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[Shrublands]

We know it’s going in there somewhere. I’m going to stick my neck out even further and say that this film could push LALD out of position 3.

That would be simply incredible, and wonderfully appropriate in light of the special relationship of LALD to Mendes and Bardem.

I know. Exciting times for Bond’s international popularity (and hopefully financial inspiration for a commitment to Skyfall-level-quality).

[stromberg]

Figures for Germany are just in:
Opening weekend (Thhursday to Sunday): 16.3 Million Euros (equates 1.88 Million spectators). Record for a Bond movie, the only other movie that opened better was HP and the Half Blood Prince.

Impressive.

[thecasinoroyale]

Hopefully for North America it will smash the Top November opening weekend and knock Twlight: New Moon off with $142,839,137.

And HOPEFULLY if it does that, can keep the record through the month away from the competition...!

[Elvenstar]

does anyone know how many screens SF will lose in its 2nd week bc of Twilight in the US?

[Germanlady]

Does it have to? If SF is being excellent moneywise, why kick their own ? Can't they just slow down on some other pics? Probably not

[YOLT]

Two weeks ago this was my prediction: Total for Foreign box office: $450M - $500M. Total for Domestic: $210M. Worldwide Total: $650M - $690M

At almost $300M foreign BO, The film will do anywhere from $500M-$550M. Domestic will probably stay the same, $210. Worldwide, at this rate, you're right it'll make more than just $700M worldwide. Anywhere from $730M-$760M is my estimate.

Yes. I think you’re in the right ballpark. However, I’m going to suggest a bit higher. As you say, non-domestic stands at around $300m – so your total of $450m -$500m would mean it only taking another $150m to $200m in the whole of the rest of its run overseas. It made the lower end of that estimate in the last 3 days alone. This would represent a dramatic turnaround for its popularity, and one that I don’t see happening.
I think the final overseas tally will be more like $600m to $650m.
Domestic, I think could be $210m to $240m - let’s split the difference and say $225m. So, I’m going to stick my neck out here and say I think we are going to see a worldwide take of over $800m

Inflation adjusted, the top 10 Bond films are…

1. $1,037,291,060.32 - Thunderball
2. $932,346,267.74 - Goldfinger
3. $843,280,463.96 - Live And Let Die
4. $773,204,227.54 - You Only Live Twice
5. $707,967,950.50 - The Spy Who Loved Me
6. $682,098,608.86 - Casino Royale
7. $670,341,133.13 - Moonraker
8. $662,795,358.02 - Diamonds Are Forever
9. $629,928,504.77 - Quantum Of Solace
10. $596,667,068.63 - From Russia With Love

We know it’s going in there somewhere. I’m going to stick my neck out even further and say that this film could push LALD out of position 3.

I will really be happy if it can pass YOLT. However LALD seems far away. It will need 600-650 m$ OS. GF and TB seems impossible. Maybe oneday...

[thecasinoroyale]

At least it's not that bad it will be battling against it's own products, as Bond as a whole franchise, so I'll be chuffed whatever it ranks amongst them! Hopefully Top 5 with all the rave reviews and desire for Bond this year will rocket it up.

[SecretAgent007]

Do you think the US opening will be down do to the aftermath of the hurricane?

[Shrublands]

LALD seems far away. It will need 600-650 m$ OS.

It’s my belief it will get there. Across all territories that Skyfall has opened, it’s up an average of 56% on QoS. It has vastly better figures in its first to second week drop-offs (eg. SF did better in its second weekend than QoS did in its first in the UK and there are similarly impressive second weekends across the board)

This film could well get to over $650m overseas. It's so far proving to be a mind boggling success.

[YOLT]

LALD seems far away. It will need 600-650 m$ OS.

It’s my belief it will get there. Across all territories that Skyfall has opened, it’s up an average of 56% on QoS. It has vastly better figures in its first to second week drop-offs (eg. SF did better in its second weekend than QoS did in its first in the UK and there are similarly impressive second weeks across the board)

This film could well get to over $650m overseas. It's so far proving to be a mind boggling success.

I hope it will. It seems 600m$ OS is in the bank. However as time passes every single $ will be hard to earn. Also the US boxoffice is important. I accept that it has chance to pass LALD, but it will be difficult. We will see.

The best part of a 007 movie for me has started great: The Boxoffice

[Shrublands]

LALD seems far away. It will need 600-650 m$ OS.

It’s my belief it will get there. Across all territories that Skyfall has opened, it’s up an average of 56% on QoS. It has vastly better figures in its first to second week drop-offs (eg. SF did better in its second weekend than QoS did in its first in the UK and there are similarly impressive second weeks across the board)

This film could well get to over $650m overseas. It's so far proving to be a mind boggling success.

I hope it will. It seems 600m$ OS is in the bank. However as time passes every single $ will be hard to earn. Also the US boxoffice is important. I accept that it has chance to pass LALD, but it will be difficult. We will see.

The best part of a 007 movie for me has started great: The Boxoffice

I’m not saying it will be plain sailing. As I said above, I believe I’m sticking my neck out by suggesting it. It may well be very close, but I now believe that it is quite possible.

It's amazing isn't it? Back in the 90s, the Bond films were considered gigantic success again. But the heights of films such as DAF, MR and TSWLM seemed part of the past and unachievable in the future for Bond. That was all proven wrong with CR. Now we are looking even higher, at the likes of YOLT and LALD with a very real chance of getting to that level.

When it comes to successes and Skyfall, I think it’s got a few surprises in store for us yet.

[Stainless Steel Teeth INC]

does anyone know how many screens SF will lose in its 2nd week bc of Twilight in the US?

It's hard to say exactly how many screens will be lost to Twilight in Skyfall's second week of release but if it proves to be as successful in the States as it has already proved to be around the world it is more likely to take screens from both 'Taken 2' and 'Argo' who share similar demographics with the Bond audience.

If Skyfall does hold well then we can expect an improved third week as America enjoys Thanksgiving weekend thus giving Bond 23 a wonderful opportunity to claim its best (non adjusted) US box office results to date.

[Pussfeller]

Good point. It's a perfect Thanksgiving movie.

[Satorious]

Adjusting the $ for inflation and box-office receipts don't really mean a great deal to me. It's interesting, but there are so many other factors to consider (eg. the early movies were released way before the likes of DVD/Blu-ray sales or rentals/online streaming). I'd be curious to look at the profit margins (eg. World-wide boxoffice minus the film budget and promotional costs). I bet doing that would contain a few surprises.

Anyway, I'm extremely happy to see SkyFall doing so well which is obviously keeps the franchise running.

http://www.boxoffice...sets-uk-records

[YOLT]

Adjusting the $ for inflation and box-office receipts don't really mean a great deal to me. It's interesting, but there are so many other factors to consider (eg. the early movies were released way before the likes of DVD/Blu-ray sales or rentals/online streaming). I'd be curious to look at the profit margins (eg. World-wide boxoffice minus the film budget and promotional costs). I bet doing that would contain a few surprises.

Anyway, I'm extremely happy to see SkyFall doing so well which is obviously keeps the franchise running.

http://www.boxoffice...sets-uk-records

Yes early movies had the advantage of released way before the likes of DVD/Blu-ray sales or rentals/online streaming, but the population in 1960's was half as of now, and many countries ( Russia, ex-communist countries, China etc, ) didnt even had 007 movies shown. As for the profit margin, there is no way that a modern-day movie to catch the profit margin in the 1960s or even 1970s. On page 2 there is a chart showing the margins.

[quantumofsolace]

http://www.sfx.co.uk...ts-287-million/

http://www.denofgeek...vie-of-all-time

http://www.guardian....x-office-record

Edited by quantumofsolace, 05 November 2012 - 10:45 PM.

[Shrublands]

The actuals are in and it's slightly up to $289m.
It's good to see it up by a few million, not down. That's been the case with Skyfall. The amazing estimated have been slightly below the actuals. This one goes from $287m to $289m.

[JazzyBond]

If this has been mentioned already I apologize but has anyone noticed that in the U.S. Steven Spielberg's "Lincoln" is being pushed back a week to November 16th? Could this be because it sees itself getting outshined by Skyfall? It may want to pit it's adult content against the teen Twilight series that opens the same day. This weekend Skyfall really has no other new releases coming out which should really boost the Box Office take!

[x007AceOfSpades]

November 9th is just a limited release for 'Lincoln' wide release the 16th.

[Elvenstar]

does anyone know how many screens SF will lose in its 2nd week bc of Twilight in the US?

It's hard to say exactly how many screens will be lost to Twilight in Skyfall's second week of release but if it proves to be as successful in the States as it has already proved to be around the world it is more likely to take screens from both 'Taken 2' and 'Argo' who share similar demographics with the Bond audience.

If Skyfall does hold well then we can expect an improved third week as America enjoys Thanksgiving weekend thus giving Bond 23 a wonderful opportunity to claim its best (non adjusted) US box office results to date.

thanks a lot for the answer
I hope Sony will do everything for it to be in as many theaters as possible

[Elvenstar]

predictions

http://www.comingsoo...ws.php?id=96682

[jamie00007]

$320 million at the box office now and predicted to make $400 million by the end of the weekend, not counting North America:
http://www.screendai...&contentID=1846

Meaning if it has a successful opening in the States it could already be at half a billion by the weekends end! Crazy.

[supernova]

I've read on several online sites that expectations for the worldwide box office is now ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

[Elvenstar]

lol iId love to believe in miracles but keep my expectations low
just in case...

[YOLT]

I've read on several online sites that expectations for the worldwide box office is now ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

Sorry but wont happen. I will never write on the forums again if that happens. It will need 700m$ OS and 300m$ USA. I even doubt if it can pass LALD (843m$)

Btw, I will really be happy if it can pass all the records. No offense to skyfall there.

[JCRendle]

looking at Box Office Mojo, South Korea seem to absolutely love Skyfall - over $11m, that's the forth highest gross after the UK, France and Germany. Box Office Mojo don't seem to be currently up to date though, they are showing $289m "internationally", whilst other other sources, including Screen Daily, are reporting Skyfall is already over $320m.

[Shrublands]

Yes, $320m was as of Tuesday.

[JCRendle]

I always thought BOM was the best source for movie takings - are there any other sites that update more regularly but show the same sort of information?

[thecasinoroyale]

$320m and not even hit America as yet - sensational work! Didn't think we'd see this much craze for 'Skyfall' I have to say.

[Shrublands]

I've read on several online sites that expectations for the worldwide box office is now ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

Sorry but wont happen. I will never write on the forums again if that happens. It will need 700m$ OS and 300m$ USA. I even doubt if it can pass LALD (843m$)

The current overseas markets will probably reach around $530m.
The territories yet to open (including China, Japan and Australia) could easily add $120m to that for a $650m overseas total.

That takes us to the question of what will Skyfall take in North America – if it does $200m or better (and I think it will) it beats the inflation adjusted take of LALD. Which would be an amazing achievement, putting it only below the mighty GF and TB.