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[Station Domino]

FYI for Clive Owen fans. He did some some black and white pics in the June 2004 GQ. I think the 2nd and 4th pic are Bond like. The other two are a little..... zanny.

That's ok. He still gets my vote to fill the shoes of 007.

[crashdrive]

http://www.murphspla...les/gq6-04.html

I don't know. He isn't very Bond-esque in these pictures. But then again, I don't think Owen is Bond material at all. He looked better in the 2002 shoot: http://www.murphspla...iles/gq/gq.html

[Loomis]

I don't require a handsome Bond.

[Martin Mystery]

http://www.murphspla...les/gq6-04.html

I don't know. He isn't very Bond-esque in these pictures. But then again, I don't think Owen is Bond material at all. He looked better in the 2002 shoot: http://www.murphspla...iles/gq/gq.html

Well, apparently a lot of people think he's Bond material... including the good people at EON

[H.M.Servant]

I think Clive Owen would be the best choice for Bond IMO. I saw him on the Jonathan Ross show a couple of weeks ago and he looked like he could be Bond. These pictures aren't really Bond-esque, but I think he still looks cool

[Martin Mystery]

I agree...

[SPECTRE ASSASSIN]

Even though he looks less stunning in terms of looks compared with the other Bond actors, I think it would be interesting to see him as 007.

[crashdrive]

Well, apparently a lot of people think he's Bond material... including the good people at EON

Hmm, perhaps. All we know is that he met with EON. That's not saying much. They also tested actors like Tom Selleck, James Brolin and Adam West

[Loomis]

Did Selleck, Brolin or West ever have the sort of following among Bond fans that Owen seems to? Even if the internet had been around at the time, I doubt that Bond fansites would have been full of threads calling for Selleck as the next 007. There are only two credible candidates right now (excluding Brosnan): Jackman and Owen. Owen's definitely the number two guy (although he may be number one as far as the folks at Eon are concerned - but I'm sure that MGM, the senior partner holding the purse strings, would much prefer Jackman), but that doesn't mean that he isn't a realistic contender.

[Athena007]

I just don't see him as Bond material and it's not because he's not handsome, he is in a certain way... but I guess I see Bond as a different kind of handsome that Clive Owen is not. In my eyes, if Clive Owen could be Bond then Tom Hanks could be Bond... and Tom Hanks could not be Bond (i think they have similar features).

[Martin Mystery]

I just don't see him as Bond material and it's not because he's not handsome, he is in a certain way... but I guess I see Bond as a different kind of handsome that Clive Owen is not. In my eyes, if Clive Owen could be Bond then Tom Hanks could be Bond... and Tom Hanks could not be Bond (i think they have similar features).

Clive Owen... Tom Hanks...? Sorry, you lost me there...

[Athena007]

Clive Owen... Tom Hanks...? Sorry, you lost me there...

It was a weird comparison, I know. But what I meant what that, for me I see Hanks and Owen on the same level -- looks wise, acting wise, etc. (others of course may not see it this way)... and I can't see either of them playing Bond. Of course I think Owen has the tallent to play Bond... but he's missing something and I can't quite put my finger on it.

[Martin Mystery]

Clive Owen... Tom Hanks...? Sorry, you lost me there...

It was a weird comparison, I know. But what I meant what that, for me I see Hanks and Owen on the same level -- looks wise, acting wise, etc. (others of course may not see it this way)... and I can't see either of them playing Bond. Of course I think Owen has the tallent to play Bond... but he's missing something and I can't quite put my finger on it.

Okay, Athena, let's just agree to disagree
I prefer Owen, but in all honesty I think Jackman's gonna get it (IF the producers really want to replace Brosnan). Jackman's more in the Brosnan mould - a safer choice. Owen would be a riskier choice.

[Athena007]

Okay, Athena, let's just agree to disagree

That

[Loomis]

Owen's the only guy I want to see as Bond. Failing Owen, I don't care who gets the role. Brosnan, Jackman, Orlando Bloom.... don't care.

[crashdrive]

I never said he's not a realistic candidate. Come on Loomis, you know me better than that. I just said he doesn't fit my mental image of Bond. I know Owen is one of the leading candidates, but that doesn't mean he autmatically fits the mold. Sam Neill almost was cast in 87, John Gavin almost in the early 70s; EON iaren't always right. Just because he's in the running, doesn't mean he's Bond material, at least not in my humble opinion. I just think Hugh Jackman & Christian Bale are by far more suitable choices.

[Martin Mystery]

Not Orlando Bloom surely?!
If Clive doesn't get the part, I think Hugh could pull it off.

[Athena007]

Not Orlando Bloom surely?!

Now there's something we can defiantly agree on

[Loomis]

I know Owen is one of the leading candidates, but that doesn't mean he autmatically fits the mold.

I want Owen because he doesn't fit the mould.

As for Bloom, I've been getting into the LORD OF THE RINGS films of late, and I've come to feel that he might be pretty good as Bond. I still much prefer Owen, though. Like I say, Owen's my choice, and if we don't get Owen then I don't really care who we get.

[TheSaint]

Hmm, perhaps. All we know is that he met with EON. That's not saying much. They also tested actors like Tom Selleck, James Brolin and Adam West

Adam West was never tested. He was asked & turned it down.

I'd like Owen to take over in Bond 22, after Brosnan does Bond 21. If Owen is stupid enough to turn down the role, I would deal with Jackman. Anybody else would be a wait & see thing.

[Glor (009)]

I'm not too thrilled with either of these choices. Owen looks a bit too much like a henchman and Jackman doesn't seem quite manly enough except when he has the Wolverine chops and added muscle. He looks like he drops 20 pounds or so between XMen films.

I've heard Collin Farrell mentioned in the past. I think he might be able to pull it off...In about 20 or 30 years.

Unfortunately I don't think there's anyone right now that will have the personality to keep Bond really alive for the next few movies. Pierce lived for the role and it showed in the early years. He hit the ground running with his helipcopter entrances to awards shows and his talk show circuits, etc.

I hope he does 21 and I hope that the next Bond has as much fun in the role.

[Jaelle]

Well I've always liked the idea of Clive Owen as the next Bond but I doubt it will happen.

However, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *not* that mousy Orlando Bloom that all the 10 year old girls love. He's like Leonardo diCaprio -- guys in their 20s and 30s who look like little 12 year old girls.

At this point I'd accept Jackman -- not my favorite, but I'd take him. Christian Bale's an interesting choice.

I think it's telling that we can't think of any obvious choices. It's remarkable how there are just NO actors around in the mold of Connery, Cary Grant, David Niven, even the lesser known Michael Rennie. For those too young to remember, Rennie (most famous for his role as Klaatu in the 1951 film THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL) was in a terrific (and quite popular) early TV series co-produced by the BBC and a US company called THE THIRD MAN. Rennie played an international industrialist called Harry Lime (yes, loosely based on the Welles character from the film but nothing like Welles' rotten Lime character at all) who got into various crime adventures and solved them. (His assistant was Jonathan Harris). Anyway, Rennie's Lime character was suave, debonair, dashing, handsome, a womanizer, and very Bondian. Rennie was 6'4" (some mags. described him as 6'3" or 6'3 & 1/2"), elegant, stylish, handsome.

That sort of actor just doesn't exist anymore. That's why I can enjoy watching Pierce. He's one of the last ones. Not quite as good as his predecessors but compared to incredibly BORING guys like Colin Farrell (yuck!!!), there's just no contest.

[Willie Garvin]

[quote name='Jaelle' date='1 June 2004 - 12:50'] Well I've always liked the idea of Clive Owen as the next Bond but I doubt it will happen.

However, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *not* that mousy Orlando Bloom that all the 10 year old girls love.

Edited by Willie Garvin, 01 June 2004 - 07:57 PM.

[Jaelle]

Ah Willie, it's so great to be able to converse with someone who remembers the classic era! I hadn't known about Slim Callahan at all!! I wish it were available on video somewhere, I absolutely adore Rennie!!! I've been trying to track down his early British work (some of it is available).

As to the rest of your post, agree, agree, agree. I really believe that the answer to the future Bond is an unknown (or little-known). But to do that, EON has to decide to live with the downside of hiring an unknown actor.

[Tarl_Cabot]

maybe they should just pull the plug on the series for good.











Ok ok let's have more 007 films...But we should get an unknown!

[Loomis]

However, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *not* that mousy Orlando Bloom that all the 10 year old girls love.

I thought you were a massive LOTR fan, Jaelle. Are you sure Bloom would necessarily be a terrible choice for Bond?

[Willie Garvin]

[quote name='Jaelle' date='1 June 2004 - 14:45'] Ah Willie, it's so great to be able to converse with someone who remembers the classic era!

Edited by Willie Garvin, 01 June 2004 - 07:06 PM.

[SeanValen00V]

Owen seems like he's not going to age well in the coming years, not everyone ages as well as Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore, if Owen was ever going to play Bond, he should of started 2 years ago, but Brosnan is Bond, and Brosnan looked about the same age as Owen now is in DAD.





People think fresh faces are the answer, well they can be, of cource they can, but if they can't find a unknown, then you got to go with someone more established, the problem is, there's not many established stars.

Hugh Jackman should play Bond in 2007, it's not the question of him being popular or not, I just think he's very likable screen presence, and alot of men respect him as Wolverine and his other roles, and then the women like him, that's Bond enough, if you win over either gender you've made it.

If Mel Gibson wanted to be Bond in Goldeneye he could have.


We may of just been lucky not to have a movie star as Bond in the past, but we came so close on occassions. If any star is wanting by the public to be Bond, then it's good for Bond I say, and Jackman is very popular for Bond, he's a great actor as well and he's going to be the right age to start fresh as Bond and have his movies of Bond, what more can you ask for, it's the most toughest role to cast, your never going to 100% until you've seen the new Bond play Bond, you can't go too wrong with Hugh Jackman.


There's no point posting pictures of Owen now, unless he's doing Bond 21, if were talking Bond 22, that's 3 years he's going to age, and he looks like he should of done about 2 Bond movies already, long term he's isn't worth establishing if he's going to look too old too quick.

Edited by SeanValen00V, 01 June 2004 - 07:00 PM.

[Jaelle]

However, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE *not* that mousy Orlando Bloom that all the 10 year old girls love.

I thought you were a massive LOTR fan, Jaelle. Are you sure Bloom would necessarily be a terrible choice for Bond?

Hey there Loomie!

I may be a big LOTR fan but that doesn't mean I'm mad about the whole cast. For instance, I love Christopher Lee and I like his Saruman just fine, but I wouldn't have cast him as Saruman. Saruman in the books is a much more ambiguous, mysterious character. Bloom was perfectly serviceable as Legolas (tho I'm sure there were more interesting choices out there for the character). I liked him fine in LOTR.

But as Bond??? Not! He's nice looking young boy but he's no James Bond.

[Turn]

The Bond films once made stars.They didn't star stars.That's changed and I don't think that's the right direction Eon should go in.There are any number of fine actors perfectly suited to be 007 who the public will love as much as Connery Moore and Brosnan(maybe even moreso)who'll never have the chance to play Bond because only famous people play Bond and they can't become famous as Bond because they aren't famous.

I don't know if I agree here. The series has had to make changes over 42 years to stay afloat. The game in Hollywood and its younger audience has changed, and having somebody established come in will bring in audiences already familiar with someone like Jackman through his other work.

Brosnan had the advantage of a popular television series behind him and some recognition, although not a hugely high profile when he got the role. He had a strong female following as well which helped.

That doesn't mean I don't think an Owen or Gruffaud would work, but the suits worry more about what the lowest common denominator would take.