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Elliot Carver- magnificent villain or complete fool?


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#61 CasinoKiller

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:34 PM

I personally think he's one of the best villains in the series...in many ways, he's a modern-day Blofeld of sorts, in that, like Blofeld, he seeks power and influence over the world and devises an elaborate scheme involving pitting world powers againt one another, but while Blofeld seeks domination merely in the sphere of arms and/or money, Carver seeks domination over minds using the media as a dangerous weapon. You gotta admit, the idea of a media baron, 100 percent respectable and even revered world wide, and who is absolutely beyond reproach (remember M saying 'The PM would have my head if he knew we were investigating him'), manipulating world events in his favour is far creepier than a bigshot notorious criminal mastermind wanted by authorities throughout the world!

#62 Judo chop

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 07:54 PM

My feeling is that Elliot is a plenty appropriate villain character for a 1997 Bond, but that Pryce's performance, which seeks to achieve entertainingly delicious over-the-topness, only succeeds at being kooky.

Nice try Elliot, but no cigar.

Though, I'm starting to think I've already posted an opinion in here, not too long ago. Hopefully that's the same opinion I gave last time...

#63 Eric Stromberg

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:42 PM

Elliot Carver was a whiny little bitch. He was the biggest flaw in TND.
One of the -- if not the -- weakest villain in the series.


Maybe Pryce really did his job as an actor!

Many people on this thread seem to have similar reactions to the character/performance. I think he's whiny and annoying, too, but I also think there's room in the series for the ways the villains behave and express themselves. I don't think he was poorly conceived, written or performed.

#64 The Shark

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 10:47 PM

He was a poorly conceived, written and performed. Like most things in the Brosnan era. End of story.

#65 Matt_13

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 01:55 AM

He's the most original villain we had had for long time. TND was, at the time, something new. It's surprising that the film doesn't get a lot of praise, as I think it's Brosnan's best.

#66 Binyamin

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 02:09 AM

Holy topic resurrection, Batman.

Elliot Carver is very much a late-nineties villain, and matches the rest of the era.

In some ways, the character is one of the most plausible of recent movies. I can easily imagine an egotistical, eccentric media baron deciding to start a war for ratings -- it's happened before.

Actually, both Carver AND Electra King are very plausible characters, more so than Trevalyan in some ways. Yet both are overlooked because of the films that feature them.

#67 DR76

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 07:44 PM

I don't know if I would call Elliot Carver a poorly written villain. I just didn't like him, because he seemed a bit over-the-top to me.