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[MkB]

Also; can you use the connecting doors on the Tube? I expect you probably can but no-one bothers. I don't think I've seen anyone ever do it.

Speaking of the Tube, you can't slide along the escalators either, TFL has taken care of that by planting plenty of triangular things in the middle.

Another blooper maybe (should be checked on DVD): in the Tube tunnels, Bond walks through a large puddle of water when he shoots at Silva. Just after that, when he's chatting with Silva, his shoes and the hem of his trousers do not seem wet.

[SecretAgentFan]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

Hm. Must check. Third viewing is overdue, anyway.

Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?

He uses the... uh... the... acceleration of... uh...

It probably just looked cool.

Or he thought he could land the motorcycle on top of the train and messed up? I mean, the last time he was on a motorcycle it all worked so well in QOS...

[MkB]

Just thought of another bizarre thing: when Bond tells Q he's going to the ground with M and asks him to leave breadcrumbs to Skyfall for Silva, he does so through the MI6 communication system, the very thing that he's trying to avoid because it's probably monitored by Silva's men. Duh!

[marktmurphy]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

You do see Patrice toss his gun away as he's walking along the top of the carriages. It's a quick shot in the foreground as the digger is doing some action, but it's there.

Speaking of the Tube, you can't slide along the escalators either, TFL has taken care of that by planting plenty of triangular things in the middle.

I think that's an edit: I read somewhere that Silva kicked them off as he slid down- when you see him land at the bottom you can see one of the triangular signs on the floor as if it had been broken off.

Just thought of another bizarre thing: when Bond tells Q he's going to the ground with M and asks him to leave breadcrumbs to Skyfall for Silva, he does so through the MI6 communication system, the very thing that he's trying to avoid because it's probably monitored by Silva's men. Duh!

Whoops! Great spot!

[FutureJamesBond]

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Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?

I think he was using the acceleration of the bike to get onto the last cart. If he just did a normal jump, he might not have made it. Truly, I don't know. Just a thought, I guess.

[stromberg]

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Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?

I think he was using the acceleration of the bike to get onto the last cart. If he just did a normal jump, he might not have made it. Truly, I don't know. Just a thought, I guess.

Been thinking about that myself. It takes some time to turn the bike around, drive it to the other side of the bridge, accelerate and jump. And IIRC, he doesn't jump that far. If he can't reach the train by jumping immediately, it doesn't work with the extra acceleration, either.

[Dustin]

Another thing: Bond's doing his little ultra-kinky Red-Indian-Surgery stunt (another very Western thing to do) and comes up with a couple of shards from Patrice's ultra-special uranium bullet. How does he know it's such a rare ammunition? There are plenty of armour-piercing bullets for all kinds of use, police, military, dictatorships-of-middle-to-world-class-league, international freelance assassins, so on. How does Bond even know the shards are from a fractured bullet and not the construction equipment on the train? The tec-guy should have told Bond he was shot by a Caterpillar...

[PPK_19]

I noticed that the train that Silva crashes through the tunnel in an attempt to kill Bond was completely empty. How lucky!

[Vauxhall]

I noticed that the train that Silva crashes through the tunnel in an attempt to kill Bond was completely empty. How lucky!

Yes, it had a notice "out of service" on the front. Seriously injuring so many innocent civilians probably wouldn't be a great move from the filmmakers, and I believe they actively try to avoid that sort of thing. What I noticed about that sequence was how long the train seemed to travel once it had crashed. It seemed to keep going and going as it plunged through the catacombs.

[marktmurphy]

I noticed that the train that Silva crashes through the tunnel in an attempt to kill Bond was completely empty. How lucky!

Yes, it had a notice "out of service" on the front. Seriously injuring so many innocent civilians probably wouldn't be a great move from the filmmakers, and I believe they actively try to avoid that sort of thing. What I noticed about that sequence was how long the train seemed to travel once it had crashed. It seemed to keep going and going as it plunged through the catacombs.

Well it's like a slinky I suppose; it's momentum and then the weight of the front half would pull it down.

[MkB]

Hey, it's was *not* empty, there was the train driver!

<Austin Powers's style rant>
It's so sad, nobody ever thinks of the poor train driver... His name was Ralph, he was a widower with 3 kids, a dog and 2 cats, what are they going to do now?
</Austin Powers's style rant>

[Vauxhall]

I noticed that the train that Silva crashes through the tunnel in an attempt to kill Bond was completely empty. How lucky!

Yes, it had a notice "out of service" on the front. Seriously injuring so many innocent civilians probably wouldn't be a great move from the filmmakers, and I believe they actively try to avoid that sort of thing. What I noticed about that sequence was how long the train seemed to travel once it had crashed. It seemed to keep going and going as it plunged through the catacombs.

Well it's like a slinky I suppose; it's momentum and then the weight of the front half would pull it down.

I think I was a bit unclear there; I was trying to say that it felt that they'd recycled shots of the train crashing from various angles in an effort to make the impact last longer. The chamber where Bond and Silva was relatively compact, but the train didn't stop moving for quite a long time.

[PPK_19]

Yes, it had a notice "out of service" on the front.

Ah, i didn't notice that, thanks Vaux.

Yes the bloody thing just kept on going didn't it? Since it was such a dangerous and expensive sequence i suppose they wanted to catch it from as many angles as possible and just keep showing its descent to get their money's worth.

[JazzyBond]

Where was Bond shot by Eve? We see his Patrice wound but where is hers?

[Pedro92]

This is my first message and my first attempt in trying to find a skyfall's gaffe (sorry for my english but i am Italian): when Patrice shoot the guy at the tower in Shangai, shouldn't the blood splash on Modigliani's paint? It seems that the shoot don't perforate his head... is that possible with a gun with such power (a sniper indeed)?

[Vauxhall]

Where was Bond shot by Eve? We see his Patrice wound but where is hers?

Bond's comments about sustaining broken ribs has led some to suspect that he gets hit in the chest but is wearing a bullet-proof vest. It could do with some explaining though.

[marktmurphy]

This is my first message and my first attempt in trying to find a skyfall's gaffe (sorry for my english but i am Italian): when Patrice shoot the guy at the tower in Shangai, shouldn't the blood splash on Modigliani's paint? It seems that the shoot don't perforate his head... is that possible with a gun with such power (a sniper indeed)?

It's a good point, yes.

[marktmurphy]

Why is James Bond wearing gloves in this photo?

[The Shark]

Because it looks cool? It's a promotional photo after all.

[mrevans]

Another thing: Bond's doing his little ultra-kinky Red-Indian-Surgery stunt (another very Western thing to do) and comes up with a couple of shards from Patrice's ultra-special uranium bullet. How does he know it's such a rare ammunition? There are plenty of armour-piercing bullets for all kinds of use, police, military, dictatorships-of-middle-to-world-class-league, international freelance assassins, so on. How does Bond even know the shards are from a fractured bullet and not the construction equipment on the train? The tec-guy should have told Bond he was shot by a Caterpillar...

I kind of thought, initially, he removed it because he couldn't heal properly, or was in a lot of pain, because the shards were still in his shoulder. He was having a hard time hitting the target during training. I thought the film seemed to suggest this was because of the pain from the injury. After removing it he noticed the ammunition was rare. That's just what I initially thought anyway.

[marktmurphy]

Because it looks cool? It's a promotional photo after all.

Maybe, but you know what I mean- gloves shouldn't have even been in his wardrobe for this scene or any involving that gun.

[Vauxhall]

Because it looks cool? It's a promotional photo after all.

Maybe, but you know what I mean- gloves shouldn't have even been in his wardrobe for this scene or any involving that gun.

Nope, exactly. I had that photo in the back of my mind when I noticed the gloves being on and then off again during the Shanghai tower scene.

[bill007]

Yes, we are picking apart an exemplary Bond film, but I do this to every film I see......... It's so darn fun.

1. Pre-title sequence, when 007 first catches up to Patrice, he (Patrice) is unloading on 007 with a double-drum auto pistol. Just after taking out the police motorcyles, Patrice's pistol has no double-drum.

2. When M is in Mallory's office for the "retirement" discussion, as she gets up to leave, she gathers her coat, while her handbag is on the floor next to the chair in which she was sitting. As the discussion concludes, she never picks up her bag. Yet, when she leaves, it is not on the floor next to the chair.

3. M enters her residence, 007 is in the shadows. In Casino Royale, when he broke into her flat, didn't she say if he ever did that again, she'd have him shot?

[Dustin]

Another thing: Bond's doing his little ultra-kinky Red-Indian-Surgery stunt (another very Western thing to do) and comes up with a couple of shards from Patrice's ultra-special uranium bullet. How does he know it's such a rare ammunition? There are plenty of armour-piercing bullets for all kinds of use, police, military, dictatorships-of-middle-to-world-class-league, international freelance assassins, so on. How does Bond even know the shards are from a fractured bullet and not the construction equipment on the train? The tec-guy should have told Bond he was shot by a Caterpillar...

I kind of thought, initially, he removed it because he couldn't heal properly, or was in a lot of pain, because the shards were still in his shoulder. He was having a hard time hitting the target during training. I thought the film seemed to suggest this was because of the pain from the injury. After removing it he noticed the ammunition was rare. That's just what I initially thought anyway.

That's an explanation, though I'm not sure if these shards would really have looked so exceptional without special equipment to examine them with. Also it's a bit odd he hasn't the remains removed much earlier. There are much more strenuous activities than shooting where they'd disturb Bond's performance...

[Vauxhall]

2. When M is in Mallory's office for the "retirement" discussion, as she gets up to leave, she gathers her coat, while her handbag is on the floor next to the chair in which she was sitting. As the discussion concludes, she never picks up her bag. Yet, when she leaves, it is not on the floor next to the chair.

Well remembered. I noticed that too, but forgot!

[stamper]

The subway appears full or nearly empty depending on the shots.

[Aisforauric]

Another thing: Bond's doing his little ultra-kinky Red-Indian-Surgery stunt (another very Western thing to do) and comes up with a couple of shards from Patrice's ultra-special uranium bullet. How does he know it's such a rare ammunition? There are plenty of armour-piercing bullets for all kinds of use, police, military, dictatorships-of-middle-to-world-class-league, international freelance assassins, so on. How does Bond even know the shards are from a fractured bullet and not the construction equipment on the train? The tec-guy should have told Bond he was shot by a Caterpillar...

I kind of thought, initially, he removed it because he couldn't heal properly, or was in a lot of pain, because the shards were still in his shoulder. He was having a hard time hitting the target during training. I thought the film seemed to suggest this was because of the pain from the injury. After removing it he noticed the ammunition was rare. That's just what I initially thought anyway.

That's an explanation, though I'm not sure if these shards would really have looked so exceptional without special equipment to examine them with. Also it's a bit odd he hasn't the remains removed much earlier. There are much more strenuous activities than shooting where they'd disturb Bond's performance...

Is it conceivable that Bond was actually experiencing radiation sickness due to the depleted Uranium being in his body hence the Rambo-esque surgery? We see him taking what we can only presume are painkillers in the beach scene in Turkey, so if they were, he was suffering something. I did a bit of back-reading regarding depleted Uranium and other than it's armour-piercing qualities in artillery rounds, it seems to be pretty nasty stuff to have hanging-around (especially in the bloodstream). Just my take....

[Aisforauric]

Because it looks cool? It's a promotional photo after all.

Maybe, but you know what I mean- gloves shouldn't have even been in his wardrobe for this scene or any involving that gun.

Nope, exactly. I had that photo in the back of my mind when I noticed the gloves being on and then off again during the Shanghai tower scene.

That did seem a bit inconsistent, agreed. Bond activated the PPK with glove off, hangs on to the lift gloves-off, then seems to put them on, take (I think) them off and then they reappear again when Patrice is dangling from the building after the fight.

[Hockey Mask]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

Hm. Must check. Third viewing is overdue, anyway.

Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

Hm. Must check. Third viewing is overdue, anyway.

Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?

Because he's a badass.

[Aisforauric]

Where was Bond shot by Eve? We see his Patrice wound but where is hers?

Bond's comments about sustaining broken ribs has led some to suspect that he gets hit in the chest but is wearing a bullet-proof vest. It could do with some explaining though.

Where was Bond shot by Eve? We see his Patrice wound but where is hers?

Bond's comments about sustaining broken ribs has led some to suspect that he gets hit in the chest but is wearing a bullet-proof vest. It could do with some explaining though.

I'm really glad you flagged this JazzyBond, as that really bugged me as it was so early in the film, and no-one has proffered any expalanation other than Bond must have been wearing a bullet-proof vest, which just doesn't sit well. Shame, this could have been elaborated on and nicely tied-up with a plot twist or revelation later.