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[JackChase007]

Depends on the fight, with firearms I think Bond could easilt win.

From what I've seen, Bourne is much more affective with a gun...or two...

[Qwerty]

Depends on the fight, with firearms I think Bond could easilt win.

From what I've seen, Bourne is much more affective with a gun...or two...

Maybe, I'm just taking into account the amount of screentime I've seen Bond with the guns compared to that for Bourne.

[Harmsway]

Depends on the fight, with firearms I think Bond could easilt win.

From what I've seen, Bourne is much more affective with a gun...or two...

Maybe, I'm just taking into account the amount of screentime I've seen Bond with the guns compared to that for Bourne.

Bourne would kill Bond in any fight. Period. But that's not really the point. Bond's not supposed to be the best fighter anyway.

[Harmsway]

Well I'd say the major difference between Bond and Bourne is:
Bond is a 00-agent which means he gets to do all the tough jobs and the occasional kill in name OHMMS. His reputation he has earned, but is a lonely man all the same.
Bourne was created for a specific target: namely the killer Carlos. His job to lure out the man and kill him. All went wrong when he got shot by Carlos, nearly lost his life but lost his Memory. His bosses couldn't place his behaviour and tried to clean up the mess by killing him. Bourne's reputation had been created to lure another assassin, therefor Bourne does not excist. For three books the name Jason Bourne brings trouble to David webb, a professor who wants to live in peace with wife and children.

Bourne has more drama because of his condition, whereas Bond lives his life by choice and continues to do so. Webb would leave his alter ego gladly alone for the rest of his live.

That's the book Bourne anyway. I think this debate is more about the film Bond vs. the film Bourne.

[Gabe Vieira]

Well, Righty, it depends on which medium you're talking about. In the novels, Marie is in every single one of them. She is married to David Webb (aka Jason Bourne) in The Bourne Supremacy, and they have children together in The Bourne Ultimatum.

See, that is another perfect example of Hollywood ruining a good books by trying to squeze it into a two hour movie. Cough-Ryanverse-Cough

[trs007]

Ok, a few more replies:

Bourne score is out 7/27--my local Best Buy has it.

An opening weekend does not a beating make, Bourne is also a summer movie, DAD is not. Let's compare worldwide grosses in a few months and see from there.

DAD's boxoffice indicates it was anything but a tepid reception, unless you count us diehards who long for the days of Connery. The DAD grosses, not to mention record-breaking DVD sales have given EON the message that the public likes it.

[00-FAN008]

Whereas Bourne is much better at hand-to-hand combat, I can't decide who is the best. However, we must take into consideration that Bond is a ficticious secret agent, whereas Bourne is much more realisitic.
I can't say that Bourne is better than Bond, but Bond is not better than Bourne. If we added Ethan Hunt or Simon Templar into the mix, still, I could not decide.

[Qwerty]

Whereas Bourne is much better at hand-to-hand combat, I can't decide who is the best. However, we must take into consideration that Bond is a ficticious secret agent, whereas Bourne is much more realisitic.

Erm, they're both movie characters. Both realistic.

[Johnboy007]

Bond is a ficticious secret agent.

Christ!

Are you serious!

[00-FAN008]

Christ!

Are you serious!

Well, he always wins!

And he has never really been shot before! (has he?)

[Johnboy007]

And he has never really been shot before! (has he?)

Thunderball.

[Qwerty]

Christ!

Are you serious!

Well, he always wins!

And he has never really been shot before! (has he?)

They're both realistic. Bond had his wife shot, nothing winning about that.

[00-FAN008]

They're both realistic. Bond had his wife shot, nothing winning about that.

Good point, Qwerty.

However, I find the Bond movies slightly a bit fabricated. Would you not agree? But either way, I still love James Bond. (Not the man, you perverts! the movies! )

Edited by 00-FAN008, 27 July 2004 - 07:26 PM.

[Qwerty]

They're both realistic. Bond had his wife shot, nothing winning about that.

Good point, Qwerty.

However, I find the Bond movies slightly a bit fabricated. Would you not agree? But either way, I still love James Bond. (Not the man, you perverts! the movies! )

I think some Bond movies have more fantasy than others, but the character overall is realistic.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

jason bourne is good but nothing beats bond............




NOTHING!!!!!!

[Agent 76]

I like the feeling and the tone of the Jason Bourne movies , they are interesting to watch and very much enjoyable........why?????????? because they have a good plot (a thing the last bond films hadn't) , but I still prefer Bond.

You just know Bond rules baby!

[mattbowyer]

Definately Jack Bauer wins.

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

jason bourne is good but nothing beats bond............




NOTHING!!!!!!

I agree.

People, don't even mention Jason Bourne with James Bond. It's unhealthy...

...Bond is an icon.

Box-office numbers don't mean a thing!

[Qwerty]

jason bourne is good but nothing beats bond............




NOTHING!!!!!!

Gotta agree Finesse, when it comes to movie/book characters.

[Righty007]

Definately Jack Bauer wins.

I don't recall him being a choice.

[bond007vna]

Okay, so The Bourne Supremacy beat Die Another Day at the Box Office. As much as I enjoyed The Bourne Supremacy, James Bond is still better than Jason Bourne. What do you all think?

It's completely there aren't two opinions concerning all this at all :
James Bond-Agent 007 is James Bond-Agent 007 and that's it!!!

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

Just came back from watching "The Bourne Supremacy" again. Just to understand the film more. I must say I enjoyed it even more the first time. This film is special. It hawks back to the spy thrilling days of James Bond in FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS. This film has a combination of those films. It's a great Hitchcockian spy thriller. Ian Fleming would have preferred this kind of Bond in every film. Not the character of Jason Bourne, but the suspense, thrills, chills, everything DIE ANOTHER DAY and MOONRAKER isn't.

Now, to compare Bourne to Bond. There is no comparision. Bourne is a new breed of action hero, but in no way in hell is Bond. His films are much better then the recent ones, but as a character Bond is in a class of his own. Bourne is great, but Bond is a icon. Film, novel whatever, Bond is the man, and will forever be the greatest spy of them all.

See THE BOURNE SUPREMACY, it has everything to offer for a great movie. Matt Damon is perfect, and the action and cinematography are top-notch. A great movie.

[DanMan]

Bourne is good, but he's not Bond. Just wanna add that I think Supremecy will do Van Helsing type buissness and it will not outgross DAD domestically or worldwide. It only opened bigger than DAD by about 8 million and ticket prices have risen since 2002.

[00-FAN008]

I don't know why anyone would want to compare James Bond and Jason Bourne. I really like them both, and I think that they are not different, but unique in their own ways.

[Roebuck]

it will not outgross DAD domestically or worldwide. It only opened bigger than DAD by about 8 million and ticket prices have risen since 2002.

It doesn't have to outgross DAD to be a better earner. Since Supremacy had a much tighter budget than DAD (about $75 million) the Bourne sequel should break even at the box-office by this weekend, and everything else is gravy. Compare that with DAD, which walked away with less than $22 million profit on it's domestic release (most of which was eaten up by promotional costs).

[Righty007]

I just came back from seeing The Bourne Supremacy a second time.

[CommanderBond]

I like the realism that is portrayed in the Bourne movies which i think that bond should switch back to. Overall i like the adventerous feeling i get when i watch Bond movies so i of course i will say Bond over Bourne

[Jack Bauer]

Bond is a better spy in all, probably better with guns, too. Bourne, hand-to-hand would kill Bond.

I give the edge slightly to Bond, though. He has the experience.