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[Prav_007]

He is in that movie Closer with Julia Roberts, Natalie Portman and Jude Law. We'll see how he turns out.

[Pal]

He was on Oprah with Julia Roberts and Natalie Portman promoting Closer. It actually looked like he was Bond with 2 women he to choose from. Of course, he'd take Roberts because Portman is just a little too young for him.lol.

[RevolveR]

I asked my wife a while back what she thought of Owen and she was surprised he was being considered as Bond. Of course, the film I showed her was The Bourne Identity, not his most glamorous role.

I think Owen's look is fine. If you want to go back to Fleming, James Bond was not the drop-dead gorgeous male model we get in the films. He was described as a good-looking man, but not pretty. He is compared with Hoagy Carmichael. I've seen Hoagy Carmichael, who I don't consider a very good-looking guy.

Like Roger Moore says, Bond should not be somebody everybody knows when he walks into a room. A handsome but not too handsome guy would be the answer and Owen fits the bill nicely. Everything else seems like it would fill into place from there.

Turn makes a lot of good points. The Bourne Identity was my first look at Clive Owen and I though that it was a joke to even consider him as Bond. After viewing the BMW movies I had a complete change of mind. They are a much better gauge of his 007 potential.

Also, I agree that Bond needs to be a good looking man, not a beautiful man. Pierce Brosnan "looks" like Bond to me, but thats because he did a great job of acting the part, IMO. Just glancing physically at Pierce however, he can be easily seen as "too pretty" for Bond. Clive Owen is not a showstopper to look at. He won't be the first guy you notice in a room. That is what Bond should be.

[Loyal Terrior]

I think he's got it well enough.

[Arrant]

I find myself in agreement with LOOMIS on many points regarding Bond, but we have had a difference of opinion on Owen and I promised I would shut up until I had seen " Beyond Borders". Well I have seen it and I still don't rate Owen as a potential Bond.

He still reminds me of Nemo with Acne scars. I'm not a woman but he just doesn't look like female fantasy material too me. He looks serious and soulful and the sort of guy who's shoulder you might want to cry on, but nothing about him strikes me as "Fit". O.K. he can take a moody publicity shot, but he can't seem to repeat that in his performances. His moody comes over as "concerned", and I'm sure he is a great dad.

That's not Bond! Bond is "The good looking bastard", that women know they shouldn't get emotionally mixed up with but think, " what the hell, I never said I wanted to marry him!"

[Bryan Harris]

Also, I agree that Bond needs to be a good looking man, not a beautiful man. Pierce Brosnan "looks" like Bond to me, but thats because he did a great job of acting the part, IMO.  Just glancing physically at Pierce however, he can be easily seen as "too pretty" for Bond.

That's a good point. By the same token, though, isn't it also possible that Owen-spindly and jug-eared though he may be-could, through similar qualities of performance, come across as more desirable than his looks would at first indicate?

I was rereading Adrian Turner's Bloomsbury Movie Guide on Goldfinger, and the section about the lambasting Sean Connery originally got from the British press in 1962 suggests that a beefy Scotsman who had more hair on his back than on his head was not anybody's original conception of an ideal Bond. This perception, however, changed very quickly once Dr. No was released, in no small part because of Connery's unearthly self-assurance and charisma.

I think Owen is a real contender because what he lacks in external beauty he makes up for in je ne sais quoi, and I imagine the other people who are plumping for him might agree.

[Athena007]

[quote name='Loomis' date='11 November 2004 - 07:12'][quote name='Athena007' date='11 November 2004 - 00:24']Clive Owen? Sex appeal? I would never use that name and that phrase in the same sentence unless linked by the phrase

[crashdrive]

Bond is "The good looking bastard", that women know they shouldn't get emotionally mixed up with but think, " what the hell, I never said I wanted to marry him!"

Exactly! Bond should be fantasy. Owen is reality. I'll bet there are thousands of women who find him attractive, but he's just not that female sex fantasy made flesh Connery brought out so well. And Connery wasn't even conventionally handsome. He had the charisma Owen just lacks. I love Owen as an actor and I'll watch every one of his films, but I just can't see him as Bond. He's too much of a departure from the previous Bond actors.

[Loomis]

Good. At least he'd be a breath of fresh air. I disagree, though, that he'd be too much of a departure from the previous Bond actors - someone like Orlando Bloom, Colin Farrell, Jude Law, Ewan McGregor or even everyone's apparent fave Hugh Jackman would be, but Owen fits the profile nicely.

We're never going to get another Connery, just as we're never going to get another Fleming. I have the feeling, crash, that if you'd been Albert R. Broccoli you wouldn't have hired Moore or Dalton.

But I guess this discussion of Owen may well be "academic". I seem to remember a claim in the British tabloid the News of the World a while back to the effect that Sony wants to revamp James Bond as a young, "modern" action hero capable of competing with the likes of SPIDER-MAN and THE MATRIX. If that's true, then Owen wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell, but then neither would anyone apart from, presumably, the likes of Bloom and Farrell.

My top five candidates right now:

Clive Owen
Jack Davenport
Hugh Grant
James Purefoy
Colin Firth

[RevolveR]

If sony decides to create even more of a superhero Bond, then the series truly is dead. I loved Brosnan, but if his action packed films weren't enough to make Bond a true action hero, then I don't want to see what Sony has in mind.

The Bond series as a whole would benefit from a more serious Bond, like Owen would bring.

[SeanValen00V]

If sony decides to create even more of a superhero Bond, then the series truly is dead.  I loved Brosnan, but if his action packed films weren't enough to make Bond a true action hero, then I don't want to see what Sony has in mind.

The Bond series as a whole would benefit from a more serious Bond, like Owen would bring.

Well as a laugh, Bourne films, first one Bourne Identity had Clive Owen in it, and the Bond people will be wanting to rival that film series, snatch Clive Owen, there'll be a link.


My choices for Bond:

Hugh Jackman
Clive Owen
Christian Bale-batman now, but still good conteder.
Dougary Scott-got some fire in him, menacing.

These four, I wouldn't mind.

[Jack Bauer]

Owen doesn't have those "knockout" good looks like the previous Bonds had (with the exception being Dalton). He has more of a "manly man" look to him. Really burly, and rough, but could come off as suave, and passionate.

Just because Bond doesn't look attractive to the viewer, doesn't mean Bond isn't attractive to the girl pursuing him.

[Qwerty]

I just saw the trailer for him in Closer. For that particular film, I think he shows some of the attributes of James Bond. I wouldn't know how sexy women would find him in it though.

[RevolveR]

Owen doesn't have those "knockout" good looks like the previous Bonds had (with the exception being Dalton). He has more of a "manly man" look to him. Really burly, and rough, but could come off as suave, and passionate.

Just because Bond doesn't look attractive to the viewer, doesn't mean Bond isn't attractive to the girl pursuing him.

Ironically enough I started this thread after viewing that trailer.

[Jack Bauer]

Owen doesn't have those "knockout" good looks like the previous Bonds had (with the exception being Dalton). He has more of a "manly man" look to him. Really burly, and rough, but could come off as suave, and passionate.

Just because Bond doesn't look attractive to the viewer, doesn't mean Bond isn't attractive to the girl pursuing him.

Ironically enough I started this thread after viewing that trailer.

I think you quoted the wrong person, RevolveR.

[Qwerty]

Talking about Closer Revolver?