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[marktmurphy]

Was just watching the DVD: did anyone spot Deborah, daughter of Sir Roger, in the last episode? I didn't until now.

[Brisco]

The Douglas Wilmer/Nigel Stock DVDs are out in America now. Did anyone else pick them up yet? (You can't beat the cheap price!) I just got mine from Amazon today, and I'm watching the pilot, "The Speckled Band," right now. I'd never seen any of the bootleg versions, so this is all new to me. I'm enjoying it quite a lot! The quality is much better than I was expecting (aside from a persistant spot in the middle of the print for most of the pilot). Wilmer's a much more subdued, genteel Holmes than I'm used to (Cushing was a lot more petulent and irritable when he stepped in), and Stock's playing it a bit closer to Nigel Bruce (in the pilot, at least) than he does with Cushing, but both of them are good. I'm definitely looking forward to watching more.

All eleven surviving episodes are crammed onto two double-sided discs. I thought double-sided discs were a thing of the past, but I guess that's how they managed to keep the cost down, so I shouldn't complain. I definitely recommend the set!

[Tybre]

The Douglas Wilmer/Nigel Stock DVDs are out in America now. Did anyone else pick them up yet? (You can't beat the cheap price!) I just got mine from Amazon today, and I'm watching the pilot, "The Speckled Band," right now. I'd never seen any of the bootleg versions, so this is all new to me. I'm enjoying it quite a lot! The quality is much better than I was expecting (aside from a persistant spot in the middle of the print for most of the pilot). Wilmer's a much more subdued, genteel Holmes than I'm used to (Cushing was a lot more petulent and irritable when he stepped in), and Stock's playing it a bit closer to Nigel Bruce (in the pilot, at least) than he does with Cushing, but both of them are good. I'm definitely looking forward to watching more.

All eleven surviving episodes are crammed onto two double-sided discs. I thought double-sided discs were a thing of the past, but I guess that's how they managed to keep the cost down, so I shouldn't complain. I definitely recommend the set!

Haven't seen those either, although I am interested in checking them out. Have to get round to picking up the DVDs at some point. At the moment I'm a bit short, but I am planning to see if I can't find the Arthur Wontner films once I have a bit more money. Also, looking at the wikipedia entry for Wontner, it's possible it's just coincidence, but, given everything else they did over those three episodes, Gatiss may have planted a deliberate reference into The Great Game.

Also, here's something interesting: Wontner's Watson was played by a man named Ian Fleming (but not our Fleming).

[zencat]

Stephen Fry as Mycroft in Sherlock Holmes 2! Absolutely perfect casting, imo.

http://www.sherlockn...in-ritchie.html

[Royal Dalton]

The Douglas Wilmer/Nigel Stock DVDs are out in America now. Did anyone else pick them up yet? (You can't beat the cheap price!) I just got mine from Amazon today, and I'm watching the pilot, "The Speckled Band," right now. I'd never seen any of the bootleg versions, so this is all new to me. I'm enjoying it quite a lot! The quality is much better than I was expecting (aside from a persistant spot in the middle of the print for most of the pilot). Wilmer's a much more subdued, genteel Holmes than I'm used to (Cushing was a lot more petulent and irritable when he stepped in), and Stock's playing it a bit closer to Nigel Bruce (in the pilot, at least) than he does with Cushing, but both of them are good. I'm definitely looking forward to watching more.

All eleven surviving episodes are crammed onto two double-sided discs. I thought double-sided discs were a thing of the past, but I guess that's how they managed to keep the cost down, so I shouldn't complain. I definitely recommend the set!

I've been going through the Wilmer set, too. The picture quality's really good on most of the episodes. The Speckled Band looks a bit ropey (as it did on the old BBC Video release). But that one's obviously a 16mm 405-line suppressed-field telerecording (whereas the others are 35mm 625-line telerecordings), so it's forgivable. A very good set on the whole, though.

[marktmurphy]

Jared Harris is Moriarty, apparently.

[zencat]

Excellent! Sounds like they are taking this movie seriously (you know, cast someone who is actually right for the part instead of stunt-star casting). I'm excited.

[marktmurphy]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

[Zorin Industries]

Excellent! Sounds like they are taking this movie seriously (you know, cast someone who is actually right for the part instead of stunt-star casting). I'm excited.

Yes, it is good solid casting. Puts pay to Jared Harris popping up in a Bond though for now (though ANYONE popping up in a Bond would be nice at the moment).

[zencat]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

Nope. Airs here in October, I think.

[DLibrasnow]

Excellent! Sounds like they are taking this movie seriously (you know, cast someone who is actually right for the part instead of stunt-star casting). I'm excited.

You and me both.

[marktmurphy]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

Nope. Airs here in October, I think.

Righto: you'll love it, I hope. I enjoyed the Downey movie but for me Sherlock is THE Holmes adaptation of this century so far.

[quantumofsolace]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

Nope. Airs here in October, I think.

Righto: you'll love it, I hope. I enjoyed the Downey movie but for me Sherlock is THE Holmes adaptation of this century so far.

Agree. Absolutely. That movie was good fun but nowhere near the quality of this . Along with the Brett stuff this is the best screen adaptation by far.

Edited by quantumofsolace, 01 October 2010 - 11:07 PM.

[stromberg]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

Nope. Airs here in October, I think.

Righto: you'll love it, I hope. I enjoyed the Downey movie but for me Sherlock is THE Holmes adaptation of this century so far.

Agree. Absolutely. That movie was good fun but nowhere near the quality of this . Along with the Brett stuff this is the best by far.

What they said.

[Tybre]

Have you seen Sherlock yet, John?

Nope. Airs here in October, I think.

Righto: you'll love it, I hope. I enjoyed the Downey movie but for me Sherlock is THE Holmes adaptation of this century so far.

Well, it's still very early days in the century.

That said, Sherlock was great.

If memory serves it airs on PBS in late October, starting on the 24th. I think. It's definitely a Sunday unless they've shifted the Masterpiece schedule. Can't wait (even if I do still have all three on my PC).

[Jackanaples]

I enjoyed the Guy Ritchie Holmes movie and am very much looking forward to the sequel. Stephen Fry as Mycroft is possibly the most perfect bit of casting that character has ever had. Jared Harris for Moriarty is a very compelling choice too.

Having said that, I definitely think Moffat & Gatiss' SHERLOCK is the best Holmes movie or tv outing since the Granada series with Jeremy Brett. In fact, Benedict Cumberbatch's portrayal of Holmes is probably my second favorite of all time after Brett's.

[marktmurphy]

Well, it's still very early days in the century.

That's sort of what 'so far' means...

Having said that, I definitely think Moffat & Gatiss' SHERLOCK is the best Holmes movie or tv outing since the Granada series with Jeremy Brett. In fact, Benedict Cumberbatch's portrayal of Holmes is probably my second favorite of all time after Brett's.

Yeah, easily. And if it were a choice between watching a new Brett or a new Sherlock I'd pick Cumberbatch every time. Might just be the freshness of it, I don't know, but as a piece about the relationship between the two of them (whilst still having adventures) Sherlock is much better.
Brett is probably definitive, but I believe that Cumberbatch could actually be a real person, unlike Brett.

[zencat]

BTW, if anyone else is reading (and enjoying) these new Young Sherlock Holmes novels by Andrew Lane, I've discovered that Book 3 is going to be called Black Ice. Book 2, Red Leech, is released next month. Goldsboro is releasing them as limited signed hardcovers.

[marktmurphy]

Is Sherlock on in the US today? Can't wait to hear our US cousins' opinions of it!

[terminus]

BTW, if anyone else is reading (and enjoying) these new Young Sherlock Holmes novels by Andrew Lane, I've discovered that Book 3 is going to be called Black Ice. Book 2, Red Leech, is released next month. Goldsboro is releasing them as limited signed hardcovers.

I have it on pre-order on Amazon - Book 1 has to be one of the most fun books I've read in a bit, though I had most of the villains plot in Book 1 figured out for quite a while before Sherlock figured it out.

[zencat]

Is Sherlock on in the US today? Can't wait to hear our US cousins' opinions of it!

Yes, tonight at nine. For those in LA, know that KOCE is showing it tonight. KCET moved it to Thursday.

BTW, if anyone else is reading (and enjoying) these new Young Sherlock Holmes novels by Andrew Lane, I've discovered that Book 3 is going to be called Black Ice. Book 2, Red Leech, is released next month. Goldsboro is releasing them as limited signed hardcovers.

I have it on pre-order on Amazon - Book 1 has to be one of the most fun books I've read in a bit, though I had most of the villains plot in Book 1 figured out for quite a while before Sherlock figured it out.

Glad I have a fellow fan here. Really looking forward to Red Leech. BTW, cover art for the U.S. edition of Death Cloud is on Amazon and it is...not good. Be thankful something like this didn't happen with Young Bond.

[marktmurphy]

Heh! I want to hate that, but I can't actually! That kid's pretty decent casting looks-wise; helps to sell the concept a bit. Typography could've been better.

[zencat]

I just wonder if any boy (and these are books for boys) would want to carry around a book with a picture of a boy that pretty on the cover. He's a little Sherlock Bieber. Also, using such a photo real cover makes it look like a tween novel. Interesting how it doesn't feature "Young Sherlock Holmes" on the cover.

[terminus]

Oh - that is a bad cover, that's a Mills n Boon cover.

[Matt_13]

Wow, be really grateful that YB didn't get that kind of nonsense.

[zencat]

Is Sherlock on in the US today? Can't wait to hear our US cousins' opinions of it!

I thought it was superb!

[marktmurphy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[zencat]

BTW, if anyone else is reading (and enjoying) these new Young Sherlock Holmes novels by Andrew Lane, I've discovered that Book 3 is going to be called Black Ice. Book 2, Red Leech, is released next month. Goldsboro is releasing them as limited signed hardcovers.

I have it on pre-order on Amazon - Book 1 has to be one of the most fun books I've read in a bit, though I had most of the villains plot in Book 1 figured out for quite a while before Sherlock figured it out.

Hey, I just got my copy of Red Leech a good week in advance of the publication date. Ordered from The Book Depository which have free shipping (even to U.S.). http://www.bookdepos...mes-2-Red-Leech

Couple things. Charlie Higson's blurb is printed on the back of the book. Also very cool is a teaser page for Black Ice in the back. Had I not discovered that title on Amazon, that would have been the way I learned the title of the next adventure -- Bond-like. I also like that Lane dedicates the book in part to all those who wrote reviews of book 1 on Amazon "at exactly the time I needed to feel better about writing". (I was one. ).

[terminus]

Still waiting for mine - hopefully soon. Will get to it at some point next week, I expect. Am midway through an Andy McDermott novel at present.

[zencat]

So I thought the second episode of Sherlock was not nearly as strong as the first. (But I've never liked The Sign of Four in any form.) The fight with the whatever-he-was in Baker Street at the opening needed to be cut completely. That just didn't work at all, IMO. Still, had some good stuff.

I'm well into Young Sherlock 2, Red Leech. Pretty good so far. More action/chase than mystery however.