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#1 License To Kill

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 11:53 PM

Yes, Timothy Dalton wasn't only just James Bond! For the few who thought that he was, you're wrong. He is an accomplished thespian and a great all-around actor. Clearly we see his acting abilities more so in his non-Bond films. My personal favorite is Timeshare. The made-for-TV starring Nastassja Kinski and Dalton as two single parents sharing a timeshare waterfront property. Quite a funny premise if you can picture Dalton as a single dad! Its a good film that is usually on ABC Family here in the States.

Also another favorite of mine is The Informant. This extremely low-budget film about the IRA and the dealings in Ireland. I enjoyed Dalton's role as Detective Rennie. Very convincing and cold-hearted. Loved it.

Lets hear your thoughts on his other great movies!

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 12:10 AM

I really liked The Rocketeer. It was an innocent, wondrous, old-fashioned matinee adventure with lovable characters. Timothy was just brilliant in his villain role. He combined the dashing romanticism of Errol Flynn with the brooding intelligence of James Bond to create a memorably creepy character. He was great fun in the part.

He was also good in a relatively small role as a cold-hearted husband who divorces Agatha Christie in 1979's Agatha (with Dustin Hoffman).

I didn't mind Brenda Starr, either. The film itself was a disgusting mess, the script must have been written by a 3-year-old. But I'll admit it was fun, in a so-bad-it's-good campy sort of way. Brooke Shields was easy on the eye in all her various outfits, and I thought Dalton was interesting as a one-eyed soldier of fortune. He seemed to know the type of film he was in, and played things to the hilt. Self-conciously charming.

Edited by Chaotician, 30 January 2004 - 12:15 AM.


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Posted 30 January 2004 - 12:26 AM

Yes, Timothy Dalton wasn't only just James Bond! For the few who thought that he was, you're wrong. He is an accomplished thespian and a great all-around actor. Clearly we see his acting abilities more so in his non-Bond films. My personal favorite is Timeshare. The made-for-TV starring Nastassja Kinski and Dalton as two single parents sharing a timeshare waterfront property. Quite a funny premise if you can picture Dalton as a single dad! Its a good film that is usually on ABC Family here in the States.

Also another favorite of mine is The Informant. This extremely low-budget film about the IRA and the dealings in Ireland. I enjoyed Dalton's role as Detective Rennie. Very convincing and cold-hearted. Loved it.

Lets hear your thoughts on his other great movies!

I believe you're thinking of Timeshare. There are several non-Bond Dalton movies that I want to see but haven't had the chance to. I can say that my favorite TV apperance of him was on Tales From The Crypt. He was great as a mysterious adventurer in a werewolf mystery. He displayed both great humor and a terrific scene where he kicked the gun away from this old man(You have to see it to understand).

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 12:26 AM

My favorite is Cromwell with Richard Harris, Alec Guiness and fellow Bond veterans Geoffrey Keen and Charles Gray. A classic historical epic in the style of Braveheart. Dalton does a brilliant job as the foppish Prince Rupert.

The Rocketeer is a close 2nd. Dalton seemed to have a lot of fun as the Errol Flynn-ish Neville Sinclair in that one. His scenes with Jennifer Connelly in the nightclub come off very slick and Bondian.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 02:24 AM

Hate to go with the flow, but I gotta say Rocketeer. I haven't seen the film for years but Dalton was unforgettable, even after all this time.

One of these days maybe i'll be lucky enough to see him on stage.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 02:28 AM

Yes, Timothy Dalton wasn't only just James Bond! For the few who thought that he was, you're wrong. He is an accomplished thespian and a great all-around actor. Clearly we see his acting abilities more so in his non-Bond films. My personal favorite is Timeshare. The made-for-TV starring Nastassja Kinski and Dalton as two single parents sharing a timeshare waterfront property. Quite a funny premise if you can picture Dalton as a single dad! Its a good film that is usually on ABC Family here in the States.

Also another favorite of mine is The Informant. This extremely low-budget film about the IRA and the dealings in Ireland. I enjoyed Dalton's role as Detective Rennie. Very convincing and cold-hearted. Loved it.

Lets hear your thoughts on his other great movies!

I believe you're thinking of Timeshare. There are several non-Bond Dalton movies that I want to see but haven't had the chance to. I can say that my favorite TV apperance of him was on Tales From The Crypt. He was great as a mysterious adventurer in a werewolf mystery. He displayed both great humor and a terrific scene where he kicked the gun away from this old man(You have to see it to understand).

Didn't I say Timeshare?

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 02:30 AM

I haven't seen to many of his other work, but I did enjoy The Rocketeer, I thought that was a fun movie.
I also The Beautician and the Beast, with Fran Dresher, and believe me, he is the only good part about the movie, and had a few funny moments.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 03:06 AM

Read the Signature!
Flash Gordon most definitely
Beautician and The Beast second.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 03:41 PM

Flash Gordon and The Rocketeer.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 09:15 PM

I like Flash Gordon and a little movie called Hawks with a pre-ER Anthony Edwards. They play terminal cancer patients who break away from their hospice to live a little bit and trying not to think about their fate. It's a nice little film and gives Dalton a chance to show his humorous side.

I'm surprised Jaelle hasn't jumped on this thread yet.

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 10:09 PM

Did anyone see The Doctors and the Devils with good ole Tim in it? Sounded rather interesting,but I haven't been able to find it lately....

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 11:49 PM

I like Flash Gordon and a little movie called Hawks with a pre-ER Anthony Edwards. They play terminal cancer patients who break away from their hospice to live a little bit and trying not to think about their fate. It's a nice little film and gives Dalton a chance to show his humorous side.

I'm surprised Jaelle hasn't jumped on this thread yet.

:) Give me time, Turn, give me time! The problem with this thread is that it's a subject I can go on about at too much length and am always far too willing to talk about!! So all you guys who are sick of me raving on about Timboy....go to another thread right now! :)

You folks have mentioned some good ones...

The Informant - a gritty original Showtime film Tim did around 1997 in which he plays a tough, nasty, bigoted loyalist police detective in Northern Ireland who's trying to apprehend NRA terrorists; Tim sports a really scratchy beard and a mean accent...he's just really mean!

Agatha, 1979 -- again, Tim is SO ROTTEN as poor Agatha Christie's philandering husband. Co-starring Vanessa Redgrave and Dustin Hoffman (and directed by future Bond director Michael Apted), this was one of Tim's early high-profile films that got loads of attention during the period when he was getting so much industry and press attention as being "on the brink of stardom" (Tim was *always* "on the brink of stardom"!)

Time Share (aka "Bitter Suite" in Europe), 2000 - a US/German co-production, produced by Nastassia Kinski, a nice little romantic comedy showcasing Tim's terrific abilities with kids; often shown on US TV's Family channel, the version shown here is not the complete one---a couple of great scenes are cut (incl. a funny sex scene).

Cromwell, 1970 - another one of Tim's high-profile films, starring Alec Guinness and Richard Harris; a terrific historical film marred only by (imo) Harris' poor interpretation of Cromwell himself. I love the scene in which Tim's character (badly injured, exhausted, having sacrificed so much for his king) is savagely berated by the king (Guinness).

Beautician & the Beast, 1996 - a light romantic comedy produced by Fran Drescher and her husband as her first major project after her TV show ended. Tim loved to doing it it was the first time he was given the opportunity to do comedy on film (he'd done a lot of it on stage). I think there are some really funny jokes in the film. It's incredibly silly nonsense but I would've enjoyed it even without Tim (Kevin Kline was Fran Drescher's first choice for Tim's role). Tim and Fran had great chemistry and Fran wound up saying the same thing I've read so many of his co-stars say: "he's very nice on the eyes and I thoroughly enjoyed kissing him." His long-time girlfriend and mother of his child, Oksana, can be seen briefly in the film as the pianist in the orchestra at the party scene (she's a concert pianist in real life).

Booyeah mentioned Tim's episode of Tales From the Crypt (1992) -- the "old man" he referred to was none other than Walter Gotell, playing an old Nazi who Tim (playing a werewolf hunter) shoots in the head. Tim is very nasty and sexy in this one! A personal favorite, but it's too short!

(BTW, you can get most of these cheaply on video or dvd, and a lot of them are repeated often on various US channels; if you get digital or satellite TV, you have more chance of catching them on reruns).

One of my favorite Tim projects is a documentary - In the Company of Wolves on the National Geographic channel from 1994. Tim traveled with wolf experts for a year in the wilds of Alaska and other cold places in the US and Canada looking for wolves. He narrates it and you see him roughing it in various locales trying to find wolves and finally meeting up with them.

I had to laugh at Chaotician's mention of Brenda Starr! LOL!! This film was made in 1986 and due to lawsuits and federal investigations of the producers, it was only released 6 years later. (It was the film that Tim had to finish before doing TLD). It was meant as a showcase for the young starlet Brooke Shields, intended as her first major film role. It's hilariously BAD!! But I love ogling Tim running around wearing a Zorro-like outfit and an eyepatch always rescuing Brooke just in the nick of time. Brooke's verdict on Tim: "Timothy Dalton is very sweet and very sexy, it was nice kissing him." (She was about 19, he was 39 or so).

I put Sextette (1978) along with Brenda Starr as Tim's contribution to Hollywood kitsch (Tim called Sextette his "contribution to vaudeville.") It was Mae West's last film and she chose him specifically to play her sixth husband. It co-starred a zillion big names and Tim played a guy who winds up being a secret British agent who's "bigger than James Bond!" And Tim actually sings! *shudder*

Ok, my very special favorites (other than both Bond films):

1. #1 among all true Timothy Dalton fans is his biggest audience success: Jane Eyre. Almost overnight, this 1983 BBC two-part miniseries caused Dalton fan clubs to spring up all over the place. He had an enormous impact in Russia especially, where even today there are websites and fan clubs devoted to him due to Jane Eyre and later the Bond films. The series was labeled the best TV production of that year by various critics, including the NY Times, Variety and the LA Times. The Times of London called him "a Byronically sexual Rochester." British members of this forum who remember the impact that Colin Firth had on the female British population with Pride & Prejudice will understand the type of impact Tim had on women after Jane Eyre was broadcast---it was the same hysteria. It's not that he just looked and sounded incredibly gorgeous but it featured his strongest talent: his powerful ability with *language* and *repressed emotion*. Since Tim asked to severely cut down the dialogue in his Bond films, Bond fans are not aware of Tim's ability with difficult dialogue. He's really quite remarkable in his command of language.

2. The Lion in Winter, 1968 - Tim's film debut; he was specifically chosen by Peter O'Toole for his role in the film; his primary scene with O'Toole is exquisite, it's amazing to watch this young actor hold his own with someone like O'Toole. And his work with Hopkins is one of my favorite scenes in any film, ever.

3. Framed, 1993 - this four-hour BBC production was shown on A&E in the US as a two-hour film; Tim plays a police informant who's also a rich, sexy art dealer who has his own harem of beautiful girls (incl. the young Penelope Cruz) and manages to corrupt a young police officer to steal a stash of money and escape from the police. As critic John Leonard said, "Dalton is superb" in this; interestingly, the writer Lynda LaPlante (who created the series with Helen Mirren PRIME SUSPECT) wrote the story with Tim specifically in mind after she met a criminal and former police informant who had facial reconstructive surgery and had asked the doctors to make his face look like Timothy Dalton.

4. Possessed, 2000 - another original Showtime film in which Tim plays a 1940s hard-drinking priest in St. Louis (he slugs a cop, fights with some thugs, curses....not your stereotypical priest). He's brilliant in this film, struggling with his traumatic experience in the war, dealing with a young boy who's possessed with such gentleness, and with his own doubts about his faith... It's based on the US' only documented exorcism.

4. The Rocketeer, 1991 -- what can I say that hasn't already been said? Tim's the best thing in the film!

5. The King's Whore, 1990 - an independent film in which Tim plays a king who falls passionately and destructively in love with the wife of one of his ministers; Tim does a lot of fencing and fighting and lovemaking!

6. Lie Down with Lions - not a great film but Tim is fantastic as a morally conflicted CIA agent; he does a lot of great action stunts, beats up a couple of skinheads, whacks a KGB agent with a baseball bat and shoots him, has some great love scenes with Marg Helgenberger, works great with Omar Sharif... I love it!

7. Antony & Cleopatra, 1983 - this is a theatrical production of the Shakespearean play that was filmed for video. It's also available on dvd. It's fantastic. It co-stars Lynn Redgrave and various well-known US character actors. Tim is just brilliant as Antony, just riveting!

8. Hawks, 1988 - Tim plays a cancer patient and has some very moving scenes, a sweet black comedy.

8. The Reef (aka Passion's Way), 1999 - a CBS telefilm with Sela Ward and Leslie Caron set in the 19th century, a romantic drama adaptation of an Edith Wharton story; Tim plays an American diplomat caught in a triangle.

8. Wuthering Heights, 1971 - when Tim was hired to play Heathcliffe, Laurence Olivier was quoted as saying that he "wouldn't have chosen anyone else" to play the role he'd made so famous in the 1930s. The film got mixed reviews but I think Tim is absolutely wonderful playing "a beast in a man's shape."

9. El Hombre Que Supo Amar, 1977 - ("The Man Who Knew How to Love") - a highly regarded Spanish film set in the 16th century in which Tim plays a young bookseller who gets caught in the Inquisition politics of the period. Tim is just amazing in this film, he's so human and innocent and decent and compassionate.

IndyB007 asked about The Doctor & the Devils, 1985... it was based on a story by Dylan Thomas, it's sometimes repeated on the Starz/Encore network. It was another one of Tim's high-profile films. He played the lead and co-starred with Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Pryce and Sian Philips. He plays a brilliant doctor in the 19th century fighting against the prejudices of the period that prohibited doctors and medical students to work with corpses in examining the human body. In his zeal to get corpses, unfortunately for him, he winds up getting involved with some street criminals who start killing people so the doctor will pay them for fresh corpses. I love Tim in this but he appears far too infrequently for me, tho he is the lead!

There's also his endearing performance in the popular 1978 miniseries CENTENNIAL, which was his major introduction to US TV audiences. Although they'd first seen him in the massively hyped episode of Charlie's Angels in which he played Farrah Fawcett's lover, "Fallen Angel." The episode got a lot of PR because it marked Fawcett's return to the show (she was the "It" girl of the time). Tim's character was a suave British thief described as having "James Bondian tastes."

I've also seen Tim in three plays and am about to see him next month in London in HIS DARK MATERIALS. In that play one critic said "he really looks like someone who could lead a war against God!" and another said "when he finally appears on the stage, you suddenly remember the powerful voices of past generations of British stage actors; you suddenly remember what we've lost."

You can see what he looks like in the play here:

http://www.nationalt...mpl=whatsonpics

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 12:59 AM

What's Dalton like at accents. I heard he tried to do a deep south accent and was poor

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 04:47 AM

The Rocketeer is like my all time favorite childhood movie. I've always said that if Dalton had played Bond like he did Neville Sinclair it would have been awesome. I like the job he did, but I still think he lacked sophistication in TLD/LTK.

Great score to that film too. :)

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:06 PM

What's Dalton like at accents. I heard he tried to do a deep south accent and was poor

Depends. I thought his German accent in Rocketeer was pretty damned good but then I'm not a German. For SCARLETT (a project that I will *never* forgive him for!) he--like other cast members--worked at getting the specific Charleston southern accent that Rhett Butler came from. My reaction to his accent on that miniseries was just to shrug and think "it sounds ok, not great, not awful." His Scottish accent in SALTWATER MOOSE sounded pretty convincing to me (very thick) and his rought northern Irish accent in THE INFORMANT sounded pretty good to my uneducated ears. He did an Oklahoma accent in MADE MEN and I thought it sounded better than his Charleston accent. He's done several films with a nondescript American accent which is unconvincing if you know how he's British and how he sounds when he's talking in his native accent.

But a lot of American TV viewers and moviegoers who *don't* know that he's British don't know he's doing an accent. He's often said that a lot of viewers think he's American because he's done several American character roles on TV and film. Since he's lived in the US for so many years, his British accent has diminished over time so that sometimes when he's just talking in an interview, he sounds like an American who's been abroad or who's from an upper class Boston family or something. He always works hard at trying to get an accent right, but I wouldn't say he's particularly gifted at all of them. Some he does better than others. But then again, that's just from my subjective uneducate viewpoint -- I'm not from Germany or Ireland or Scotland or Charleston.

I forgot to mention two other favorite Tim roles: Sheriff Dex in MADE MEN (another VERY nasty character who's involved with Jim Belushi's mistress; in one scene he gives her one long full kiss and then the next moment he shoots her in the head) and Prince Barin in FLASH GORDON. :)

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:21 PM

Cheers. : :) My sister said, don't take offense at this, "Thank goodness, he's not the new James Bond, I can't stand his accent." His accent doesn't bother me. It's not posh-English, sometimes it's Welsh. Some may say "Obviously" but the fact that he's Welsh born doesn't neccessarily mean he'll speak with a Welsh accent.

I think the easiest accent to imitate is "General" American. In fact to our ears the Southern Irish accent is very similar to General American. Americans will disagree.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 11:39 PM

What's Dalton like at accents. I heard he tried to do a deep south accent and was poor

For SCARLETT (a project that I will *never* forgive him for!) he--like other cast members--worked at getting the specific Charleston southern accent that Rhett Butler came from. My reaction to his accent on that miniseries was just to shrug and think "it sounds ok, not great, not awful."


Actually coming from that part of the territory and living in that place for almost all of my life, except for four years out of state, I can assure it wasn't Charleston accent. Just an imitation. Charleston accents kind of sets itself apart from some of the other regions in SC, because some people from Charleston sound like there from the Islands. I notice there's a notable difference between a person from Columbia or Florence (Bondfinesse know what I'm talking about) and Charleston. Timothy Did look the part, goodness they should left it at the first film instead making a sequel. Whoops.





Prince Barin in FLASH GORDON. :)

Of course how could anyone resist Good old Dalton in those Green tights.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:14 PM

[quote name='007luvchild2' date='2 February 2004 - 19:39'] [/QUOTE]
Actually coming from that part of the territory and living in that place for almost all of my life, except for four years out of state, I can assure it wasn't Charleston accent. Just an imitation. Charleston accents kind of sets itself apart from some of the other regions in SC, because some people from Charleston sound like there from the Islands. I notice there's a notable difference between a person from Columbia or Florence (Bondfinesse know what I'm talking about) and Charleston. Timothy Did look the part, goodness they should left it at the first film instead making a sequel. Whoops.[/QUOTE]
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Very interesting reply re the accent, luvchild! As for Scarlett, blame it on the idiots who run the Margaret Mitchell estate for a) authorizing a book sequel to the original novel in the first place and :) hiring the awful romance novelist Alexandra Ripley to do it. It was her truly horrible novel that the miniseries was based on. Once the estate did all that, a dramatization on film or TV became inevitable. *Blech!* Yes, Tim looked great (and he bulked up for the role; he looked more muscular than when he played Bond) but yeesh!

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 03:45 PM

IndyB007 asked about The Doctor & the Devils, 1985... it was based on a story by Dylan Thomas, it's sometimes repeated on the Starz/Encore network. It was another one of Tim's high-profile films. He played the lead and co-starred with Patrick Stewart, Jonathan Pryce and Sian Philips. He plays a brilliant doctor in the 19th century fighting against the prejudices of the period that prohibited doctors and medical students to work with corpses in examining the human body. In his zeal to get corpses, unfortunately for him, he winds up getting involved with some street criminals who start killing people so the doctor will pay them for fresh corpses. I love Tim in this but he appears far too infrequently for me, tho he is the lead!

Hey, thanks for the info. Looks like I should track down a copy and give it a viewing.....

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 05:00 PM

I'd have to say FRAMED is one of my favorites. How he entices, persuades and eventually corrupts the detective who caught him is great.

He was great in THE ROCKETEER- an underrated film IMO and one with a cult following. Why Disney chose to market this as family entertainment is beyond me(they folded a man in half fer chrissakes).

POSSESSED was decent, one can't say Dalton doesn't vary his roles.

I'm not thinking about the green tights he wore in FLASH GORDON, just the way he said "Lying bitch" to Ornela Muti.

I'm curious. just how good was he in THE LION IN WINTER? I heard that was the role that got him so much notice and cause the folks at EON to consider him to replace Connery.

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 10:26 PM

From Robinson:

<He was great in THE ROCKETEER- an underrated film IMO and one with a cult following. Why Disney chose to market this as family entertainment is beyond me(they folded a man in half fer chrissakes).>

Every time I watch that movie, I fast forward past that scene. The first time I saw it, I was absolutely horrified! I couldn't believe they were showing this to kids! Sure you don't see anything but you hear the guy's screams and your imagination is allowed to run rampant... and if you've got a vivid one like I do, well...to this day, I just try to blot out that image!

<I'm not thinking about the green tights he wore in FLASH GORDON, just the way he said "Lying bitch" to Ornela Muti. >

Well I'm thinking of both actually... :)

<I'm curious. just how good was he in THE LION IN WINTER? I heard that was the role that got him so much notice and cause the folks at EON to consider him to replace Connery.>

It's one of his most highly praised roles. Critics use words like "exquisite," "superb" phrases like "showed he could hold his own against the impeccable O'Toole." People who don't care for him as Bond praise him nonetheless for his role in LION IN WINTER. The whole film is full of exceptional performances. Hopkins is fantastic. Tim's appearance in the film did indeed get him lots of attention for more movies but also from the fan magazines like Photoplay, esp. the teen mags like Britain's Fabulous and the US' Seventeen and 16. He got several centerfolds in those mags -- I have a few; hilarious stuff, with young Tim wearing those ruffled early 70s shirts. :)

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Posted 07 February 2004 - 03:24 AM

Probably mentioned in the thread but, for you older folks out there that remember Charlie's Angels of U.S. 70's TV fame, Tim was a guest star on it. Great episode!

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 02:55 PM

Probably mentioned in the thread but, for you older folks out there that remember Charlie's Angels of U.S. 70's TV fame, Tim was a guest star on it. Great episode!

Yeah I have that episode on tape. God, that show was bad! But it was such a huge hit! Tim plays a suave, professional British thief along the lines of Cary Grant's character in TO CATCH A THIEF. He's Farrah Fawcett's lover. And Charlie describes him as having "James Bondian tastes." :)

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 01:40 PM

Old thread but here goes....
fave non- Bond Dalton films:
Wuthering Heights -Dalton does an excellent job so early in is career.
Hawks-great characterization and rapport with Anthony Edwards
Rocketeer-great villain
Jane Eyre- another literature standard excellent job as Rochester

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:46 PM

Tim is a charismatic A-list movie star in Timeshare and Framed.

However, Hawks has to be the best non-Bond film made by any of the actors, and that includes Mr-Oscar-for-the-Untouchables-garbage-accent-Connery.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 02:58 PM

Tim is a charismatic A-list movie star in Timeshare and Framed.

However, Hawks has to be the best non-Bond film made by any of the actors, and that includes Mr-Oscar-for-the-Untouchables-garbage-accent-Connery.

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Glad to see another fan appreciate Hawks! Dalton does give an Oscar worthy performance in that film. Edwards does also IMO.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 03:02 PM

Tim is a charismatic A-list movie star in Timeshare and Framed.

However, Hawks has to be the best non-Bond film made by any of the actors, and that includes Mr-Oscar-for-the-Untouchables-garbage-accent-Connery.

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Glad to see another fan appreciate Hawks! Dalton does give an Oscar worthy performance in that film. Edwards does also IMO.

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Yup, just think if Tim had got an Oscar in 88 Bond would have been his for as long as he'd wanted it and we'd have been spared Mr TV-movie Brozza.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 03:05 PM

My vote goes for the Rocketeer a very funa nd under-rated movie.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 03:10 PM

Tim is a charismatic A-list movie star in Timeshare and Framed.

However, Hawks has to be the best non-Bond film made by any of the actors, and that includes Mr-Oscar-for-the-Untouchables-garbage-accent-Connery.

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Glad to see another fan appreciate Hawks! Dalton does give an Oscar worthy performance in that film. Edwards does also IMO.

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Yup, just think if Tim had got an Oscar in 88 Bond would have been his for as long as he'd wanted it and we'd have been spared Mr TV-movie Brozza.

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Exactly! Also, there probably have been more of a range in styles during his longer reign as OO7. Who knows, maybe they would've modified his personal talent for humour (a'la Hawks) to suit his interpretaion of Bond, thus not alienating the fans who grew up with the more light-hearted Moore. Truely would've been more interesting had he continued and explored the possibilities.

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Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:43 PM

Tim is a charismatic A-list movie star in Timeshare and Framed.

However, Hawks has to be the best non-Bond film made by any of the actors, and that includes Mr-Oscar-for-the-Untouchables-garbage-accent-Connery.

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Glad to see another fan appreciate Hawks! Dalton does give an Oscar worthy performance in that film. Edwards does also IMO.

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Yup, just think if Tim had got an Oscar in 88 Bond would have been his for as long as he'd wanted it and we'd have been spared Mr TV-movie Brozza.

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Exactly! Also, there probably have been more of a range in styles during his longer reign as OO7. Who knows, maybe they would've modified his personal talent for humour (a'la Hawks) to suit his interpretaion of Bond, thus not alienating the fans who grew up with the more light-hearted Moore. Truely would've been more interesting had he continued and explored the possibilities.

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If anyone's seen Hawks (for the humour) and Framed for the cool-confident, knows just what you've said - if Tim had had the chance to do a true series of movies there could have been variety. For heaven's sake, how many people expected the 1991 Dalton film to be LTK2? It would have been a big, super cool Goldfinger type. And Tim would have done it to perfection.