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[RevolveR]

This question is geared more towards the females of CBn, although its open to anybody. I myself find it difficult to judge "sex appeal" from a guy's perspective, but I have been told by people that Clive Owen doesn't have it. We all know that this is an important factor for a Bond film from a sales perspective.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

Where's Loomis?! Get him here!


I could learn to love Clive...

[Loomis]

Where's Loomis?!  Get him here!

Sorry I'm late, I got chucked out of a plane without a parachute.

Here's a post I made a while back on this subject:

Was dragged to see SPIDEY 2 last night - hadn't planned on seeing it, but to my surprise enjoyed it tremendously. Great work from Tobey Maguire and Alfred Molina, and the train sequence is stunning.

Another pleasant surprise occurred when the two ladies in our party stopped in front of a cardboard stand thingy in the foyer advertising KING ARTHUR and (totally unprompted by yours truly) started oohing and aahing over Clive Owen.

Yep, you read that correctly. THEY STARTED OOHING AND AAHING OVER CLIVE OWEN.

"That guy's gorgeous," one of them said. At first I assumed she was talking about Ioan Gruffudd, but she then said: "I saw him in, what was that film called? CROUPIER. Really gorgeous."

"He's really fit*," the other agreed.

"Are you serious?" I asked, remembering the many uncomplimentary things I've read (and, indeed, written myself) on CBn re: Owen's looks.

"Yes," they replied, "he's gorgeous."

I informed them that Owen was possibly going to replace Brosnan as Bond. "Good choice," they said.

So there we have it, folks: Clive Owen does have what it takes to charm female viewers as 007.

*In Britain, "fit" can mean "sexually attractive" as well as "physically healthy", etc.

[ComplimentsOfSharky]

[quote name='Loomis' date='10 November 2004 - 22:56'][quote name='ComplimentsOfSharky' date='10 November 2004 - 22:49']Where's Loomis?!

[crashdrive]

Well, of course they think he's gorgeous or else they wouldn't have bothered with 'King Arthur'. Most of the people I saw the film with didn't even know Clive Owen, let alone see 'Croupier'. I'm sorry, but just because two Owen fans think he's gorgeous, doesn't mean he has what it takes. Personally, I could learn to like him, but stand by to what I said earlier; Owen looks too ordinary.

[Joyce Carrington]

Hey, he's not Pierce Brosnan.

But I think he could bring a certain menace to the role of Bond... which could be very sexy.

I dunno.

[Bryce (003)]

Joyce...

You've got far more sex appeal than Owen could ever dream of in Matt and I's opinion.

Just sayin'



*blows kisses*

*Goes to bank to deposit check from Joyce*



Owen certainly has an edge and the grittiness to be Bond in the true sprit of Fleming, but hey, he's said "I don't want to be Bond" - Can't make someone do what they don't want.

I'll settle for watching "Croupier" to meet any need of Owen as a pseudo 007.

Damn good film.

[Joyce Carrington]

*Goes to bank to deposit check from Joyce*

Damnit man!

Quit selling me out!

[Loomis]

Well, of course they think he's gorgeous or else they wouldn't have bothered with 'King Arthur'. Most of the people I saw the film with didn't even know Clive Owen, let alone see 'Croupier'. I'm sorry, but just because two Owen fans think he's gorgeous, doesn't mean he has what it takes. Personally, I could learn to like him, but stand by to what I said earlier; Owen looks too ordinary.

Well, I believe only one of them went on to see KING ARTHUR, and she thought it was terrible. I wouldn't call them "Owen fans" (in fact I don't think they even knew Owen's name when they clapped eyes on that KA ad in that cinema foyer), merely people who've seen Owen and thought: he looks darn good.

[Johnboy007]

Well, of course they think he's gorgeous or else they wouldn't have bothered with 'King Arthur'. Most of the people I saw the film with didn't even know Clive Owen, let alone see 'Croupier'.

Surprised by the number of girls I know who have his picture as a buddy icon or whatnot. And you're spot on to that point, they like the face, but do not have the slightest idea who he actually is.

"Clive Owen fan?
-Who?
-King Arthur, your buddy icon...
-Oh, not really, I just think he's hot"

He appeals to the teenage crowd of girls apparently. That's what Eon wants, right?

[Loomis]

Owen certainly has an edge and the grittiness to be Bond in the true sprit of Fleming, but hey, he's said "I don't want to be Bond" - Can't make someone do what they don't want.

Yes you can.

Picture this:

MICHAEL G. WILSON: Okay, Clive, we've come up with a figure: $2 million.

CLIVE OWEN: You're having a laugh.

WILSON: $2.5 million, then.

OWEN: I've told you: I don't want to be Bond.

BARBARA BROCCOLI: But Bond fans the world over speak of you as a potential 007.

OWEN: Those are rumours. I deal in facts.

WILSON: $3 million, Clive. That's our final offer.

OWEN: Don't you have somewhere to be?

BROCCOLI: Crikey, you drive a hard bargain. $5 million.

OWEN: Get out of my house.

BROCCOLI: $10 million.

OWEN: I don't want to play Bond.

WILSON: $15 million, then. That's about what Pierce got for DIE ANOTHER DAY. We can't really go any higher, Clive.

OWEN: You heard.

WILSON: Okay, $20 million.

OWEN: Send the contract round tomorrow then.

[Athena007]

Clive Owen? Sex appeal? I would never use that name and that phrase in the same sentence unless linked by the phrase

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Speaking from a male point of view, I think he's got it. Then again, different people, different opinions.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Or 'sumfing like that.

[Qwerty]

As a male, I think he has that appeal. Maybe not as much as other contenders, but it's all subjective to the fans.

[RevolveR]

From a male perspective, I think more guys would like Clive Owen because he looks rather ordinary. He would be easier to identify with, sort of like Dalton was, IMO. Maybe EON isn't looking for that, and maybe they are right.

What I do know is that Owen's Bond would be a mix of Dalton, Connery, and a touch of Brosnan's style. That is sexy enough for me.

[Qwerty]

I look at Clive Owen and see Timothy Dalton style James Bond. And that's fine with me.

[RevolveR]

I look at Clive Owen and see Timothy Dalton style James Bond. And that's fine with me.

We need some of that style, just not as much as Dalton himself brought. Don't get me wrong I would enjoy it, but its not for everyone.

[Qwerty]

Well obviously no one is a replica of another Bond. Who knows, Owen could be completely different from Dalton's impersonation. I only say that at present, I see him as a Dalton type Bond.

I wouldn't mind seeing him as more charismatic or so, but I think a darker styled Bond could fit him well.

[RevolveR]

I still haven't see alot of female opinion in here, which is what counts on this one.

[License To Kill]

All I know is Clive Owen is no Pierce Brosnan, looks and charisma wise. When it came to Pierce: women wanted him and men, of course, wanted to be him. I don't think men want to be Clive Owen or women want him...

[RevolveR]

All I know is Clive Owen is no Pierce Brosnan, looks and charisma wise. When it came to Pierce: women wanted him and men, of course, wanted to be him. I don't think men want to be Clive Owen or women want him...

I want to be Clive Owen

Edited by RevolveR, 11 November 2004 - 03:02 AM.

[Pussycat]

Sorry, I don't see it in Clive. Sean oozed it, Timothy had it too, different kind though, but it definitely appealed.

[Pal]

Firstly, I am a guy. Secondly, I happened to see him on Oprah last week and when he came out on stage, man did those women in the audience go nuts. I was actually very surprised. And he actually has a lot of charisma too. He reminded me a lot of Sean Connery in the way he presented himself. He is very calm, collected and a very pleasent speaker despite his deep voice.

[License To Kill]

Firstly, I am a guy. Secondly, I happened to see him on Oprah last week and when he came out on stage, man did those women in the audience go nuts. I was actually very surprised. And he actually has a lot of charisma too. He reminded me a lot of Sean Connery in the way he presented himself. He is very calm, collected and a very pleasent speaker despite his deep voice.

Thats quite suprising. Why was he on?

[Qwerty]

All I know is Clive Owen is no Pierce Brosnan, looks and charisma wise. When it came to Pierce: women wanted him and men, of course, wanted to be him. I don't think men want to be Clive Owen or women want him...

He could become a "Pierce Brosnan" though. Much to fans liking or disliking I'd bet.

[Turn]

All I know is Clive Owen is no Pierce Brosnan, looks and charisma wise. When it came to Pierce: women wanted him and men, of course, wanted to be him. I don't think men want to be Clive Owen or women want him...

Personally, I'd rather be Sean Connery. Then again, Pierce often sounds like he wants to be, too.

[Loomis]

[quote name='Athena007' date='11 November 2004 - 00:24']Clive Owen? Sex appeal? I would never use that name and that phrase in the same sentence unless linked by the phrase

[Lady Rose]

Clive Owen is not the man for me.He really is lacking in sex appeal and charisma and I really have tried to like him.I have known of him since he was in 'Chancer', a tv series in the UK quite a few years ago and I did enjoy the much feted Croupier and BMW performances.I have payed attention to him in great detail as his name has been mentioned with Bond for years,but he just doesn't press my buttons

Of the previous Bonds,I have found Connery and Dalton by far the most attractive.Brosnan and Moore were always too pretty for me and I have always been indifferent to Lazenby.I obviously go for the dark,'worn in'look,so Owen should fit the bill but he is just missing something.Couldn't imagine myself falling for him if he walked into the room.

[Turn]

I asked my wife a while back what she thought of Owen and she was surprised he was being considered as Bond. Of course, the film I showed her was The Bourne Identity, not his most glamorous role.

I think Owen's look is fine. If you want to go back to Fleming, James Bond was not the drop-dead gorgeous male model we get in the films. He was described as a good-looking man, but not pretty. He is compared with Hoagy Carmichael. I've seen Hoagy Carmichael, who I don't consider a very good-looking guy.

If this Closer film comes out, I think it may raise his profile with some women. The thing with Brosnan is he is very handsome, which will be hard to follow up on in that respect. I got a TND poster for Christmas once and all my wife could talk about was how good looking he was. Fine, but Bond is about more than looks.

Like Roger Moore says, Bond should not be somebody everybody knows when he walks into a room. A handsome but not too handsome guy would be the answer and Owen fits the bill nicely. Everything else seems like it would fill into place from there.

[Daltonfan]

I think Clive Owen has potential to be sexy - it depends on how he plays it.