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[Tarl_Cabot]

I think I must be very sad, but I actually feel sorry for him."


Oh please! This guy was as bad as Hitler. He deserves whatever he has coming to him. He should be tortured to death, the way many Iraqi's met their fate at his hand. How can you feel sorry for a genocidal dictator?

[Blue Eyes]

Originally posted by Xenobia
I'm with Daniel.  OK, we got him.  Now what?

Does it stop the insurgents in Iraq?  No.

Does it stop Al Queda?  No.

Does it make things worse for Americans around the world?  Possibly.  

So...now what?

-- Xenobia

Now they'll try and push for the death penalty, which I personally feel is totally wrong. But would it really surprise us? This is the US Government who broadcasts pictures of dead people willingly.

[Bondian]

Hi Tarl,

Well believe it or not 'Hitler' is considered over here as a very clever man who was also crazy.

I can understand your feelings on what Saddam's done, but your view's on him being "tortured to death" doesn't make you any better than he is. I know if it were up to the Iraqi's they would 'hung, draw and quater him', but if we live in a democratic society then he deserves a fair trial.

Cheers,


Ian

[Blue Eyes]

Originally posted by Bondian
I think I must be very sad, but I actually feel sorry for him. I know that 'justice' should be done, but I do not believe in 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth'. You can call me stupid, but I feel that he SHOULD have a fair trial, and although he has ended many peoples lives it would more useful to us if we could get enough information out of him. Surely he could go under a lie detector to get information but knowing NATO that would be considered wrong.

I echo such sentiments. For a start, I'd rather he had never been captured as I don't believe he's a threat and then there's the 'romantic' in me. Then there's what they'll do to him no doubt - only lowering themselves to his level and those who worked for him. No doubt they'll attempt to pin things on him that he was never even aware of.

[Blue Eyes]

Originally posted by Tarl_Cabot
He should be tortured to death, the way many Iraqi's met their fate at his hand. How can you feel sorry for a genocidal dictator?

How can you want to take yourself down to his level?

[Bondian]

Hi Daniel,

Well said my Friend.

What's going to happen now makes me even more worried.

There's a much bigger 'force' than just a one-man-army.


Take Care Dan,

All the best,

Cheers,


Ian

[DanMan]

WTF? I can't understand how people can feel bad for that nutcase.

[Xenobia]

Saddam Huessin should be treated the way he has treated no one else:

-- He should get a fair trial.

-- He should be spared the death penalty.

He should, however, be sprayed with the same chemicals he sprayed on the Kurds in the late eighties and early nineties, and probably since then too, and he should be kept alive and made to suffer the way others have suffered under him.

-- Xenobia

[Tarl_Cabot]

thanks Danman. The voice of reason! Ok, I don't want to torture him but I don't care what they do with him. I have no sympathy for that bastard.

[Blue Eyes]

Originally posted by Xenobia
He should, however, be sprayed with the same chemicals he sprayed on the Kurds in the late eighties and early nineties, and probably since then too, and he should be kept alive and made to suffer the way others have suffered under him.

I really can't fathom out such a mentality of going down to the same level as him.

Also, how do you know he gave the order for the use of Chemical Weapons? There's a lot of presumption there.

[Bondian]

What I'm now thinking is why was he in such a dreadful hole in the ground?. Did his peers abandon him, or did he want to go it alone?.

How could he carry $750,000.00 and two gun's, and who else where 'arrested'?.

We shall see.....


Cheers,


Ian

[Blofeld's Cat]

I wonder how many authors have just scrapped a plotline to their next novel that indicates Saddam is still at large.

[Bondian]

You bet BC. We haven't herd much from ZEN today!. I wonder what he's up to?. LOL.


Cheers BC,


Ian

[Xenobia]

BE:

I can not tell you where or when I saw it, but it is known in several circles, and has been documented by film crews, that SH did in fact use chemical weapons on the Kurds at one point.

If he did that...he deserve the punishment he gave them.

-- Xenobia

[Blue Eyes]

I'm not going to condone using them on him - that's not me. But, while I know that chemical weapons were used we need more than that to say that SH used them, there are plenty of people who could have given the order without first consulting him.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Yes he did; I saw the footage of hundreds of dead people including children lying in the streets. It was horrific and that's why I don't care if they give him the Edward II treatment. But using chemicals on Saddam would be fatal so your proposal to spare him the death penalty but use chemicals doesn't quite fit.

[Blue Eyes]

I too have seen the footage. I don't see Saddam standing there spraying them though.

[Bondian]

"My object all sublime, I will achieve in time to let the punishment fit the crime the punishment fit the crime, and make each prisoner pent, unwillingly represent a source of innocent merryment, of innocent merryment". THE MIKADO by Gilbert and Sullivan

Hi XEN,

Two wrong's don't make a right Hon!.

The US have got to show 'no remorse' in this matter cause we do want to start something that could make us wrong.

Merry Christmas XEN,

All the best,

Cheers,


Ian

[Bondian]

Where are the 'weapon's of mass destruction' that the USA supposedly supplied him?.


Cheers,


Ian

[Bryce (003)]

Yes, we got him.

*quietly hopes that no one has put together that both 003 & 004 have been moderately quiet on the forums during the last 72 hours*

As to what will be done with him -

One name leaps to mind: Noriega.

*ahem*

It's either that or my personal favorite option: Announce when and where on CNN 48 hours in advance - and then drop him off in Times Square.

Seriously though, he'll probably spend his days in a small cell under maximum security (no "Club-Fed" rules here) and hopefully he will be properly "asked a few routine questions" and the they will lock him up in a room and throw away the room.

The intel is ALWAYS worth more than the satisfaction.

Now....Bring me Bin Ladin.....Then I'll be impressed.

*Shakes sand out of boots and looks at Browning's chamber*

Hell....That's too much grit.

*grabs cleaning kit*

[Tarl_Cabot]

I don't see Saddam standing there spraying them though."

I didn't see footage of Hitler at the concentration camps. :mad:

[Bondian]

Ha-ha, hello Bryce,

Yes, I've noticed that MATT and yourself have been 'away' for a few day's. Anything you want to share with us over a pint?.


Cheers,


Ian

[Bryce (003)]

Only over a pint Ian;)

[Bondian]

"closing time James". Ha, sound's like it was fun?.


Chars,


Ian

[Bryce (003)]

Thankfully 004 didn't get shot in the head - or fake his death in a plot to double-cross me nine years from now.



BOT:

Any other thoughts anyone?

[Bondian]

Gosh Bryce, I hope not too Matey.


Cheers,


Ian

[Dr Niles Crane]

Someone said they were glad Saddam could now stand trial: But for what I wonder?

for holding people in prison without charging them of a crime
for not allowing them access to any of the standard international legal protections
for torturing prisoners
for holding prisoners in conditions that would make the UN go 'Oh My God'
for executing people of sub standard intelligence
for having a very dodgy legal system
for funding drug cartels
for funding anti government rebels
for funding a leader whose main funding supply was drugs
for invading another country and deposing its legitimately elected leader
for assinating another legitimately elected leader
for sending agents out to torture prominent enemy targets to death
for bombing a neutral country using chemical weapons
for using weapons outlawed by the UN (the kind that blow limbs off)
for using weapons of mass destruction on an unsuspecting civilians
for ensuring that medical supplies did not reach civilians and thousands died in agony through lack of drugs
for using depleated uranium on areas where it knew the civilian population would be exposed to it and cause cancer rates to rise to fifty percent of the population
for managing to shoot more civilians than enemy troops
for managing to shoot more friendly troops than enemy troops
for having its leader serve a fake turkey to bolster the morale of its troops and reassure them of the justification of having invaded another country (this is considered bad in some parts of the world - think WW2 and WW1)?

[Tarl_Cabot]

for having its leader serve a fake turkey to bolster the morale of its troops and reassure them of the justification of having invaded another country (this is considered bad in some parts of the world - think WW2 and WW1)?"

talking about Saddam or Bush?

[Bryce (003)]

No...There will never be a trial.

For the above reasons.

Hitler avoided the trials...Saddam should do the same...or should have.

[MrDraco]

if theres a man in American right now who could bite himself in the Azz its howard Dean...
and Kerrys not better off just the other day CNN had a qoute it said "I knew George would go in their and handle the situation but i didn't know he'd **** it up this bad."-Or something to that nature..