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[SeanConnery007]

I have just watched Goldeneye again and I have decided that it is the best bond film ever made! Its got every element you could want in a bond film and it was all executed perfectly. What do you guys think?

[Xenia's Ferrari]

goldeneye is put together well. a agree with you. more bond films like goldneye, i say.

[Righty007]

I love GoldenEye! It is Pierce Brosnan's second best film after The World Is Not Enough.

[Johnboy007]

It's the first I ever saw in theaters. I think it's the best Brosnan film.

[Athena007]

GoldenEye ROXXX (aka: rocks, if you can't handle creativity with letters ) !!! ...hee hee... I can watch that film over an over again. They really got 007 right!!!

You think EoN and the writers will ever give us another "GoldenEye"?

Man, they really DID rock our socks off with GE... the movie, the video game, the plot, the music, Brosnan, Sean Bean, Xenia, Natalya, Boris. I mean come on... I have nothing to complain about when it comes to GE

GE: Yahoo! no problems!
TND: oh gawd, so many problems. Though the actors were good, it just didn

[SeanConnery007]

i think they could do another goldeneye they should bring back martin cambell to direct bond 21 that could help

[Doubleshot]

Eh.

GoldenEye was a good Bond film, but here's what keeps me from placing it as high on my Bond ranking list as high as say, Die Another Day or The World is Not Enough:

Peter Lamont's production design. You could say that this was because Phil Maheux's lighting or because of the (comparatively low) $60 million budget, but look what Ken Adam did with his portion of the $1 million budget with Dr. No! Weak, and not very interesting.

Terrible score by Eric Serra. Terrible. Not only is it a James Horner-style lift of previous Serra scores, but it's just a marine assault on the ears. It too makes this film seem cheap and unpolished when it is anything but. Uneven and unprofessional.

Uneven cinematography by Phil Mehuex. On one hand, there is some great, atmospheric lighting and photography for the early scenes in the film in Monte Carlo and in the end for the exterior Cuba scenes, but take a look at the St. Petersberg scenes and find dull photography darkening an even more dreary location. So that's two complaints, I guess.

As much as I love Lindy Hemming's work for the next three films, I can't help but feel like she decided to see how un-sharp we can make Bond look in his suits. What an expirement. Although, Brosnan does look great in that Brioni tux.

Atrocious special effect work. This could be due to Derek Meddings' declining health during the film and the work that had to be done extra on a low budget, but I can't see how so many let Die Another Day slide when GoldenEye, in my opinion, has the worst effects work of all the Brosnan films. Look at that horrible projection during the pre-titles plane dive, or when Bond and Natalya use the Tiger helicopter escape pod, or the body of the shots at the end of the film when the antenna rises out of the lake.

[Qwerty]

My very first Bond film. Always will love it.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Although entertaining i think it has huge plot holes: The opening sequence for starters: Wasn't 006 shot dead? Why did he live? Why is he mad at Bond? Why did he become a cheesy money hungry villian if he had a very exciting life as a 00 agent? If he's an adreniline junky like most agents/special forces guys are why would he want to be like Blofeld? Why does this film look like a TV movie on TV? Why is the score and song so poor?

[Qwerty]

007Forever.com has some good articles about GoldenEye there.

[Tarl_Cabot]

It's not better than LTK!

[Joyce Carrington]

DAD: JinX... double gack, Denice was better than Halle Berry

EXACTLY!!!!

[Colonel Moon]

GoldenEye is overrated. In my opinion TWINE and TND are the best Pierces Bond. GoldenEye seems little boring especially in St Petersburg

[Kingdom Come]

Its Brozzies best, followed by Die Another Day. But I can't rate it the best, as it just takes all the past strengths of the Bond series and redoes them again. There's nothing original in the film except Eric Serra's sublime score; which unlike Arnold's 'cover versions' does not rip off/copy past Bond scores. His score is so atmospheric and right for the film. Good cast as well. And stunning titles. The film has one error and its the obvious lense on the camera for the wide shot on the beach. Even an amatur cameraman would never use such a blatant effect - what were they thinking off!!!!!

[Agent 76]

Not the best, but one of the best!

(it's not an MGM picture )

[EDIT: Yes, it was]

Edited by zencat, 25 February 2004 - 04:22 AM.

[SeanConnery007]

i think what made goldeneye good is that they knew they had one chance to save the franchise and they did

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Not the best of all the films, but pretty damn good. The villains are great, plot is good, and the score is alright for the atmosphere of the film. The downsides are the aforementioned plot holes which really stick out in the film and are hard to ignore once you see them once or twice. The pretitles sequence with the miraculous location switch from the bottom of a dam to the top of a mountain really bothers me. Also pretty audacious of them to set the scene in 1986 and have Joe Don Baker come back to play an ally. Little things like that detract from the enjoyment of the film.

It's the same sort of thing with a scene in DAD (other than the entire last third of the film itself): when Bond jumps ship, after he goes over, you can see Brosnan's hand sort of flail up a little from when he hit the padding. Additionally, it would appear that Brosnan feels the need to grab his teeth and make a groaning sound after he gets out of the water. Very hard to ignore as well, and Lord knows I've tried.

[Triton]

I don't agree that it's the best Bond film ever made. Certainly it was entertaining and very welcome after the six year hiatus. But the film has many problems, some of which were outlined by Doubleshot. I am not as negative as Kingdom Come about the film.

[Kingdom Come]

I called Goldeneye Brosnan's best - negative?

[Triton]

Sorry Kingdom Come. OK everyone, just ignore the last sentence in my previous post.

[YOLT]

Goldeneye is the worst of Brosnan and one of the worst of the series. Its just boring and its too personal. It has its parts but when compared to TND it just sucks. I know everybody will say, TND is too much action, blah blah etc, by the way I love the older films of Connery and Moore, and dont like Brosnans other films TWINE and DAD that much. James Bond is an secret agent, and if Bond 21 will be another personal film, I hope Bond will die. Just your mission Mr.Bond.

[Qwerty]

I will agree that Tomorrow Never Dies is one of the very best Bond films ever, I don't think the action harms the film at all. But I think there are many films that are far more personal that Goldeneye, I think it occupies a nice middle ground, a great film.

[Kingdom Come]

Too much action in TND!!!! where? Tell me where this too much action is? Count the major set pieces [not weak kung-fo fights please] count them and you will see at least 3 major action sequences are missing - because of the very tight pre-production/post production they had on the film.

An example; after the gun barrel we open on Bond climbing a frozen waterfall - they didnt have the 2 weeks to shoot it so they tore out those pages from the script and this was just the first of many torn pages.

[Harmsway]

I think GoldenEye is Brosnan's best effort and a fantastic Bond film. It has a terrific screenplay (for plot, dialogue, and characters), a terrific cast, and terrific action (okay, so it's not heavy on the action, but the little action is well thought out and excellently put together).

Brosnan gives his finest performance in this film. Brosnan's Bond has always had many layers, but here he's able to make the "emotional" moments work. The way he's visibly shaken after seeing 006 "die" is great.

[SeanConnery007]

yes that was a great moment but the best was in LTK when dalton shows sanchez the felix and della lighter it was great

[worship_decks_rule]

I agree that Goldeneye is a very good Bondfilm and it's placed in my personal top 5 of Bond total. Close to Goldeneye comes The World is not Enough, which will be placed 6th or 7th I think. Goldeneye is very good but has some minor nits I'm quite distracted by, too difficult to explain here though.

[KMHPaladin]

With the benefit of hindsight, I tend to agree that Goldeneye is the best of the Brosnan movies. I feel this way chiefly because of the plot. TND's plot was pretty ridiculous, TWINE had a good pretense but a bad way of achieving the end result, and DAD was just moronic. Goldeneye, on the other hand, had a plot which drew from current events and didn't try to stretch the truth too far. As others have said, it was also my first Bond movie in the theater, and the revitalizing effect it had on the franchise can't be ignored. I will grant that its soundtrack was sadly lacking and that some of the special effects could have been done better, but I'll take anything from Goldeneye over the ridiculous CGI surfing in DAD.

[americanbond]

I've found GoldenEye to be a great movie to watch at night. It's one of my favorites overall. OHMSS however won film survivor

Things i like about GE:
- pre-titles
- title sequence and song
- the score i love (yes its true!)
- villain
- girls
- locations
- archives fight and then the tank chase
- the final fight
- secondary characters

I believe its the best Brosnan bond film. In my mind, I think it might be the best film out of the bond films, but not the best bond-film. I just don't think the "bond mood" is conveyed very effectively, although it was written very well to do so. That is why its one I probably like watching at night... the other ones just get me in such a "bond mood" and I have to watch another one .

[deth]

I think it's good that Serra only did the one score....... because it just happened to perfectly suit this film......... if he did that for any other Bond film..........ugh...............*shudder*

[The Living Legendary 007]

Goldeneye is indeed the best bondfilm.It got all the bondelements and good actors.Good villain and henchmen(our Famke Janssen).And OHMSS is a boring movie.I always fell a sleep there.