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[kevrichardson]

Please help me . what is wrong with TMWTGG. i saw it in 1974. i was very young ,still i thought that it was better than DAF. so please what's the deal:confused:

[mattbowyer]

Good question. There's so much right about the film - some of the best bond locations, an interesting opening premise (bullet sent to mi6 with his name on it), the way its followed up is cool and doesn't go along the predictable route. The opening is cool with the final appearance of bond's wax sculpture being very cool. It has maude adams. Mary goodnight. Chris Lee and some truly beautiful shots as bonds plane flies through the islands. And sheriff pepper, i love him.

Apparently Cubby said it was the one bond film he would have changed. Not sure what though, i really like it. Not the best by a long shot but i have a real soft spot for it, possibly because all of its characters are quite likable (scaramanga, nick nack and goodnight in particular). The only universal dislike is that the film's potential (probably still is) high point - the phenomenal corkscrew jump which probably still stands as the series best stunt - is sidelined by that awful whistle.

Also worth keeping in mind that it is from the director of Goldfinger, so it comes with serious kudos.

[DLibrasnow]

I think TMWTGG is the single worst 007 movie.
Where do you start with what is wrong with this movie.
The first thing I noticed about TMWTGG was the shoddy cardboard looking production design. Without a doubt the flimsy sets are the lowest point in production design of the entire series.
Although the movie does have an interesting premise. The characters are not very fleshed out. Even the Chris Lee villain Scaramanga just seems to be going through the motions.
Roger Moore doesn't seem to have hit his stride yet. He still seems to be doing a really bad Sean Connery impersonation.
The funhouse is just silly and seems very low budget affair. It lacks dimension and depth.
Nick Nack never seems a menacing threat to 007 and comes off as simply annoying.
One of the worst Bond girls in Britt Ekland. How did a bimbo like Mary Goodnight end up in such an important position in Hong Kong. Given its proximity to China one would think Mi6 would send its most capable agents there instead of the bumbling Goodnight.
Really terrible dialogue. Apart from the occassional classic line the rest of the dialogue is unitentionally humorous.
I could go on and on...
I know they rushed production of TMWTGG, but they should have taken more time and made it a better movie.

[kevrichardson]

worst than AVTAK

[DLibrasnow]

Definately.
AVTAK is actually high on my list of 007 movie favorites.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

whats wrong with it? J.W. PEPPER

[General Koskov]

The only thing wrong with it is the fact that they left out the assassination attempt on M. That and the whole end bit.

I think there are serious flaws in the three films after OHMSS in that they ignore the 'Bond goes nuts' plot set out by Fleming. LALD could be an exception because it was somewhat similar to the book and didn't appear in Fleming's duo of 'Bond goes nuts' books. However, neither did DAF, and it held the responsibility for dealing with Tracy and Blofeld, which it never did well (Moneypenny makes the crass proposal to Bond).

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
whats wrong with it? J.W. PEPPER

Yes, he outstayed his welcome.

[Spectre001]

Originally posted by BONDFINESSE 007
whats wrong with it?    J.W. PEPPER

Probably the single worst thing about the movie.That man was disgusting.

For me though it holds holds a couple of classic lines (excuse me if they aren't word for word):

Bond "Who would want to kill me?"
M "Jealous Husbands, outraged chefs" etc.

Belly Dancer "I've lost my charm"
Bonf "Not from where I'm standing"

[Solex Agitator]

I think this film is a VERY GOOD 007 picture. It is dark. There is some very good, very pointed dialogue in it. The scene where 007 watchs Maud Adams in the shower and then roughs her up for info is one of the best, most Bondian scenes in the entire series. The much wrongly maligned score is a rich reverb classic. Christopher Lee is wonderfully pleasant AND menacing. Maud Adams is mysterious and HOT. I could go on and on. This is not the best Bond film. It is not even the best roger Moore Bond film. But it is very good, very exotic, and VERY ENTERTAINING.

[mrmoon]

The Man with the Golden Gun boasts one of the greatest one liners ever.

"I'm now aiming precisely at your groin, so speak, or forever hold your piece."

[General Koskov]

Pity for that funhouse, the film would've been so good! It's worse than a complete failure (of which a Bond film has yet to be).

[BONDFINESSE 007]

i just went back and watched tmwtgg again tonight myself and i think rogers performance is better in tmwtgg than lald and up untill tonight i thought just the opposite. i think maybe its his best of all 7 that he did

[goldengun]

If anything the movie contains the best car stunt ever with the AMC. Tell me you weren't pleasantly happy to see that Bond wasn't going to let Scaramanga get away that easy??????

Scaramanga is cold, I love the low piano key that plays when Scaramanga appears.

And when Roger slapped around Maud - man I never saw Roger do that before - the whole water pistol scene is classic.

No TMWTGG is the most underrated Bond movie ever, and still better than any Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan film.

[DLibrasnow]

I hate the funhouse and I really don't like the movie - my reasons are listed above.

[gkgyver]

You can't tell me TMWTGG is dark. Actually, it's the silliest Bond ever. Even Moonraker had darker moments.

[BONDFINESSE 007]

yeah but roger was so good in that movie, it was his 2nd bond film and i think he nailed it. plus he looks so young compared to avtak

[11 11]

Well I have noticed that the female fans tend to not like this one. Obviously they need to get over the jealousy that they do not look like Ekland or Adams in a bathing suit.

Most women seem to have a problem with this as they spent most of the movie in bathing suits. I am just fine with it however.

And the men who do not like it tend not to like the humor. But if you have ever been to Louisiana you would get the humor and laugh your *** off.

The way I see it the only thing I would change was the car jump and the sound during that.

TMWGG is great fun if you ask me.

[DLibrasnow]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...

[kevrichardson]

If AVTAK and Moonraker are considered silly /stupid James Bond movies. How can TMWTGG be the worse of the Moore Bond films. Moore was under orders by the Director, Guy Hamilton too play Bond light, or lighter than Connery. A myth has grown around Connery's Bond by the time of DAF it was simply just a live action cartoon. The last serious Bond film prior to LALD was OHMSS. Which by all accounts was a failure. With LALD and TMWTGG , Moore was under the shadow of Connery and the general boredom that set in the series after DAF. Bond was still more or less a spy in LALD and TMWTGG. Thae amount of screen time that JW Pepper had was very small in comparsion to the lenght of the film. The film has one of the best Barry soundtracks and a interesting use of the James Bond theme during the car chase. The next time the Bond theme was used in acar chase was in TLD again by Barry. Adams and Ekland were also the last Bond girl who are close to Bond age and life experince. After TMWTGG , it was Barbara Bach and the march of the 20 someings no acting models. If the movie failed it was not Roger Moore's fault. it was the Director's and the Producer's. Compared to DAF it's a better film.

[Spectre001]

Okay...I can't resist "What is wrong with TMWTGG?

He is dead...Bond shot him! ))

[DLibrasnow]

The movie should be dead too...

[License To Kill]

Originally posted by goldengun
No TMWTGG is the most underrated Bond movie ever, and still better than any Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan film.

Are you insinuating that TMWTGG is better than any of the Tim and Pierce films? I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I'm giving mine on you, goldengun: You must be retarded. To think TMWTGG is better than Goldeneye or DAD for Pierce and both of Dalton's films is beyond comprehension. That's sheer insanity.

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by License To Kill



Are you insinuating that TMWTGG is better than any of the Tim and Pierce films? I realize that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I'm giving mine on you, goldengun: You must be retarded. To think TMWTGG is better than Goldeneye or DAD for Pierce and both of Dalton's films is beyond comprehension. That's sheer insanity.

I'm with you on this License to Kill, TMWTGG is simply put the worst movie of the entire 007 series. I even prefer "Never Say Never Again" to that piece of garbage. Maybe it is a little better than "Casino Royale" (1967).

[Spectre001]

While I wouldn't go that far I do agree that Goldeneye and DAD are certainly better films, IMHO of course.

[Jim]

The scene with Maud Adams in the hotel room, from start to finish, makes the film (albeit her initial hostility is a little odd, given that she's sent the bullet, but I suppose we're not meant to know that yet to maintain whatever suspense there is in the rest of this drivel)

The line that runs "...and then he might have to use one of those little golden bullets on you. And that would be a shame. Because they're very expensive" is a fantastic insult. And that scene showed a little itty bit of James Bond, which was a novelty.

The rest is lame Disney. Comedy elephants and midgets and wobbly waxworks. Blurrgh.

[goldengun]

Yes I confess...TMWTGG is not better than GE and DAD, but it is JUST AS GOOD!!!!!

[DLibrasnow]

Originally posted by Jim
The scene with Maud Adams in the hotel room, from start to finish, makes the film (albeit her initial hostility is a little odd, given that she's sent the bullet

At this point though she is unaware who this man standing in her hotel bathroom is.

[deth]

Was that corkscrew jump actually done with a real car???( I know...I'm not thinking it was CGI of course....not that dumb) ...but how did they do it? Wire? stunt jump (which would be really hard...)

[DLibrasnow]

Yes it was a real car....it's explained in the documetary on the DVD, but it involved a computer calculating all the variables...
It was actually done in the Houston Astrodome prior to it being in the movie and thats where the producers got the idea.