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[marktmurphy]

Because we love the films we love to spot the little mistakes, errors and things which don't quite add up. So what did you spot?



How about, to kick us off: where did Bond get his natty little Laird of the Glen outfit from if all he took to Scotland was the suit on his back?
Or: why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

[JCRendle]

why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

She was in shock - she just shot Bond...

[thecasinoroyale]

I don't think Eve is able to turn her emotions off for caring about Bond as a friend and ally, and the fact she has shot him off a train possibly to his death...well, I don't think she can bring herself to talk much after, never mind line up another quick shot to kill Patrice, even if she wanted...

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I assume Bond found his "hunting" outfit in the Lodge. I assumed that is why it is so old-fashioned in its appearance. It probably belonged to Andrew Bond.

[Major Tallon]

Or: why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

I saw a storyboard where Eve took a second shot that missed. Either way, I agree with the assessments that she was too shaken by what she'd done to fire accurately, or even to remain in the field.

[marktmurphy]

why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

She was in shock - she just shot Bond...

Yeah I know: a good agent would have had another pop at Patrice- and we know she's not all that good!


Any other bloopers, though? Does the nasty robot CGI Daniel Craig head plonked on top of the motorbike rider in Istanbul count?
How about the Head of SIS not having a burglar alarm in her flat?
Where did all the signs on the slippy bit between the Underground escalators go? There was one lying on the ground when Silva lands but nothing showing how they didn't stop him and Bond sliding down.

[JCRendle]

Does the nasty robot CGI Daniel Craig head plonked on top of the motorbike rider in Istanbul count?

never noticed that, will look out for it on my next viewing

How about the Head of SIS not having a burglar alarm in her flat?

This is Bond we're talking about, he can get round a burglar alarm.

[marktmurphy]

Does the nasty robot CGI Daniel Craig head plonked on top of the motorbike rider in Istanbul count?

never noticed that, will look out for it on my next viewing

I really hope I didn't spoil it for you! Might be easier to see in IMAX- in some shots it works brilliantly.In some it looks very fake.

How about the Head of SIS not having a burglar alarm in her flat?

This is Bond we're talking about, he can get round a burglar alarm.

Yeah, but she doesn't even turn one off when she gets in the door. I thought that was a bit odd, but she probably has some sort of super clever Q branch version that doesn't mean she has to enter a code!

[Simon]

Not sure about the plastered on face of Craig on the bikes being a blooper as such, so much as it smacks of the production boys trying too hard to insert Craig into the action.

I actually would prefer to have long shots of riding / action as there will then be no jiggery pokery to take one out of the action. Also, you get a better indication of what's going on and just how bloody ridiculously hard all this stuff must be.

Must admit from my almost tangential viewpoint of the Albert Hall screen, I missed the escalator slip prevention bits, but they appeared not to be afixed at all so just figured they weren't used. Second viewing necessary, evidently.

[Vauxhall]

As Bond runs towards the Whitehall office building, he passes City of London bollards. They should have City of Westminster branding.

[MkB]

I assume Bond found his "hunting" outfit in the Lodge. I assumed that is why it is so old-fashioned in its appearance. It probably belonged to Andrew Bond.

Now, Barbour will not be pleased!

Or: why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

I saw a storyboard where Eve took a second shot that missed.

Too bad, I would have preferred this option.

[TheManwiththeWaltherPPK]

I assume Bond found his "hunting" outfit in the Lodge. I assumed that is why it is so old-fashioned in its appearance. It probably belonged to Andrew Bond.

Now, Barbour will not be pleased!

Sorry, I'm a new worlder. My idea of modern hunting garb is full body camo and a garish orange vest. When I say Bond's get-up looks old-fashioned, I mean it in an awesome way. Would "timeless" be less offensive to Barbour?

[thecasinoroyale]

So far it seems there's only 1 gaffe spotted and we're being very picky about bits in this near flawless film...!!

[SecretAgentFan]

Or: why didn't Eve shoot Patrice from the roof of the train as well as Bond?

I saw a storyboard where Eve took a second shot that missed. Either way, I agree with the assessments that she was too shaken by what she'd done to fire accurately, or even to remain in the field.

That´s what I think, too.

[marktmurphy]

So Silva planned to get captured, and his plan for this hinged on, what? Bond pulling Patrice's bullet out of his shoulder? Isn't that a bit unlikely?

[thecasinoroyale]

I think Silva knew he would be up against someone like James Bond and was only counting the days until MI6 / Bond caught up with him through his own breadcrumbs...

[SecretAgentFan]

I guess Silva would have gone to England either way. Bond was just one method to do it, and a deliciously evil one, therefore attractive to him.

[marktmurphy]

I guess Silva would have gone to England either way. Bond was just one method to do it, and a deliciously evil one, therefore attractive to him.

Good point- why did he have to get captured anyway? What did that add to his plan? Just to have a little chat with M? I know he's mad, but it might have made more sense to try and kidnap her, then talk to her a bit, then kill her. Wearing a policeman's hat is optional.

[Roebuck]

I guess Silva would have gone to England either way. Bond was just one method to do it, and a deliciously evil one, therefore attractive to him.

Good point- why did he have to get captured anyway? What did that add to his plan? Just to have a little chat with M? I know he's mad, but it might have made more sense to try and kidnap her, then talk to her a bit, then kill her. Wearing a policeman's hat is optional.

My suspicion is that bringing Silva back to London in chains (so to speak) and having him escape was just so the writers could shoehorn in the underground chase dumped from Die Another Day. I’m not convinced there was there was any real point in crashing that tube train. Did Silva hope the incident would draw police away from where the inquiry was being held? There must have been simpler way ways of achieving that (though they may not have looked as dramatic on the trailers). Much as I liked Skyfall, it suffers from quite a bit of this sort of clunky plot mechanics where story seems to be serving set-pieces rather than the other way around.

[marktmurphy]

Yes; he had no real need to get inside MI6. They needed to give him a reason to want to get in there; as it was it seems the only reason he did was so he could get his laptop in there to inject a virus which would allow him to escape. Which is like walking into a prison so you can pick up the key on the table.

[MkB]

I assume Bond found his "hunting" outfit in the Lodge. I assumed that is why it is so old-fashioned in its appearance. It probably belonged to Andrew Bond.

Now, Barbour will not be pleased!

Sorry, I'm a new worlder. My idea of modern hunting garb is full body camo and a garish orange vest. When I say Bond's get-up looks old-fashioned, I mean it in an awesome way. Would "timeless" be less offensive to Barbour?

That's much better, TheManwiththeWaltherPPK!

But about the spare cloths, we can always assume that Bond always has a set of spare clothes in the boot of his car. And it would make sense if they were more "countrry clothes" than his usual outfit, since you don't really want to change a wheel in a Tom Ford suit - I guess.
I mean, hell, if you're going to equip your car with an ejector seat and canons in the front bumper, surely you'll want to be thorough and also have the hunting garb that comes with stowed away in the boot, with a spare toothbrush and, if you're really well prepared, a swiss army knife

[Vauxhall]

In the Shanghai office sequence, Bond has taken his gloves off so he can use the palm recognition of the Walther. However, when Patrice grabs his hand to avoid falling from the building, Bond is wearing the gloves again. Not quite sure if they reappeared before or after the fistfight.

[marktmurphy]

M's car is stopped by a roadblock which appears to be pretty much next to the MI6 building, however when she looks at the building she's standing more towards the middle of the bridge.

Also; can you use the connecting doors on the Tube? I expect you probably can but no-one bothers. I don't think I've seen anyone ever do it.

[Vauxhall]

Nope, you can't use the connecting doors. They have a warning of death if one tries.

[DR76]

How did a list of MI6 and CIA agents end up in the laptop hard drive of a MI6 field agent in Istanbul?

[bonds_walther]

Speaking of the Underground scene, when Bond first enters the tunnel, the lights are on. When the LU tubes run, the lights are off. They only have those lights on when people are working in the tunnels at night.

Edited by bonds_walther, 08 November 2012 - 06:26 PM.

[Vauxhall]

How did a list of MI6 and CIA agents end up in the laptop hard drive of a MI6 field agent in Istanbul?

Ronson may have been a top MI6 agent with access to sensitive data and therefore with permission to have such information on his laptop, but Silva/Patrice happened to get to him and the data.

[stromberg]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

[Vauxhall]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

[stromberg]

Why does Patrice wait for Bond after he uncoupled the wagons? All he has to do is wait until Bond has entered the digger, then run away and uncouple that wagon, too, and off he goes with the rest of the train...

I assume Patrice must have run out of ammunition to uncouple the carriages, as if his weapon was still working, I would have expected him to blast Bond away as he ran down the digger's arm completely exposed.

Hm. Must check. Third viewing is overdue, anyway.

Another one: on the bridge, at the beginning of the train sequence, does he really have to do that motorcycle stunt? Looks a bit strange - why doesn't he just jump?