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[Dustin]

Some most intriguing shots in this video. I still have only a vague idea of SPECTRE but the footage looks splendid to me.

[PPK_19]

That shot of Bond walking towards the camera slowly cocking his gun and Seydoux emerging from the left of the shot and standing up is badass

Very. And Craig clearly enjoyed kissing Monica, and vice versa.

Definitely, there was a lot of passion right there!

[Simon]

Yup - like the song.

 

Feels still better with the visuals.  And figure the title sequence will encourage shivers down the spine in the darkened auditorium.

 

The SPECTRE footage is looking more and more accomplished with every new clip.  Staggeringly gorgeous.  One has come a long way since the days of the washed out LTK.

[tdalton]

The new footage is good, so I guess that's something.

Having visuals to go along with it in no way helps the song, though. It's still terrible. Kleinman definitely has his work cut out for him.

[sharpshooter]

Kleinman has always delivered for me in the past, and I can see the trend continuing. 

[SecretAgentFan]

Loved the song before, love it now.

But the footage from the film is IMO spectacular. This is going to be an event.

[sharpshooter]

But the footage from the film is IMO spectacular. This is going to be an event.

I'm not sure if it'll surpass Skyfall's box-office, but indeed, it's going to be big. The three year gap creates a hunger from the audience, and they love Bond already anyway. In terms of quality, I seriously think I'll like it more than Skyfall, which is saying something. Casino Royale will always hold special nostalgic value. 

[tdalton]

It almost certainly won't surpass SKYFALL's box office, and will probably be deemed a "failure" in the eyes of the media because of this, but I have no doubt that I'll enjoy SPECTRE more than SKYFALL.

[Harmsway]

Oh, I could see Spectre doing better business than Skyfall overseas.

[Gay Bond]

If, like me, you're a tad disappointed with the song's lack of substance and high-pitched vocals, over the weekend I asked the master of virility himself Tom Jones if he would be willing to do another Bond theme. His reply: 

 

Yes. With the right song, yes. I think the songs are different now though. When I recorded Thunderball, it fit Sean Connery. It was a macho song for a macho James Bond at the time. I like Sam Smith and I'm looking forward to hearing his song.

 

 

Someone please get Babs on the blower   And for goodness sake, write the man an actual, hummable, memorable song. Blofeld, Shatterhand, Devil May Care... whatever. 

[The Dove]

The song's now a winner in my book, though definitely not in my top ten favorites, and I like the video a lot..

[007jamesbond]

Well the clips looks good and it seem like Bond will make Swann happy since she look very sad 

[DaveBond21]

Wow, No.1 in the UK, making it the most successful Bond theme ever, in Britain.

[sharpshooter]

The song's now a winner in my book, though definitely not in my top ten favorites, and I like the video a lot..

I'd now be tempted to vote 'I like it' in the poll.

 

Here's my guess about the editing process for the title sequence - the song flourishes at 3.30, then an edit is made. They remove the final "how do I breathe" sections and go straight to "for you I have to risk it all" part. I think they'll retain the low key ending to the song.

[The Dove]

My thoughts exactly.. Just like how they cut out most of the caterwauling and middle section of Another Way To Die for the actual title sequence of Quantum Of Solace.

[thecasinoroyale]

Just popping this in here....
 

[rubixcub]

I think the music video highlights the issues people were expressing with the structure of the song.  Note that they didn't use any action clips in the music video, but only some of the "sleepier" moments, i.e. love scenes, some intense looks, walking, observing.  There are only a couple of places where the use of action over the music would sound appropriate -- mainly at the build from the end of the verse into the chorus and the first several bars of each chorus (before the "how do I live..." section).

 

Still like the song overall but I have a hard time imagining what Kleinman is going to do with it.  It's going to be different, that much is a given.

 

Dave

[Single-O-Seven]

I think the music video highlights the issues people were expressing with the structure of the song. Note that they didn't use any action clips in the music video, but only some of the "sleepier" moments, i.e. love scenes, some intense looks, walking, observing. There are only a couple of places where the use of action over the music would sound appropriate -- mainly at the build from the end of the verse into the chorus and the first several bars of each chorus (before the "how do I live..." section).

Still like the song overall but I have a hard time imagining what Kleinman is going to do with it. It's going to be different, that much is a given.

Dave

I've wondered the same. I'm eager to see the titles perhaps more than usual because the song presents something so different. I was less than enthusiastic about the song on first listening but have come to appreciate it more over time. The way it will be woven into the movie and the titles intrigues me to no end.

[tdalton]

I'm actually very eager to see the title sequence as well, but only to see what Kleinman does with it. If he manages to pull it off in a way that actually makes the song work in any way, shape or form, then it will be a milestone achievement on his part.

[Single-O-Seven]

I'm actually very eager to see the title sequence as well, but only to see what Kleinman does with it. If he manages to pull it off in a way that actually makes the song work in any way, shape or form, then it will be a milestone achievement on his part.

If Kleinman does pull off something special that truly adds to or emphasizes the effect of the song, I wonder if those who have so far disliked the song on its own may change their opinion once they have those visuals to add to the experience? Has that happened to anybody with any of the past songs? I do like the titles for DAD, and find Madonna's song more tolerable when watching them or even while imagining them on those rare times when I do listen to that song.

[tdalton]

I'm actually very eager to see the title sequence as well, but only to see what Kleinman does with it. If he manages to pull it off in a way that actually makes the song work in any way, shape or form, then it will be a milestone achievement on his part.

If Kleinman does pull off something special that truly adds to or emphasizes the effect of the song, I wonder if those who have so far disliked the song on its own may change their opinion once they have those visuals to add to the experience? Has that happened to anybody with any of the past songs? I do like the titles for DAD, and find Madonna's song more tolerable when watching them or even while imagining them on those rare times when I do listen to that song.

Only to speak for myself and not everyone else who dislikes the song, but I doubt it'll go that way for me. It's not necessarily the song that I don't care for. If sung by someone else, it's certainly possible that it's a perfectly serviceable song. The problem that I have with it is that I don't think the performance of it is good at all.

[sharpshooter]

If Kleinman does pull off something special that truly adds to or emphasizes the effect of the song, I wonder if those who have so far disliked the song on its own may change their opinion once they have those visuals to add to the experience? Has that happened to anybody with any of the past songs? 

In 2008 I was hoping I'd like AWTD more with it accompanied by the title sequence. But no such luck - I still didn't like the song. I think No Good About Goodbye should've been the title song for QoS. The melody was utilized by David Arnold in the soundtrack and I think it worked quite well. 

[dtuba]

 

I'm actually very eager to see the title sequence as well, but only to see what Kleinman does with it. If he manages to pull it off in a way that actually makes the song work in any way, shape or form, then it will be a milestone achievement on his part.

If Kleinman does pull off something special that truly adds to or emphasizes the effect of the song, I wonder if those who have so far disliked the song on its own may change their opinion once they have those visuals to add to the experience? Has that happened to anybody with any of the past songs? I do like the titles for DAD, and find Madonna's song more tolerable when watching them or even while imagining them on those rare times when I do listen to that song.

 

The only thing that can ever improve DAD for me is the mute button.

 

As for WOTW, I have not listened to it yet and will do my damndest not to hear it before seeing the film itself. This is what I did for Skyfall. That way I can experience it for the first time with the title sequence and not risk disliking the song going in. Am I crazy?

Edited by dtuba, 07 October 2015 - 05:00 AM.

[Simon]

A little.

 

But I feel this is the way to 'hear' the song, and have advocated as such in the various comments.

 

Also 'Time' will allow it to be more accepted as a part of the canon.

[thecasinoroyale]

I hear on UK radio they've made the edit to get the length down, omitting the:

"I'm prepared for this
I never shoot to miss
But I feel like a storm is coming
If I'm gonna make it through the day
Then there's no more use in running
This is something I gotta face..."

[sharpshooter]

Interesting, thanks thecasinoroyale. Let's see if they do something similar for the film edit.

[thecasinoroyale]

I remember I was gutted with the 'Skyfall' edits, but I guess they have to.

 

IMO they can cut a verse and one of the repeated choruses to knock a chunk out and it wouldn't make a difference as the finale of the song I don't feel leads anywhere so it can be trimmed.

[The Shark]

I hear on UK radio they've made the edit to get the length down, omitting the:

"I'm prepared for this
I never shoot to miss
But I feel like a storm is coming
If I'm gonna make it through the day
Then there's no more use in running
This is something I gotta face..."

That's a shame. Not for lyrics, but I like the call-and-response string figure that starts here.

[thecasinoroyale]

I prefer that verse over the first, it starts to get going here but on the radio it seems it's worthy enough to cut.

[Gay Bond]

As for WOTW, I have not listened to it yet and will do my damndest not to hear it before seeing the film itself. This is what I did for Skyfall. That way I can experience it for the first time with the title sequence and not risk disliking the song going in. Am I crazy?

 

 

Well lots of people (including Smith himself) are adamant that the song is a grower - so in this instance, there may be some good to come from listening to it beforehand. Of course you then lose the element of surprise, so - your call