice.

Young but not a baby-face.
His star is moving up but not too fast as to be threatening to EON.
Not too expensive.
Fits the role.

If it's between Butler and McMahon then Butler should win the role easily.

Alas, Hugh Jackman would be my choice however it seems more and more doubtful.
If Eon isn't at least considering Owen then shame on them.

As for Adrian Paul. He would have a been a prime candidate about 10 years or so ago but is to old now. He had a great look and could have been developed into BOnd in terms of acting ability but he came about at the wrong time and is one of many b movie sci fi actors that never made it to the big leagues. A shame actually.

[Stephenson]

I don't think he's a ludicrous candidate, by any means. I just think there are a lot of better candidates out there.

But yes, we'll be having 'Shane McGowan for Bond' threads soon.

Now there is a good potential name for a future Bond movie: "If I should fall from Grace ..."

[royalmile]

I don't think I've seen Matthew MacFadyen act. Yet.


So I'll try to withold judgement at this juncture.

First impression, though; from those 2 pics, he looks like he's saying, "Please don't take my lunch money! I'll be late for chess club!"

[David Schofield]

Interesting arguments as usual, but don't worry, lads, I'm still sure they'll go with Owen AND Owen will go with them.

What WILL we have to talk about then?

[Skudor]

[quote name='zencat' date='12 April 2005 - 19:06'][quote name='Skudor' date='12 April 2005 - 09:41']I do, however, disagree with the contention that the new Bond has to be even remotely famous. James Bond is the star here. People will flock to the movies to see the new guy, and if he's a good fit they'll keep pooring in. To put it in an extreme contrast, you could cast Adam Sandler and the movie would flop as, presumably, word of mouth and film reviews would slate his performance. By contrast, an unknown who's widely seen as a good fit for the role would generate positive publicity that would pull in the crowds.

Once Mr New Bond is announced there will be plenty of free publicity, which will be pushed further by the Eon/MGM/Sony.

[tdalton]

I do believe that we're going to see an unknown in the role. Clive Owen has shown zero interest in taking the role, Hugh Jackman is too busy for it, Daniel Craig is so blatantly not right for the roles, and a lot of the other "contenders" just seem to be lacking the "it" quality that is needed to play Bond. Going with an uknown would be very risky, but I think that's why it's taking EON so long to pick their new Bond, because they have to actually find him rather than having him served up to them by the British/American media. An unknown will bring no baggage to the role with him, as Owen, Jackman, McMahon, and Craig would if they were to step into the role. Then, the focus of the film would be the spectacle of all the CGI and the minimal story that is going to be presented to us disguised as Casino Royale. I don't believe for a minute that EON is going to take the Bond franchise back to its glory days, but they're going to cast an unknown in the role, and then that will justify all the CGI and outrageous stunts because they will feel that they need all of that in order to compensate for the lack of a name star in the role of James Bond.

[Seannery]

I doubt that it will be any of the unknowns on the post with perhaps "ulp" the exception of Julian M. 

If the theory of EON choosing a lessor known actor for the role is true then Gerry Butler would be the hands down correct choice. 

Young but not a baby-face.
His star is moving up but not too fast as to be threatening to EON.
Not too expensive.
Fits the role.

If it's between Butler and McMahon then Butler should win the role easily.

Alas, Hugh Jackman would be my choice however it seems more and more doubtful.
If Eon isn't at least considering Owen then shame on them.

As for Adrian Paul.  He would have a been a prime candidate about 10 years or so ago but is to old now.  He had a great look and could have been developed into BOnd in terms of acting ability but he came about at the wrong time and is one of many b movie sci fi actors that never made it to the big leagues.  A shame actually.

Good post and I agree with most of it BUT when it comes to who Eon will pick I see that as up in the air and could be a suprising choice. With Adrian Paul I agree with your positive review of him BUT still think he is viable now. He's youthful looking for his age(and could do to AT LEAST 3 films) and Roger started at the same age, Pierce and Timothy was in the same 40 something range. Of course if Eon goes young then you will be right BUT i'm not sure that will ultimately be the case--them looking at Dougray Scott age 40 indicates they can trend back to their normal 40 something Bond. And I also hope you are wrong about them picking Julian McMahon as 007--it does seem fairly logical BUT Eon can suprise us all yet. Fingers crossed!



Speaking of this theory that Eon is looking at actors of modest fame I remember Zencat saying a while back that Eon did look at Jaason Simmons(an Australian) from the TV show Baywatch. According to Zencat they rejected him. BUT this does show again Eon is looking at some candidates for Bond who have some modest fame in the USA and overall. The candidates we know of that are or were being considered have all fallen in this pattern.

[David Schofield]

While I'm pretty sure Owen will get the gig, talking of inconspicuous choices does anyone out there know if EON have ever been in discussion with the only unknown/semi-unknown type I think could take it - Clive Robertson?

[zencat]

[quote name='Seannery' date='13 April 2005 - 10:36']Speaking of this theory that Eon is looking at actors of modest fame I remember Zencat saying a while back that Eon did look at Jaason Simmons(an Australian)

[SecretAgentFan]

No new Bond Number 6 rumor this week - hmm, I

[spynovelfan]

No rumours can only mean one thing: Owen has signed. What other reason could there be?

Big ironic smiley >

[Bon-san]

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' date='14 April 2005 - 06:20']No new Bond Number 6 rumor this week - hmm, I

[Marquis]

What about the rumour that Broccoli, Wilson and Brosers supposedly met for lunch in Santa Monica a few days ago?

[Skudor]

It's all part of SPECTRE's evil plot. First throw the world into complete dissarray with a James Bond identity crisis. Then quickly, and inexplicably, they turn off the rumour-mill (a rather elaborate contraption under Windsor Castle) while they prepare their next evil step: The return of Woody Allen as James Bond in Casino Royale.

Edited by Skudor, 14 April 2005 - 12:45 PM.

[Prav_007]

[quote name='SecretAgentFan' date='14 April 2005 - 04:20']Although I hate the constant rumors about the new Bond actor, somehow I

[Mister Asterix]

Everyone used up all of their rumours last week.

Big ironic smiley >

[mra]I think the smiley with it

[Seannery]

[quote name='zencat' date='14 April 2005 - 08:57'][quote name='Seannery' date='13 April 2005 - 10:36']Speaking of this theory that Eon is looking at actors of modest fame I remember Zencat saying a while back that Eon did look at Jaason Simmons(an Australian)

[spynovelfan]

Your bad what, Seannery?

Here's the Jaason Simmons thread.

[Seannery]

Your bad what, Seannery?

Here's the Jaason Simmons thread.

My bad --spynovelfan. Since I was censored let me say: My bad self--spynovelfan. My censored word rhymes with sass.

[Seannery]

Your bad what, Seannery?

Here's the Jaason Simmons thread.

Good find spynovelfan! So it was around November last year that Jaason Simmons was reported to have travelled to have had an audition with Eon and then rejected. Too bad this doesn't say who reported it--I remember it was specifically a Cbn related bit of news either posted or written up by a mod as a throwaway on a front page piece. Since Zen said it wasn't him I don't remember specifically who it was.

[spynovelfan]

Double a thing aside, I actually don't think he looks too bad for the part. Provided he can act, of course.



That looks quite a lot like James Bond to me.

[Seannery]

Double a thing aside, I actually don't think he looks too bad for the part. Provided he can act, of course.



That looks quite a lot like James Bond to me.

I agree he has that Bond look which is rather rare. Like you though I haven't really seen him act. Never was a Baywatch fan--obviously that show wasn't Shakespeare though sometimes a good actor could be in a silly show. But I couldn't judge something I didn't see. Who knows--maybe i'll run into a rerun one of these days. At worst at least i'll see some babes in bikinis.

[royalmile]

Double a thing aside, I actually don't think he looks too bad for the part. Provided he can act, of course.



That looks quite a lot like James Bond to me.

I agree he has that Bond look which is rather rare. Like you though I haven't really seen him act. Never was a Baywatch fan--obviously that show wasn't Shakespeare though sometimes a good actor could be in a silly show. But I couldn't judge something I didn't see. Who knows--maybe i'll run into a rerun one of these days. At worst at least i'll see some babes in bikinis.

Nothing to lose, then!

[Qwerty]

Other Casino Royale topic merged into this one.

[Seannery]

Interesting that the Guardian Unlimited's article on Bond goes past Eon's statement and reports that Daniel Craig's people now say he has been approached but not yet screentested by Eon as have others and that he is very flattered. So we may not have heard the last of Daniel Craig as 007 yet. And this would be another illustration of a semi-unknown being considered by Eon even if he isn't known much in the USA.

[Seannery]

[quote name='Seannery' date='12 April 2005 - 17:43']There are still a lot that we don't know about the search for Bond #6.

[Pussfeller]

We can be fairly sure that they have tested O'Lachlan, Cavill, and Visnjic. There's strong independent evidence for each. What we don't know is whether there are any other candidates. For example, is there a secret candidate, perhaps a celebrity (like Butler or Purefoy), hiding behind the doughy mask of Ewan Stewart? Are there maybe several unspecified candidates waiting in the rafters? The "final four" may really be the final six, or the final eight, or perhaps more.

That having been said, my personal theory is that the producers had four finalists, namely O'Lachlan, Cavill, Visnjic, and a big name, and that they've made their decision by now, or at least narrowed down the list. I think it's between O'Lachlan and Cavill.

[tdalton]

We can be fairly sure that they have tested O'Lachlan, Cavill, and Visnjic. There's strong independent evidence for each. What we don't know is whether there are any other candidates. For example, is there a secret candidate, perhaps a celebrity (like Butler or Purefoy), hiding behind the doughy mask of Ewan Stewart? Are there maybe several unspecified candidates waiting in the rafters? The "final four" may really be the final six, or the final eight, or perhaps more.

That having been said, my personal theory is that the producers had four finalists, namely O'Lachlan, Cavill, Visnjic, and a big name, and that they've made their decision by now, or at least narrowed down the list. I think it's between O'Lachlan and Cavill.

I think that this process of selecting the new Bond is down to more than just these final four. I wouldn't be surprised if there were as many as 6 or 8 still in the race, and that three of the reported "final four" are a part of it. I would venture to guess that Visnjic, Cavill, and O'Lachlan are probably EON's favorites at the moment, while Daniel Craig, Clive Owen, and Gerard Butler, or perhaps even Pierce Brosnan are the favorites of Sony, and they're both trying to decide on one of those 6 candidates. I've got no information to back that up, but it's just a hunch on my part.

[Loeffelholz]

If Cavill or O'Lachlan are cast, Eon won the match.
If Brosnan (or a generic 40-something Bond, like Purefoy or Butler), Sony won.