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37 Missed Opportunities To Improve AVTAK


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#1 Victor Zokas

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Posted 22 April 2002 - 09:17 PM

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#2 IcePak

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Posted 28 April 2002 - 07:04 PM

Hehe most of that's pretty funny

#3 Blofeld's Cat

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Posted 23 April 2002 - 02:40 AM

Seems to me that if point 1 happened, points 2 to 37 would be redundant. :)

#4 General Koskov

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Posted 23 April 2002 - 02:11 AM

Missed Opportunity #38: Bond isn't fast enough to throw the ash/rubbish can down the lift shaft at Stacey, instead it gets caught in the lift doors.

#39: Bond never instructs Q to have the Q-Dog go into the shower with Stacey and thus electrocute her.

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Posted 23 April 2002 - 02:58 AM

Overkill. Literally, overkill.

Groucho: "The next time I see you, remind me not to talk to you."

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#6 Victor Zokas

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Posted 23 April 2002 - 07:44 AM

Blofeld's Cat (23 Apr, 2002 03:40 a.m.):
Seems to me that if point 1 happened, points 2 to 37 would be redundant. :)


Quite true, but only if I had been directing and had got Roger to get No 1 "executed" correctly.

As for it being overkill, I don't think they all end in her demise. Shame really.

#7 RITZ

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Posted 22 April 2002 - 09:36 PM

Excellent Sir!
It would be the perfect film for the end of the Roger Moore era!

PS: I think there should be a final scene where Moore hands in his licence to kill to M and collects his free bus pass.

#8 4 Ur Eyez Only

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 03:52 AM

I would say my only problem with the movie is...

the script doesn't flow like butta :)

all of roger's movies are perfectly paced.. and types of movies that the more you watch them.. the better they get and you notice new little things everytime you watch them..

avtak is the only one where the middle is a little off.. even some of the characters in the middle of the movie "sorta" give us reminders of what the reason/plot is.. it is just a little loose in the middle..

the begining and ending is great!! but like I said before I sorta give this one a break because the whole 007 stage burned down..

so it gets a pass with me.. the little "flaws"

#9 BONDFINESSE 007

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 04:19 AM

as perfect a film as it was, i see no area where it could be improved...how do u improve perfect?

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 11:07 AM

I don't see many flaws in AVTAK...

I agree with Bondfinesse in that it's close to perfect. I even can handle Tanya Roberts as the Bond girl because she is such pleasing eye candy. I went to see this movie multiple times on its theatrical release and when it came out on VHS I watched it so much that I wore out the tape.

The nostalgia of AVTAK is so powerful to me.

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 11:29 AM

Um, I see only one point in the first post - and thats a period!

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 11:34 AM

I think the point is that you cannot improve on AVTAK because it is already perfect (and the poster was being cute in their way of expressing that) :)

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 10:42 PM

you guys/gals.. don't think the movie has a weak 2nd act?

when Roger is over at Stacy's House.. & some of it when Roger & Stacy are at her Job??

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 11:01 PM

No, I love each and every moment of AVTAK.

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Posted 17 June 2003 - 11:17 PM

you know with me.. :)

It feels more like a "Sean paced 007" which in my eyes.. has soooo many dead spots.. and that is the only Roger 007 that has that Sean/Pierce dead spot/007 Movie...

I think thats why I LOVE Tim/Roger's 007.. because they have NO dead spots.. they are perfectly paced movies.. and IF they are sorta slow for a few minutes..we all know that it will pay off at the end.. :)

I think AVTAK is the only that has a different feel when it comes down to the script pacing..

ie: dead spots

in my eyes;)

But to be honest.. wow when I am watching a Pierce Bond I swear I have to watch it in 12 minutes spurts.. :) wow ..I think they are trying to get that Sean feel... but sean's are pretty good..

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 12:46 AM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow
I don't see many flaws in AVTAK...

I agree with Bondfinesse in that it's close to perfect. .... I went to see this movie multiple times on its theatrical release and when it came out on VHS I watched it so much that I wore out the tape.  

The nostalgia  of AVTAK is so powerful to me.


how old, if i may ask d'snow, were u at the time of theatrical release...i, btw, was a 19/20 year old university student.

the power of bond nostalgia is unbelievably high in my own life....

#17 BONDFINESSE 007

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 01:54 AM

being i was 18 and it was the first bond movie i saw on a movie screen, it is the best to me, but even now at the old age of 36 it is still flawless and still the best

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 11:34 AM

Originally posted by ray t


how old, if i may ask d'snow, were u at the time of theatrical release...i, btw, was a 19/20 year old university student.

the power of bond nostalgia is unbelievably high in my own life....


I was 13 in the summer of 1985 when AVTAK came out and I went to see it numerous times that season.

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 07:53 PM

one can never underestimate the pre-pubescent fantasy effect of a 007 James Bond adventure on a boy/young man.

i was 11/12 when the likes of Thunderball, Goldfinger, FRWL etc were being broadcast on the ABC Sunday Night Movie.

i do, however, recall seeing YOLT and DAF in the theatres as a child with my parents .

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 08:08 PM

I saw AVTAK a week before graduating from high school. I remember taping Good Morning America as they had a week devoted to Bond just before its release. Gave me a lot to look forward to in the spring of '85.:)

#21 4 Ur Eyez Only

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Posted 18 June 2003 - 10:02 PM

Do you still have it on Tape??? :)

What does everyone have that might be interesting on tape.. about Roger moore!

I only have:

A & E Roger Bio
half an interview of Roger on Regis & Kathie Lee from maybe 1995ish


what does everyone else have?

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 01:35 AM

Originally posted by 4 Ur Eyez Only
Do you still have it on Tape??? :)  

What does everyone have that might be interesting on tape.. about Roger moore!

I only have:

A & E Roger Bio
half an interview of Roger on Regis & Kathie Lee from maybe 1995ish


what does everyone else have?

i wish i had somthing on tape,,,sadly i dont:(

#23 DLibrasnow

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 04:08 AM

One question I have with this thread --- how do you improve on perfection?!

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 05:04 AM

thats the great thing about a view to a kill is it is so perfect that it cant be improved, and i cant say that for a good many bond films

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 05:28 AM

"A View To A Kill" is the ultimate 1980's Bond film.

Like "Diamond Are Forever" which celebrates all that is 1970 --- and "Thunderball" exudes the post-Kennedy 1960's --- these films are tentposts.... Not great Bond films, but absolute time-capsules of times that can never
be repeated.... Watch them and re-live all the swingin' good times.

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Osato
"A View To A Kill" is the ultimate 1980's Bond film.

Like "Diamond Are Forever" which celebrates all that is 1970 --- and "Thunderball" exudes the post-Kennedy 1960's --- these films are tentposts.... Not great Bond films,  but absolute time-capsules of times that can never  
be repeated....  Watch them and re-live all the swingin' good times.


YES! The summer of 1985 was a great time to be around and AVTAK was a wonderful movie to see in the theater. I got a much bigger buzz from the release of AVTAK, than any of the later Dalton or Pierce Brosnan releases.

#27 Turn

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 01:10 PM

Originally posted by 4 Ur Eyez Only
Do you still have it on Tape??? :)  

What does everyone have that might be interesting on tape.. about Roger moore!

I only have:

A & E Roger Bio
half an interview of Roger on Regis & Kathie Lee from maybe 1995ish


what does everyone else have?


Actually, I do have it somewhere at my parents' house along with a few other things. I must have around 30 or so VHS tapes of Bond material dating back to the OP/NSNA era. Someday I've got to catalogue it all to see what I have.

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 01:48 PM

Originally posted by Turn


Actually, I do have it somewhere at my parents' house along with a few other things. I must have around 30 or so VHS tapes of Bond material dating back to the OP/NSNA era.  Someday I've got to catalogue it all to see what I have.


You should transfer it to DVD so you can keep it for future viewing. I know I spent a lot of time burning DVDs of my old VHS tapes when I first got my DVD burner.

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 03:20 PM

Originally posted by DLibrasnow


You should transfer it to DVD so you can keep it for future viewing. I know I spent a lot of time burning DVDs of my old VHS tapes when I first got my DVD burner.


I'd love to do that when I get a DVD burner some day. It would certainly save a lot of room and make my wife happier. She complains about the three cabinets and various areas of my house taken up by tapes.

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Posted 19 June 2003 - 05:08 PM

The cost of DVD burners have certainly come down over the past year. I picked up one at "Best Buy" for about $250.