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Fantasizing About The 3rd And Onward


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#31 booyeah_

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 04:32 AM

Just so you don't feel left out Loomis, I've taken the liberty of making a Col. Sun poster.


As fire meets ice, so does James Bond and Colonel Sun.

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#32 Loomis

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 09:37 AM

Just so you don't feel left out Loomis, I've taken the liberty of making a Col. Sun poster.


Wow, and to my exact specifications too! :)

Very, very nice work indeed, booyeah_. :)

#33 GreggAllinson

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 06:27 PM

Theme Song - The Smiths

That would be absolutely astonishing...considering they broke up in '87.

Besides, the Smiths doing a Bond theme? I mean, don't get me wrong, they're my favourite band of all time, but I couldn't think of a bigger mismatch than a sauve, sophisticated superspy and the tortured poetry of Morrissey.

Edited by GreggAllinson, 04 March 2004 - 06:30 PM.


#34 Loomis

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Posted 04 March 2004 - 07:00 PM

I couldn't think of a bigger mismatch than a sauve, sophisticated superspy and the tortured poetry of Morrissey.

Agreed. However, Electronic (Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr's collaboration with New Order's Bernard Sumner) would have done a terrific Bond song, IMO - listen, for instance, to 1989's "Getting Away With It" or 1991's "Get the Message", and you'll know where I'm coming from.

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Posted 10 December 2006 - 03:13 PM

[quote name='Loomis' post='207998' date='15 January 2004 - 18:01']
I've posted this twice before on other threads, but I thought I might as well resurrect it, since it fits the topic. I tried to imagine what COLONEL SUN might have been like if it had been released in 1991, starring Dalton:

COLONEL SUN (1991)
Directed by John Frankenheimer. (Snap, 007luvchild2! :))

Produced by Albert R. Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson. Written by Michael G. Wilson and Bruce Fierstein. Director of Photography: Jost Vacano. Music by Basil Poledouris. Production Designer: Peter Lamont. Editor: Stuart Baird.

Starring:
Timothy Dalton as James Bond
Anne Parillaud as Ariadne Alexandrou
John Lone as Colonel Sun Liangtan
Joan Chen as Jenny Li
J

#36 4 Ur Eyez Only

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 04:46 PM

I think Timothy would have kept the 3rd Movie of a bond being the best rule going :)

You know they would have moved his movies away from the summer, like they have after LTK.

Timothy would have been great!

#37 Quantumofsolace007

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 03:31 AM

[quote name='Loomis' post='207998' date='15 January 2004 - 13:01']I've posted this twice before on other threads, but I thought I might as well resurrect it, since it fits the topic. I tried to imagine what COLONEL SUN might have been like if it had been released in 1991, starring Dalton:

COLONEL SUN (1991)
Directed by John Frankenheimer. (Snap, 007luvchild2! :tup:)

Produced by Albert R. Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson. Written by Michael G. Wilson and Bruce Fierstein. Director of Photography: Jost Vacano. Music by Basil Poledouris. Production Designer: Peter Lamont. Editor: Stuart Baird.

Starring:
Timothy Dalton as James Bond
Anne Parillaud as Ariadne Alexandrou
John Lone as Colonel Sun Liangtan
Joan Chen as Jenny Li
J

#38 quantumofsolace

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Posted 06 March 2008 - 04:50 AM

I like Dalton but he would never have been popular because he did not have the lightness required.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 03:20 AM

Wow! I can't begin to tell you how much i would have loved to have seen this treatment come to life, especially with the casting you came up with and in the timeframe you depicted, Loomis. I would have loved to have seen the onscreen chemistry between Timothy Dalton and Anne Parillaud (a favourite of mine ever since Nikita). That it didn't come to pass is one of the great tragedies of Bond fandom. We are all poorer for this not having been made.

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:05 AM

You stole my idea for the music for Brokenclaw..music by U2.

James is Timothy..no doubt..

Brokenclaw..is Gene Simmons of Kiss

I really liked that book..

John Glen director

I can't remember the rest of the cast..darn it..its been 8 or more yrs since i read it!

#41 RazorBlade

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 09:15 PM

You know, I really love this idea. "onscreen chemistry between Timothy Dalton and Anne Parillaud" Yes! Too bad we missed it.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:24 PM

You know, I really love this idea. "onscreen chemistry between Timothy Dalton and Anne Parillaud" Yes! Too bad we missed it.

:tup: :tup: well said.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 05:16 AM

Oh, what could have been: :(

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Posted 13 October 2008 - 12:02 AM

This video gives a good idea, of a Casino Royale trailer with Timothy Dalton.

http://uk.youtube.co...h?v=nB_I_aNbYdE

#45 O.H.M.S.S.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:06 PM

ALBERT R. BROCCOLI presents
TIMOTHY DALTON
as IAN FLEMING'S JAMES BOND 007 in
"THE PROPERTY OF A LADY"
Starring ANTHONY HOPKINS MARY ELIZABETH MASTRANTONIO ALAIN DELON CIARAN HINDS TALIA SHIRE EDWARD FOX and GEORGE LAZENBY as 'M'
Music by ERIC SERRA Director of photography VITTORIO STORARO
Production design by PETER LAMONT Screenplay by JOHN LE CARRE
Produced by ALBERT R. BROCCOLI and MICHAEL G. WILSON
Directed by JOHN BOORMAN

#46 ACE

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 09:34 PM

I painstakingly selotaped together this shredded document from MGM's archive revealing an unused pitch and marketing concept*.


MEMO:
From: W Osbourne, W Davies
To: ARB, MGW, J McKenzie, G Paretti
Date: 08.08.90
EYES ONLY

The following is based on the two unfilmed Fleming short stories from FYEO, The Hildebrand Rarity and Quantum of Solace stitching together as many unused Eon ideas from that time. The names and sequence-in-a-skyscraper idea and oriental setting all came from the end of the MGW & Alfonse Ruggerio Bond 17 Treatment (as do the names WEBB, KOHONI, CRISP & YUPLAND) as well as the plot revolving around a stolen piece of technology. The ending was set in a vast automated building - a Die Hard vibe for the PTS. Also casting suggestions and ideas for Bond 16 (ultimately junked for what became LTK). In 1987-88 Broccoli and co. all went to China to set up Bond 16. The story was going to revolve around the Snow Leopard Brotherhood from the previous film and feature Chinese art treasures, the terracotta army, a motorbike chase on the Great Wall and other stuff. This was around the time of The Last Emperor and all things Chinese were in. The infrastructure was not suitable for Eon and also those Communists wanted to vet the script. After Tiananmen Sq, the authorities would want a PR push and what better than a Bond film to deal with East West tensions and advertise the studio facilities of the Chinese. THR is be made in China with their facilities enabling vital budget savings to be made! We keep to the old Eon way of casting models for the females and lesser stars for the villains. After the relative BO disappointment of LTK, TDalton must be talked to about publicity. TD should "perform" the title song, guest hosting Johnny Carson the week of US release (July 1991) and have a homes and lovelife spread in People Magazine. TD must also close advertising deals with Lark cigarettes, the new Ford and American Express as well as Diet Pepsi. THR also touches on recent events including the fall of Communism, Tiananmen Square, the shift to economic espionage, closer European integration, eco-terrorism and the notion of The End of History coined by Francis Fukuyama.


1987 - The Living Daylights
1989 - Licence to Kill
1991 - THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

Starring
James Bond : Timothy Dalton
Etienne Harvey Miller: Powers Booth
Rhodia Masters: Liz Hurley
Fidelle Barbey : Naomi Campbell
Xan Kohoni : John Lone
Connie Webb : Cindy Crawford
Prof. Denholm Crisp : Ian Holm
Felix Leiter : David Hedison
M: Robert Brown
Q: Desmond Llewelyn
Moneypenny: Caroline Bliss
Minister of Defence: Geoffrey Keen
David Yupland: Hugh Laurie

Directed by John McKenzie

Locations: Brussels - Belgium, London - UK, Beijing, the Yangste, Great Wall and various locations in China

Plot:

PTS - A skyscraper overlooking the Forbidden City, BEIJING, CHINA.
Ostensibly attending a champagne auction in the skyscraper hosted by Hong Kong Chinese billionaire, XAN KOHONI, we find Bond flirting with beautiful insurance expert CONNIE WEBB but is really there to protect a revolutionary piece of nano-technology called THE END OF HISTORY which to be handed to SIS under the guise of KOHONI's trade mission. However, in a daring abseil assault on the building by Chinese terrorists, the chip is stolen. Bonds ends swinging from one end of the skyscraper to the other in a dinner jacket with WEBB in his arms drinking vintage champagne before abseiling down them, catching a base jumping terrorist on the way and apprehending him and rescuing the chip.

MAIN TITLE
A Chinese themed title sequence featuring new footage of Dalton to be designed by Maurice Binder (taking his cue from his titles for Bertollucci's The Last Emperor. MB is ill and so we must have LTK pop video director, Daniel Kleiman waiting in the wings on standby). A Bondian, atmospheric, instrumental theme tune called "T.H.R." (featuring Dalton's line reading "The Hildebrand Rarity" sampled throughout and chants of T. H. R.) has been received from ambient dance act, The Shamen. (If the song is later nominated for an Oscar, during The Shamen's performance at the televised ceremony, TD should appear live on stage, saying the line. TD will be distinguished by being the only Bond actor to "perform" the film's title track!

BRUSSELS, BELGIUM
French Canadian gas billionaire and industrialist and rabid capitalist ETIENNE HARVEY MILLER (from QOS short story) addresses a Brussels conference of Euro movers and shakers. Suggesting that, with the demise of the Cold War, the Pacific Rim industries threaten European interests, he suggest a trade embargo. At a party in the Atonium to celebrate securing a new NATO contract, Miller and his wife, RHODIA (changed slightly from Quantum of Solace story)is introduced by the Minister of Defence, Sir Frederick Gray to Bond and Felix Leiter (on secondment to NATO HQ). Bond also meets the Seychellois business advisor to Miller, FIDELLE BARBEY (changed to a female from THR short story). The party is crashed by more Chinese terrorists who attempt to kidnap MILLER. Foiled by Leiter (he is sprayed with machine gunfire in his artifical arm and leg), they kidnap BARBEY. A gun battle ensues in the tubular structure of the Atonium. The terrorists then escape but are foiled and Barbey rescued after a high speed car chase through the streets with Bond employing the full arsenal of his gadget laden Aston Martin Volante.

LONDON, UK
In London, M with his new young advisor, David Yupland, Q and the Minister of Defence go through Bond's adventures. THE END OF HISTORY is a top secret technology programme developed in HK by KOHONI and the British. TEOH is the doomsday weapon in military electronic counter measures - a super virus that, if properly positioned, wipes out a nation's computer networks. It seems the Chinese government were involved in the attempted theft. Constantly warned about the imminent Chinese threat by MILLER, the attempt to disrupt the life of the great industrialist is a clear sign of the threat the Chinese pose in the new world order. With the restoration of Hong Kong imminent, Chinese expansion must be held in check.

In gratitude to Bond, MILLER now has invited Bond on a conservation cruise up the Yangtse River to search for the famous fish, The Hilderbrand Rarity and which is then to be bred in captivity. The trip also doubles as a factfinding tour for MILLER in an attempt to downplay diplomatic tensions. Bond is ordered to accompany MILLER to protect him from further attack. Moneypenny wishes Bond well in fluent Mandarin - "Well, you did learn the language at Cambridge!" she adds. "Moneypenny, I didn't know you had such a learned tongue." "Oh James, in all sorts of ways!"

CHINA
The cruise up the Yangste finds Bond with MILLER, his wife RHODIA and FIDELLE and expert naturalist, PROF DENHOLM CRISP. Bond snoops around and sees that there is an unlikely connection between KOHONI and MILLER, in theory, rivals. BARBEY tells Bond of front companies where both are partners. While on the river, an attack by Chinese pirates on the luxury boat is foiled by Bond. However, evidence of this attack connects the 'pirates' with the 2 previous Chinese terror attacks. This is played out in between the search for the rare yet poisonous fish and Rhondia revealing how she met MILLER and lives in a gilded cage but loveless married life (i.e. the Quantum of Solace story recounted like the Fleming Octopussy story in that film). At a certain point, Bond is nearly killed by the poison used to find THR. When found, MILLER reveals it's scales have rare semi-conducting powers useful for nano-technology and exploited by PROFESSOR CRISP. MILLER and co. have no intention of conserving the fish - they want to dissect it to discover it's properties. That night, after a blood curdling scream, FIDELLE is found dead with the fish shoved down her throat.

Bond confronts MILLER. Who reveals he is in league with KOHONI who has a private army equipped with Chinese weapons. They had attempted to steal The End of History weapon in Beijing so that KOHONI was unconnected to it�s use and also discredit the Chinese. However, they were foiled by Bond. The staged "attacks" were to increase tensions and discredit the Chinese. MILLER and KOHONI are going to attack the Chinese networks, crippling their economy and military strength and ending communism there too: MILLER stops the Pacific Rim threat to western industries, KOHONI weakens China preventing the HK takeover. Bond reasons that to destabilize a billion people with nuclear weapons will cause a power vacuum and will lead to Eastern revolution which will engulf the west. The
End Of History, indeed.

007 is taken prisoner in the area where the terracotta army is but rescued by RHODIA. After a series of chases including a shoot up in the terracotta army museum and a motorbike chase on the Great Wall of China, Bond and Rhodia are captured but not before alerting the Chinese army. Taken to a gigantic concrete and steel dam (the ultimate destination of the cruise), a power hub for China which also houses the Chinese military industrial mainframe which, upon a countdown initiated, total electronic devestation of China will occur courtesy of The End of History weapon. Bond and Rhodia escape and with the help of the Chinese army defeat MILLER and KOHONI and his private army in a gigantic battle ending in the dam splitting open and flooding.

THE END OF THE HILDEBRAND RARITY

BUT

JAMES BOND WILL RETURN




* of course, this is utter nonsense!

#47 DamnCoffee

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:30 AM

Wow Ace! That's Ace! B)

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 03:53 AM

Well since I was looking in the forum earlier and Mharkin's post drew my attention it, I just couldn't resist. Enjoy the random insanity my brain has cooked up.

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THE FACTS OF DEATH
Released 8 November 1992
Starring Timothy Dalton as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007, Robert Brown as M, Caroline Bliss as Miss Moneypenny, Damian Lewis as Bill Tanner, Jude Law as Agent 008, Gary Oldman as David Shaw, Robert Downey Jr as Felix Leiter, Liam Neeson as Sebastian Riesco, Demian Bichir as Ciro Bergnes. Directed by John Glen. Produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. Written by Michael G. Wilson, Richard Maibum, Alfonse M. Ruggiero Jr. Music composed by John Barry. Main title, "The Facts of Death", by U2.

In the aftermath of Licence to Kill, Bond decides to retire from Her Majesty's Secret Service. But when an expert hitman in the employ of Fidel Castro kills Felix Leiter, Bond is sucked back into the intelligence world; not for vengeance, but to finish the job Felix started.

Spoiler


Okay, so, yes I know, the Facts of Death came out several years later, speaking in terms of the book, but it was the first title that came to mind. All in all I rather enjoy my idea. Sure it's not the best, but we've certainly had worse Bond films, too. And yes, I "lifted" the girl, but really only in name and nationality. Atm I can't think of an actress for her who was active and not too young or old at the time. Any ideas?

Edited by Tybre, 29 May 2009 - 05:13 AM.


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Posted 16 June 2009 - 09:58 PM

For all that I love the Campbell/Craig version, I would have given my left arm to see Dalton starring in a faithful, lower budgeted Casino Royale adaptation directed by somebody not named John Glen. Not saying it would have been better than what we got in 2006, but you can't deny it would have been interesting. The story of the novel is tailored to Dalton's approach to the character.