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[Blofeld's Cat]

I don't know how far behind we are here in getting CSI (Vegas), but the latest ep was about a trio of Sherlockians, and "Sherlock" is murdered. Anyone catch it?

[Blofeld's Cat]

Came across this...

Keeping Secrets: A Speculative History of the Modern British Secret Service

[DLibrasnow]

Yay! Holmes is back.

http://www.reuters.c...storyID=8665093

[TortillaFactory]

Ah, Holmes...my first literary love. I met him when I was twelve and my life was never the same.

For me, Jeremy Brett is the definitive Holmes, and ol' what's-his-nose from Shadowlands is the perfect Watson. The best story, for my money, is The Adventure of Abbey Grange. I think it was an adventure, anyway...not a case...it's been a long time.

I'm in a minority here, probably, but I absolutely despise Laurie R. King's books and the way in which they characterize Holmes...not to mention the BLATANT Mary Sue who stars in them. Ugh. Gag me with a rake.

[DLibrasnow]

Its good to have another CBn Sherlockian...and its great to hear that Holmes is back!

[zencat]

I don't know how far behind we are here in getting CSI (Vegas), but the latest ep was about a trio of Sherlockians, and "Sherlock" is murdered. Anyone catch it?

I've set my TiVo to record this twice and twice it has not recorded.

A mystery indeed...

[DLibrasnow]

I've set my TiVo to record this twice and twice it has not recorded.

A mystery indeed...

Wierd....and there was no recording conflict?...I had some TiVo issue last night. It would not let me set to record Michael Apteds THUNDERHEART. So, I restarted the TiVo and then have not had any problems. It was wierd though.

[JKD68]

Did anyone(DLibrasnow) ever see the episode of "Sliders" where John Ryes-Davies portrays a Holmes-like detective in a Victorian setting? Very interesting I thought.

[zencat]

I just heard about this book on NPR. Has anyone read this? A Sherlockian SilverFin? I think I might give this a read.

The Childhood of Sherlock Holmes




The same NPR segment also highly recommended this book:

A Slight Trick of the Mind

[DLibrasnow]

Didn't we already have a Sherlock Holmes Silverfin with Young Sherlock Holmes?

[zencat]

Didn't we already have a Sherlock Holmes Silverfin with Young Sherlock Holmes?

I mean a good one. I think Young Sherlock Holmes was the equivalent of James Bond, Jr.

I also wanted to ask th CBn Sherlockians if there is a webiste out there that is the CBN of Sherlock Holmes. I've found some good sites, but not really an up-to-the-minute Holmes news site that keeps track of all the new productions, books, etc.

[DLibrasnow]

Well Bondian asked me if I would be interested in spearheading a Sherlock Holmes site, but I didn't really see much interest from Sherlockians that I talked to so it never got off the ground. If any CBn Sherlockians are interested, let me know and maybe Ian would be up to looking into it again.

I'd love to see a site like CBn that caters to Sherlock Holmes. Right now the closest thing is "The Detectives," but thats got a more broad appeal.

[Methos]

Be alert my fellow Sherlockians!!!! There's a Basil Rathbone/Holmes marathon on tonight on Turner Classic Movies!!!! Sorry for the late notice, as it kicks off at 8pm EST. To those of you who catch this message, enjoy!!!

[zencat]

Thanks for the tip, Methos.

Also, that Rupert Everett Holmes film will be airing on PBS in October. Just saw a promo the other day.

[DLibrasnow]

Thanks Methos, I noticed that on my TiVo listing.

Also, Fox is releasing a Basil Rathbone movie on DVD called PRELUDE TO MURDER which the studio is claiming was Rathbone's swan song as Holmes, but the plot sounds very similar to DRESSED TO KILL (1946) which was Rathbone's last.

It's all very confusing so I shot off an email to my contact at Fox to come up with some answers. It's possible it is DRESSED TO KILL and that Fox has changed the name since it has a 1941 movie titled DRESSED TO KILL also coming out around the same time.

[zencat]

Thanks Methos, I noticed that on my TiVo listing.

Also, Fox is releasing a Basil Rathbone movie on DVD called PRELUDE TO MURDER which the studio is claiming was Rathbone's swan song as Holmes, but the plot sounds very similar to DRESSED TO KILL (1946) which was Rathbone's last.

It's all very confusing so I shot off an email to my contact at Fox to come up with some answers. It's possible it is DRESSED TO KILL and that Fox has changed the name since it has a 1941 movie titled DRESSED TO KILL also coming out around the same time.

Here you go, Dlibs. Looks like it is Dressed To Kill, only a colorized version.

http://www.amazon.co...il/-/B0009X75JC

[DLibrasnow]

Okay...thank zencat. The studio rep said they would send out a review copy and now I'm really curious to see how it looks in color. It's not the only Holmes movie that Fox is releasing that day, there is a spate of them but I don't have the press release in front of me to tell me what the other ones are.

[hartley_bond]

DVD Cover I made for a hypothetical Holmes show:

[zencat]

Just watched The Case of the Silk Stockings on PBS tonight and I thought it was pretty darn good. I really like how Rupert Everett played Holmes. I found it very courageous and interesting that he elected to play Holmes as more laconic and thoughtful than manic. Having finally been able to see some of the pre-Rathbone seminal Holmes' (Ellie Norwood, Arthur Wonter, Clive Brook) I realize that this is how Holmes was played for the first 30 years of his cinematic life. Rathbone seems to have introduced the more manic Holmes, which was then carried on by Peter Cushing and brought to perfection, IMO, by Jeremy Brett. Almost all the actors who have played Holmes post Rathbone have affected this manic style. Yet here Everett chucks this and goes back to the laconic, almost sleepy Holmes of the 20s and 30s. Very interesting choice.

Oh, and the music was excellent!

Is this the same producer who did that most recent version of The Hound of the Baskervilles (same Watson)?

[TortillaFactory]

Re: the Rupert Everett show - I taped it and haven't had the chance to check it out yet - my dad, who's another hardcore Sherlockian, informed me that they took way, WAY too many liberties with the whole Holmes dynamic, but that it was nevertheless enjoyable. Looking fwd to watching it tonight.

I loved Jeremy Brett's portrayal, of course, but Everett's the first one who's been the proper age for Holmes' early adventures. And he's got that sort of "oh, ho hum, normal guy, WAIT A SECOND...WEIRD" appearance that works very well for Holmes.

[zencat]

Actually, this Everett film is not an early adventure but a very late one. Watson is engaged and there's lot of talk about the old days, etc. That's one thing I didn't like about Everett was his age. Too young and too good looking to be Holmes at this time in his life, IMO. But I got over it.

BTW, I wonder if the media and Sherlockians lost their nut in '76 when Nicole Williamson was cast as Holmes in The Seven Per Cent Solution because, you know, HE'S BLONDE!!!

[Streetworker]

Hey, I don't see this as completely OT. Like Bond, Sherlock Holmes is an icon of Britain and British literature who (whom?)

Definitely "whom"...

Best has to be Brett by a long way. But Robert Stephens was good in Billy Wilder's "The Secret Life..." and Christopher Plummer was good in the underrated "Murder By Decree".

[CharlieBind]

Top Five Sherlock's

01. Clive Merrison
02. Peter Cushing
03. Basil Rathbone
04. Robert Stephens
05. Christopher Plummer

Top Five Watson's

01. Andre Morell
02. James Mason
03. Nigel Bruce
04. Michael Williams
05. E. Hardwicke

Top Five movies

01. THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
02. THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES 1959
03. THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
04. MURDER BY DECREE 1979
05. THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES 1939

[Johnboy007]

I don't know how far behind we are here in getting CSI (Vegas), but the latest ep was about a trio of Sherlockians, and "Sherlock" is murdered. Anyone catch it?

It was an okay episode

"Well Grissom, aren't you going to say 'The game is afoot!'
-I didn't know you were an Arthur Conan Doyle fan, Greg!
-I'm not, I saw a Sherlock Holmes movie once, by mistake"


I read Hound of the Baskervilles in 7th grade, and part of A Study in Scarlet. School reading got in the way of me reading more the stories. Fortunately, I picked up The Complete Volumes of Sherlock Holmes 1 and 2 today at Borders of $7.95 each. I look forward to diving back in Holmes.

[DLibrasnow]

Top Five Sherlock's

01. Clive Merrison
02. Peter Cushing
03. Basil Rathbone
04. Robert Stephens
05. Christopher Plummer

Top Five Watson's

01. Andre Morell
02. James Mason
03. Nigel Bruce
04. Michael Williams
05. E. Hardwicke

Top Five movies

01. THE PRIVATE LIFE OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
02. THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES 1959
03. THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES
04. MURDER BY DECREE 1979
05. THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES 1939

Wow....we seem to have very similar tastes, except I think Rathbone is the very best of all the actors to play Sherlock Holmes. It comes from eagerly waiting for those movies to come on BBC2 every Friday evening after supper when I was young.

[DLibrasnow]

Sherlock Holmes Birthday

Friday Jan. 6

January 6th is Sherlock Holmes' birthday, be sure to raise a glass of your favourite beverage to toast him.

[Captain Grimes]

I really like how Rupert Everett played Holmes. I found it very courageous and interesting that he elected to play Holmes as more laconic and thoughtful than manic...Almost all the actors who have played Holmes post Rathbone have affected this manic style.

This is interesting. As a casual fan of the Holmes books who is almost totally unfamiliar with cinematic Sherlock, I was thought Everett was too manic in his portrayal. Mania is something I've never associated with Conan Doyle's Holmes.

Has my reading just been too scanty? The literary Holmes always struck me as quiet, aloof, and lethargic. Occasionally he had bursts of enthusiasm, especially in the heat of an investigation, but shouting down Mrs Hudson? Not something I would think him capable of.

What, then, is the source of this manic Holmes? Rathbone? Conan Doyle stories I've missed? The theory that Holmes was bipolar?

[Q's step brother]

http://www.imdb.com/...ath_key=0039017

have these Rathbone DVD's been 'colourised?' Has anyone seen them? Are they any good?

i can't imagine how Rathbone Holmes films would look like 'colourised'.

[DLibrasnow]

Personally I really hate this movie, but some people might like it.

I noticed in the slew of press releases sent out by Fox today that "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother" will be released on DVD April 4.

I TiVo'd this once and made it about 10 minutes in before I had to stop.

Q's step brother - I believe they have, but I have never seen them.

[zencat]

I agree with you Dlib. That movie is pretty unwatchable.