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[M_Balje]

The title of the 21,22&23 Bond movie must be...

[oddjob]

As far as the trilogy goes, they definately should have the same actor for all three films. Having read the books, I have to say that they should definately be turned into films eventually because they are just sooooooo good!

I have written my own trilogy of films, just finished actually!
The titles:

DEATH IS AN ALLY

A FATE TOO COLD

SHAKEN, NOT STIRRED

What do you all think huh?

[Hardyboy]

General Koskov (30 May, 2002 03:24 a.m.):A Moonraker (or Moonsail) is the topmost sail on a square-rigged ship. It's used to catch the last bit of wind.

Well, I'll be darned. My friend the Patrick O'Brien geek is probably laughing at my ignorance right now.

[General Koskov]

Hardyboy (29 May, 2002 06:22 a.m.):
I looked this up on IMDB just for you, General. The Moonraker (IMDB gives the date as 1957--I would imagine 1958 is when it was released in America) is about a Royalist Earl played by George Baker who, disguised as "The Moonraker," smuggles Royalists out of England. He is now charged with saving King Charles I from Oliver Cromwell's troops. Will he succeed? Well, if history is any indication. . .

Thanks. Don't tell me if Charles lives, that and Die Another Day are a surprise! (Though the first will be looked up after I finish at CB.n.)

And I'm really not sure what a "moonraker" is. . .going by the theme song of the '79 film, I guess it's a prospector of some sort. Or maybe Hal David just needed to find some way to fit "Moonraker" into the blasted song. . .

Yes it was Hal David's way of making us think: What the [cuss] is this song about? Are they required to not be relevant to the film?

A Moonraker (or Moonsail) is the topmost sail on a square-rigged ship. It's used to catch the last bit of wind.

For those who aren't sailors: a square-rig ship is the kind with the sails perpendicular to the length of the ship. The other rig is Fore and Aft (the sails run along the length--or 'from fore to aft').

On a Fore and Aft rigged ship, the topmost sail is the 'skyscraper'. Hence the greatest (formerly) English port in the world, New York, got it's tallest buildings coined 'skyscrapers' because so many sailors were around the city.

[General Koskov]

Jim (29 May, 2002 07:10 a.m.):
1. The Moonraker and License to Kill granted, but this unbearable tosh Icebreaker was made in 1999, which makes it fairly proximate, and more relevantly appeared (that's "appeared") to be about a Russian supervillan taking over a skiing resort to retrieve some plutonium which was, amazingly enough, "beyond the ice". A Die Hard/Bond rip-off, a fate not befalling The Moonraker and License to Kill.

Actually sounds like a good base plot to me. I always pity a good action film that was never a Bond film.

[Hardyboy]

Actually, I've never heard of this Stacy Keach Icebreaker--do you know if it was a made-for-TV movie, something that went directly to video, or something that just sat on the shelves for three years? Whatever, I think that if EON really, really wanted to use Icebreaker as a title they could go ahead and use it, and not many people would be thinking, "They can't call it that! That's a Stacy Keach movie!" I mean it's not like "Pierce Brosnan as Ian Fleming's James Bond [007] in Gone with the Wind" or anything like that. . .

[Jim]

Hardyboy (28 May, 2002 11:23 p.m.):
Jim, first of all, congratulations on the impending blessed event. If it's a girl, just don't name her Honeychile, Pussy, Kissy, Plenty, or Octopussy.

As for Icebreaker being used before. . .well, there was a 1958 British film called The Moonraker (with future OHMSS and Spy costar George Baker) set during the English Revolution; and a 1964 French detective film called License to Kill. . .so I guess there's no reason for EON not to use Icebreaker.

Thanks, and both points noted.

1. The Moonraker and License to Kill granted, but this unbearable tosh Icebreaker was made in 1999, which makes it fairly proximate, and more relevantly appeared (that's "appeared") to be about a Russian supervillan taking over a skiing resort to retrieve some plutonium which was, amazingly enough, "beyond the ice". A Die Hard/Bond rip-off, a fate not befalling The Moonraker and License to Kill.

2. Isabella chooses the names. My choices (Fang or Turbo) were vetoed and I know not why. One week to go, unless sooner.

[The_Godfather]

Bond 21: Casino Royale

Bond 22: Zero Minus Ten

Bond 23: High Time to Kill (start of the Union Trilogy)

Bond 24: Doubleshot

Bond 25: Facts of Death (break away from Union for one movie)

Bond 26: Never Dream of Dying

[Three Blind Mice]

I would also love to see the Union trilogy be filmed.

i think seeing the bull fight sceens brought to life in Doubleshot would be one of the sweetest sequences in bonds tenure on the silver screen. ;D

[Evil Doctor Cheese]

I've never read the Union trilogy but I like the sound of using a trilogy and agree that they should take a break for one movie. I think they should use the Union trilogy for when the new Bond is ushered in.

[Hardyboy]

I looked this up on IMDB just for you, General. The Moonraker (IMDB gives the date as 1957--I would imagine 1958 is when it was released in America) is about a Royalist Earl played by George Baker who, disguised as "The Moonraker," smuggles Royalists out of England. He is now charged with saving King Charles I from Oliver Cromwell's troops. Will he succeed? Well, if history is any indication. . .

I don't know if these filmmakers knew anything about Fleming's novel, which did appear two years before the movie. (And which Fleming himself began as a film treatment, but that's the subject for another thread.) And I'm really not sure what a "moonraker" is. . .going by the theme song of the '79 film, I guess it's a prospector of some sort. Or maybe Hal David just needed to find some way to fit "Moonraker" into the blasted song. . .

[General Koskov]

What was 'The Moonraker' about? A sail?
Interesting that the producers of that film should not notice Fleming's book (and the radio drama of it, which I cannot find).

[Hardyboy]

Jim, first of all, congratulations on the impending blessed event. If it's a girl, just don't name her Honeychile, Pussy, Kissy, Plenty, or Octopussy.

As for Icebreaker being used before. . .well, there was a 1958 British film called The Moonraker (with future OHMSS and Spy costar George Baker) set during the English Revolution; and a 1964 French detective film called License to Kill. . .so I guess there's no reason for EON not to use Icebreaker.

[Jim]

Y'know, there's really damn all to do when your wife is waiting to go into hospital to give birth, so as a diversion from the tedium, last night (27th, fact fans) we tuned into something by the name of "Sky Moviemax" at 10 pm and witnessed half an hour (all that was bearable) of the most abject drivel I've seen for many years.

Stacy Keach was in it, which is always a sign.

A "David Giancola film", no less, and no less that swill.

Unfortunately, it was called "Icebreaker", so that's probably put an end to calling a Bond film that.

(Fair enough, I only gave it 30 minutes, and the remainder might have been art enough to make one weep beautiful tears. But I doubt that)

[MrDraco]

Queen and country is a cool title, i did a James Bond screenplay and that was its first title, i then changed it to "The Final Hour" due to the main villian's helicopter smashing in to the hour glass of big ben, i did the script last year, when i first got in to writing so it has a heck of alot of errors in it ..... and the dialoge is horrable... but an ok story i guess, nobodys really looked at but my self so who knows!....

[JAWS]

Howz about "It's Later Then You Think" for a future Bond title? (believe it or not, I got this from a Stan Freberg sketch)

[Smitty]

[quote]level007 (16 Sep, 2001 01:50 p.m.):
for the last 3 bonds of brosnan it has to be:

bond 21: high time to kill

bond 22: doubleshot

bond 23: Never dream of dying.


I think if they ever filmed these novels they should be 4 another actor 2 play Bond. I think Brosnan will "bow out gracefully" after his 5th, 2 make way 4 fresh blood & what perfect films they would make.
( I hear James Purefoy's a top candidate)

[scaramanga]

Trevelyan (04 Dec, 2001 07:37 a.m.):
I think its too soon to start guessing this now, save it for when it does come out.

(Though I would like to see the union trilogy)

Trevelyan's right, it's much too early to speculate about this. Let's just concentrate on Bond 20 for the moment.

[Icephoenix]

I think its too soon to start guessing this now, save it for when it does come out.

(Though I would like to see the union trilogy)

[Mister Asterix]

PaulZ108 (04 Dec, 2001 03:51 a.m.):
I'd like to see the "Union" trilogy by Benson filmed. I think Brosnan should go after Bond20 though, he's already nearly 50. Fleming's Bond was in his mid 30's and only slightly worn with specks of gray hairs. We don't need another senior citizen Bond. (I swear Moore was using a stuntman for walking in AVTAK)

I too like Level007's idea to film the Union trilogy. But I wouldn't mind Brosnan doing them on the condition that they are filmed every two years.

But no matter who plays Bond in the Trilogy I think that it is important for the actor to be signed to do all three. I wouldn't start the Trilogy with Bond 21 (or Bond 20) if Pierce is only signed for one film, I would wait for the next actor. It would be a shame if the Union Trilogy loses that trilogy feel because of changing actors the way the SPECTRE Trilogy did.

The other option I wouldn't mind seeing is original stories with the Union as villains. Or maybe Casino Royale with Le Chiffre having misappropriated funds from the mysterious new organization, the Union. And then work in some or all of Benson's Trilogy.

[bondgirl]

[quote]PaulZ108 (04 Dec, 2001 03:51 a.m.):
I'd like to see the "Union" trilogy by Benson filmed. I think Brosnan should go after Bond20 though,

Brosnan will return for Bond21.

[PaulZ108]

I'd like to see the "Union" trilogy by Benson filmed. I think Brosnan should go after Bond20 though, he's already nearly 50. Fleming's Bond was in his mid 30's and only slightly worn with specks of gray hairs. We don't need another senior citizen Bond. (I swear Moore was using a stuntman for walking in AVTAK)

[Zorin]

Adam (20 Jan, 2002 07:26 a.m.):
i don't like the trilogy idea...returning characters & storylines? I like every movie being a brand new premise

What if the villain escapes at the end of the movie, and then bond kills him in the pre title sequence? It was just an idea, It is ****py, but it is just an idea.

[General Koskov]

Did I already mention State of Excitement, or Risico? If I did, they deserve a second mention. They were created by Fleming, so they're good. (How naive!)

[kameleon]

Rate Higher Than Live
Stakes Higher Than Live

[General Koskov]

Like all except 'Shaken, not stirred'. Too cliched, and everyone forgets the 'and' between 'shaken' and 'not'. But the others are wonderful.

[Blofeld's Cat]

General Koskov (20 May, 2002 03:21 a.m.):

Blofeld's Cat (19 May, 2002 03:04 a.m.):
Bond 20: DAD = Die Another Day

Bond 21: MUM = Murder Under Mystery

Bond 22: KIDS = Killed In Dire Straights

Bond 23: DOG = Death Only Grieves

And then there's UNCLE, but I believe that's been done already!

He lives in the basement and no one speaks about him.

[General Koskov]

Blofeld's Cat (19 May, 2002 03:04 a.m.):
Bond 20: DAD = Die Another Day

Bond 21: MUM = Murder Under Mystery

Bond 22: KIDS = Killed In Dire Straights

Bond 23: DOG = Death Only Grieves

And then there's UNCLE, but I believe that's been done already!

[Tanger]

Bond 21: SHATTERHAND

Bond 22: EVERYTHING OR NOTHING

Bond 23: LIVE A LIFE OF DEATH

OK so the last one ain't too good; but the other two have to be used at some point. Also I think 'Black Sun' which was one of the rumoured Bond 20 titles, could work well with a different storyline.

[WC]

Bond 21 should be Casino Royale. I was hoping Bond 20 would be, given it was the 40th anniversary of the films (and if I'm not mistaken the 50th of the Casino Royale book?)

It's about time they used an original Ian Fleming book again - and all the past Bond actors apart from Pierce Brosnan have had at least 1 Fleming book to their credit. It would be a great way for Brosnan to end his run of Bond on.