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[marktmurphy]

The direction was pretty pedestrian when you compare with the previous week's.

Not surprising. Euros Lyn was one of the better directors of the RTD era, but was nothing special. Hopefully McGuigan will be free for at least some of the episodes whenever they get round to making more.

Yeah: he seems to have something against perspective- everything's shot from halfway down the street on a long lens. This one looks disappointingly like Dr Who. And I like Dr Who. Plus it drags a little: and I don't know how he managed that as there's much more incident in this script than last week's. It's far from bad, though: just not as attention-grabbing.

Can't wait for more McGuigan- I hope they can get him back for the next series. I don't think I've looked forward to a TV show because of the director before.

[DamnCoffee]

Did anyone else notice the blur effect they used on most of the establishing shots? It looked absoloutely awful, and really annoying.

[marktmurphy]

Did anyone else notice the blur effect they used on most of the establishing shots? It looked absoloutely awful, and really annoying.

I think they were trying to do the miniature effect they use in the title sequence (it's been a bit of a meme for photoshoppy people on the net for a little while) but didn't realise that there's more to it than just dropping a blur over the top half of the image.

[Royal Dalton]

I haven't seen this one properly yet. But the bit I did see pointed to some Weng-Chiang influences.

What I've read about the last episode is that the ending's supposed to be really poor.

And that

Spoiler

Moriarty's in it.

[jwheels]

A couple of questions. First, does anybody know when this will air on BBC America? And the second, does anyone know when the Young Sherlock book will be available in the states? Thanks!

[marktmurphy]

A couple of questions. First, does anybody know when this will air on BBC America? And the second, does anyone know when the Young Sherlock book will be available in the states? Thanks!

24th or 25th of October; and get a Region 2 book reading device and you should be fine to get the book from Amazon UK.

[Tybre]

Another solid episode. Last scene was probably the worst bit, but otherwise fine. Really sorry next week is probably going to be our last episode for a while; two home runs in a row so far.

[volante]

Another solid episode. Last scene was probably the worst bit, but otherwise fine. Really sorry next week is probably going to be our last episode for a while; two home runs in a row so far.

I didn't think the Holmes fight at the begining; whilst Watson was shopping was really relivent.
But the rest of it was pure class.

[Tybre]

Another solid episode. Last scene was probably the worst bit, but otherwise fine. Really sorry next week is probably going to be our last episode for a while; two home runs in a row so far.

I didn't think the Holmes fight at the begining; whilst Watson was shopping was really relivent.
But the rest of it was pure class.

Oh yeah it wasn't relevant per se, but I still enjoyed it. The closing scene just felt tacked on.

Just remembered: According to wiki Sherlock is getting Region 2 DVD/Bluray release on 30 August. All three eps + unaired pilot.

[Jackanaples]

A couple of questions. First, does anybody know when this will air on BBC America? And the second, does anyone know when the Young Sherlock book will be available in the states? Thanks!

As marktmurphy said, SHERLOCK is to air on PBS in October. As for the book, I recommend buying the UK edition from Book Depository. The prices aren't bad, no minimum order, and shipping is free. Oh, they also take Pay Pal in case you don't want to use your credit card.

I'm American and order from them a lot. Your books arrive in about a week. Plus, they have Andrew Lane's second Young Sherlock novel 'Red Leech' on sale for pre-order at 50% off right now.

Edited by Jackanaples, 02 August 2010 - 07:21 PM.

[DamnCoffee]

Quick question.

How come the soundtrack to this new series is brilliant, and yet David Arnolds Bond soundtracks are awful?

[Tybre]

Quick question.

How come the soundtrack to this new series is brilliant, and yet David Arnolds Bond soundtracks are awful?

I wouldn't say his Bond soundtracks are awful, but maybe he's just better suited to TV? I mean, I like Bear McCreary's work, but I wouldn't want him for Bond. Arnold's the same way I guess, because the Sherlock score has definitely been great. I hope Arnold and McGuigan keep on when they get round to making more.

[terminus]

Am I the only one who doesn't think the score is all that and a bag of quavers (maybe all that, minus the bag of quavers). There's one motif that I noticed from the first episode that comes in when Sherlock puts the pieces of a puzzle together and the soundtrack gets ominous - but, other than that, I didn't enjoy it.

[Tybre]

Another solid episode. Cliffhanger's a bit evil, in that it probably won't be a year, at least, until we get more. Kind of want to say I'm a touch disappointed with the last scene(s), but at the same time I can't really. Because it's clever, and it's my own fault. So yeah, solid episode. Definitely not the best of the three but still strong.

Spoiler

Specifically want to say am slightly disappointed due to working out Moriarty's identity. Get bored. Surf the tie-ins. Note that on the tie-in page for the morgue woman a man named Jim, short for James, turns up. Specifically, he initially turns up in a post mentioning Sherlock. Jim also manages to work out cipher, or the method at least, supposedly sent by Moriarty.

Like I said, clever when you think on it, and my own doing thanks to my doing so when I get bored, but then that's why I do it when I get bored; never know what turns up.

And now that that's out of the way, I'm off to bed because it is a far too unreasonable hour of the morning for me to be doing this.

[Zorin Industries]

Saw episode one of SHERLOCK last night. I wasn't completely up for it, but was very impressed. Despite the modern day context (and a lot of texting) I thought the whole thing was lovingly dripping with Victoriana and deliciously unmodern. I am now quite looking forward to catching part two tonight.

[marktmurphy]

Ep 1's the best of the three; but don't let that put you off the rest- it's a cracking series with quite possibly the best and most faithful Holmes and Watson seen onscreen yet. The last two are perhaps even more in the vein of the Rathbone movies (they even have their own version of the Creeper!) and there's nothing wrong with that. The second is directed by a TV director and looks and feels a little less impressive (despite a very good plot- if it were any other series I'd say it was the best show I'd seen in ages), but 1 and 3 are like proper movies. Brilliant series.
All three are currently in the top 10 on iPlayer; I don't think I've seen that before. It's a massive hit.

[quantumofsolace]

That was just brilliant. Written superbly. Acted perfectly and the Arnold music was also perfect. The villain,when he finally appears, is such an unexpectedly slimey , nasty,annoying clever that you want him to die immediately. 10/10

[volante]

That was just brilliant. Written superbly. Acted perfectly and the Arnold music was also perfect. The villain,when he finally appears, is such an unexpectedly slimey , nasty,annoying clever that you want him to die immediately. 10/10

I watched all three episodes with a huge smile on myu face; really enjoyed it (maybe not the fight start of episode 2)Really good piec of writting; and good acting too.
I thought the pool scene was very tense.
They are going to have some fun next series

[Brisco]

Mark Gatiss isn't exactly the best writer known to man, so I wouldn't expect it to be brilliant.

Why all the hate for Gatiss? Based on his first two Lucifer Box novels, The Vesuvius Club and (particularly!) The Devil in Amber, I would say he IS one of the best writers known to man! OK, maybe that's a stretch, but he's definitely one of MY favorites. Sadly, the third Box book - the Bondian one, Black Butterfly - wasn't up to the previous two, and felt really rushed, but I'm willing to grant him slack based on the others. Anyway, I think those novels are brilliant, and I would have high expectations of a writer who's demonstrated such brilliance. As for his TV stuff, I'm not a huge Doctor Who fan, but his episodes seemed on par with the others I've seen. That Poirot he wrote last season wasn't AMAZING, but it was probably the best of that batch. And the League of Gentlemen is also brilliant.

I'm impatiently waiting for the US broadcast this fall (or maybe I'll cave and buy the import DVD), but I'm highly looking forward to seeing what Gatiss brings to Sherlock! (He's the number one reason I've been so excited about this show since it was announced.)

[marktmurphy]

I wasn't as keen on his Box novels as I wanted to be: I didn't think they were original as they should have been. The first just read as a Bond movie, sadly, when I think it wanted to be more than that. I preferred the second, but as you say, the third was very weak.

His episode of Sherlock is easily the best drama he's written, though; happily!

[Automan]

Tell you what. Best bit of telly we watched for a long time

[Zorin Industries]

Mark Gatiss isn't exactly the best writer known to man, so I wouldn't expect it to be brilliant.

Why all the hate for Gatiss? Based on his first two Lucifer Box novels, The Vesuvius Club and (particularly!) The Devil in Amber, I would say he IS one of the best writers known to man! OK, maybe that's a stretch, but he's definitely one of MY favorites. Sadly, the third Box book - the Bondian one, Black Butterfly - wasn't up to the previous two, and felt really rushed, but I'm willing to grant him slack based on the others. Anyway, I think those novels are brilliant, and I would have high expectations of a writer who's demonstrated such brilliance. As for his TV stuff, I'm not a huge Doctor Who fan, but his episodes seemed on par with the others I've seen. That Poirot he wrote last season wasn't AMAZING, but it was probably the best of that batch. And the League of Gentlemen is also brilliant.

I'm impatiently waiting for the US broadcast this fall (or maybe I'll cave and buy the import DVD), but I'm highly looking forward to seeing what Gatiss brings to Sherlock! (He's the number one reason I've been so excited about this show since it was announced.)

And Gatiss gets television and the genres he works in more than many a writer or director. He could play a stunningly twisted, perverse Bond villain and would no doubt be on someone's casting radar somewhere.

Check out his CROOKED HOUSE trilogy too. Very creepy and simple storytelling with a cracker of a twist.

I reallly liked SHERLOCK (haven't seen the middle episode yet but done one and three) and thought it was deliciously arched and perverse and dripping in Victoriana as seen through texts and taxis. Though Hans Zimmer apparently wants his theme tune back from David Arnold who has trodden a not very fine path of "homage" with his main theme.

Oh - it's the new MASTER meeting the new DOCTOR.... (who said that?!)

[quantumofsolace]

Mark Gatiss isn't exactly the best writer known to man, so I wouldn't expect it to be brilliant.

Why all the hate for Gatiss? Based on his first two Lucifer Box novels, The Vesuvius Club and (particularly!) The Devil in Amber, I would say he IS one of the best writers known to man! OK, maybe that's a stretch, but he's definitely one of MY favorites. Sadly, the third Box book - the Bondian one, Black Butterfly - wasn't up to the previous two, and felt really rushed, but I'm willing to grant him slack based on the others. Anyway, I think those novels are brilliant, and I would have high expectations of a writer who's demonstrated such brilliance. As for his TV stuff, I'm not a huge Doctor Who fan, but his episodes seemed on par with the others I've seen. That Poirot he wrote last season wasn't AMAZING, but it was probably the best of that batch. And the League of Gentlemen is also brilliant.

I'm impatiently waiting for the US broadcast this fall (or maybe I'll cave and buy the import DVD), but I'm highly looking forward to seeing what Gatiss brings to Sherlock! (He's the number one reason I've been so excited about this show since it was announced.)

And Gatiss gets television and the genres he works in more than many a writer or director. He could play a stunningly twisted, perverse Bond villain and would no doubt be on someone's casting radar somewhere.

Check out his CROOKED HOUSE trilogy too. Very creepy and simple storytelling with a cracker of a twist.

I reallly liked SHERLOCK (haven't seen the middle episode yet but done one and three) and thought it was deliciously arched and perverse and dripping in Victoriana as seen through texts and taxis. Though Hans Zimmer apparently wants his theme tune back from David Arnold who has trodden a not very fine path of "homage" with his main theme.

Oh - it's the new MASTER meeting the new DOCTOR.... (who said that?!)

I believe Arnold did tweet that he wrote the theme long before the movie SH was released and that the similarity is just a coincidence. Rings true when you consider how long ago the pilot was filmed and that Arnold is far too good a composer to have to resort to stealing.

Edited by quantumofsolace, 14 August 2010 - 03:17 AM.

[marktmurphy]

Yeah; Arnold wrote his theme first, including all instrumentation. Such a shame the film came out first and stole his thunder- I'm not sure that I don't prefer his Holmes theme. We shall see when the DVD comes out with the pilot on it.

Interesting comparison between the pilot and transmitted version:

http://www.impossibl...mn.sherlock.htm

[Tybre]

Yeah; Arnold wrote his theme first, including all instrumentation. Such a shame the film came out first and stole his thunder- I'm not sure that I don't prefer his Holmes theme. We shall see when the DVD comes out with the pilot on it.

Interesting comparison between the pilot and transmitted version:

http://www.impossibl...mn.sherlock.htm

Definitely be interesting to see the pilot.

[stromberg]

Hope to somehow get my hands on the DVDs, pilot looks interesting.

Finally got to watching the 3rd episode. Enjoyed the entire series very much, didn't think that a present day adaption would work that good (but then again, the Rathbone movies, for example, are also 'present day adaptions' - just that 'present day' was the 1940s. That last episode - well, maybe one or the other reference too much, and a plot that reminded me somewhat of the 3rd Die Hard movie. Moriarty maybe five years too young, but an interesting take on the character. But overall very enjoyable, can't wait for more - especially after that cliffhanger...

BTW, found something nice: of course, they set up Sherlocks website http://www.thescienc...eduction.co.uk/ and Watson's blog http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk on the 'real' internet. Look at the 'comments' on this blog entry: http://www.johnwatso...uk/blog/23march

[DamnCoffee]

Some great news on the SHERLOCK front.

Sherlock has been recommissioned for a second series, it has been formally announced.

BBC One controller Jay Hunt confirmed today that the modern-day drama adaptation, which wowed viewers and critics, will return for three more 90-minute stories in autumn 2011.

Meanwhile, Luther has also been renewed, after earning a respectable audience over its six-part run.

Hunt said of the two programmes: "Sherlock was the hit of the summer; Luther, the most memorable new detective on the block. I am delighted they will both be returning to BBC One."

Sherlock co-creators Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat added: "We've been overwhelmed by the warmth of response to our new Sherlock Holmes and John Watson and can't wait to take them on three new adventures next year.

"There'll be baffling new puzzles, old friends and new enemies - whether on two, or four legs. And we might well be seeing the cold master of logic and reason unexpectedly falling. But in love? Or over a precipice? Who can tell?"

Starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman, the show averaged a fine 7.2m over its three episodes: 'A Study In Pink', 'The Blind Banker' and 'The Great Game'.

I would've rather had a full 10 part series or something, but great news all the same!

[marktmurphy]

The DVD's has been delivered too- lots of opinions on the pilot floating around! Mine hasn't been delivered yet, though.

[Tybre]

I have to say, I'm a bit glad they're keeping it short. One the one hand, a lengthier series would be better; but on the other, three ninety minute episodes is a good deal. I do wish they would keep the mid/late summer spot, but it's whatever.

[quantumofsolace]

Some great news on the SHERLOCK front.

Sherlock has been recommissioned for a second series, it has been formally announced.

BBC One controller Jay Hunt confirmed today that the modern-day drama adaptation, which wowed viewers and critics, will return for three more 90-minute stories in autumn 2011.

Meanwhile, Luther has also been renewed, after earning a respectable audience over its six-part run.

Hunt said of the two programmes: "Sherlock was the hit of the summer; Luther, the most memorable new detective on the block. I am delighted they will both be returning to BBC One."

Sherlock co-creators Mark Gatiss and Steven Moffat added: "We've been overwhelmed by the warmth of response to our new Sherlock Holmes and John Watson and can't wait to take them on three new adventures next year.

"There'll be baffling new puzzles, old friends and new enemies - whether on two, or four legs. And we might well be seeing the cold master of logic and reason unexpectedly falling. But in love? Or over a precipice? Who can tell?"

Starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman, the show averaged a fine 7.2m over its three episodes: 'A Study In Pink', 'The Blind Banker' and 'The Great Game'.

I would've rather had a full 10 part series or something, but great news all the same!

As you say,great news, but I also like the format. Ten 45 minute episodes sounds great to those of us who crave more but I do think the longer format works so well it would be wrong to change it. Remember, the pilot was an hour but was seen as too short by the producers. We'll still be getting three 90 min movies next year which is about the same amount of screen time as a British TV drama serial usually has.