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[The Shark]

If Bond is given a gadget, I want it to be something that could spy on his target - pin hole cameras and microphones to spy on his enemies etc.

Or kill/defend against his target. Bond isn't just an intelligence gatherer. His just job was to destroy "the threat behind the spy, the threat that made them spy" to quote Fleming.

Take a hint from Spooks (known in the US/Canada as MI:6 i think) for realistic gadgets

Nah, Bond should be somewhat surreal and larger than life. SPOOKS/MI6 is too bland, everyday, right-on, and colourless. I'm already concerned about some of the SPOOKS-vibes we're getting in the London scenes of SKYFALL, but I hope I'm wrong.

Look to the gadgets Fleming used. Red Grant's book gun, Rosa Klebb's telephone gun, poison-tipped knitting needles, cane gun, desk gun, camera case bomb, and cyanide-firing gun. In fact, just think of an object and put a gun in it.

[007jamesbond]

Bond already has some little gadget in CR.......his phone had GPS and also a listening device on LeClaiffe Asthma thing that is also a tracker I think? His car was also have some vital equipment too. I think standard spy issue in the field should be used

[The Shark]

Bond already has some little gadget in CR.......his phone had GPS and also a listening device on LeClaiffe Asthma thing that is also a tracker I think? His car was also have some vital equipment too.

Too boring to be qualified as a Bond gadget.

[JCRendle]

I think one of the problems with later Bond films was that the gadgets got too surreal. Fleming's gadgets were always grounded in reality for their time,

[The Shark]

Agreed. It's crucial to find a balance.

[killkenny kid]

I really want them to stay away from gadgets with this one, But we do have Q so....

[S K Y F A L L]

Q or B might not have any gadgets for him but just be their to give Bond a break down on the technology involved in Bonds mission.

[AMC Hornet]

Remeber, Q branch originally included forensics as well as the armoury.

[volante]

Early Bond had gadgets; because Fleming knew they existed - we didn't.
When Dr. No came out (I was 7) I didnt know Jamacia existed. It would be three years until the first American space walk.
The Dragon tank was frightning.
FRWL gave us the Briefcase; and the camera which was really a tape recorder.
GF gave us the DB5 the laserbeam and Oddjob.
Nowadays the gadgets (or Apps) on smart phones can do most things.
Roger's Rolex was a saw, Pierce's Omega was a laser (oh how we gasped) If Daniel used his mobile to slice open a door; the kids would be googling to see when they could get one.
Stay away from gadgets; technology has already overtaken them.

[JCRendle]

That's the problem with Bond "gadgets" these days, what could be conceivably seen as spy gadgets today would be seen as boring to most people. Spys in the "naughties" or whatever you call the time frame today still use everyday objects to hide pinhole cameras. The outlandish gadgets seen in modern spy films seem too OTT, too sci-fi - like whoever had written them are going for more of a spoof of a spy film - look at the backlash over the Aston Martin "Vanish"ing car. Unless the makers of new Bond films, especially those in the Craig Bond time line, find something innovative but realistic, they will be criticised.

Casino Royale had the GPS tracking app on the phone and the defibrillation device in the car, and yet it was still criticised for having too few gadgets.

[thecasinoroyale]

IMO, the best gadgets are the ones that everyone could have in their home / work and Q makes them far more interesting and / or explosive! Some exmaples off the top of my head are...

Suitcase with hidden compartments - 'From Russia With Love'
Shoe with homing device in the heel - 'Goldfinger'
The genuine Felix lighter - 'Live And Let Die'
Explosive key fob - 'The Living Daylights'
Dentonite toothpaste - 'Licence To Kill'
Parker Pen grenade - 'GoldenEye'
Omega watch / laser / grappling hook / LED - Various Brosnan films

If we get some of these outrageous, yet made believeable gadgets from this new-worldy Q/B/what-ever-his-name-is to Craig's Bond that he can actually use to good use, I'll be very happy.

Every gadget needs to be used to get Bond the upper hand so we can cheer Bond AND Q/B/what-ever-his-name-is.

Here's hoping!

[JCRendle]

Q/B/what-ever-his-name-is

Q

Whatever the film says, if he's the Quartermaster, then he is Q.

[The Shark]

If Daniel used his mobile to slice open a door; the kids would be googling to see when they could get one.

Did kids go on Ebay to buy the blades that fire from Batman's wrist in THE DARK KNIGHT, or that sonar system?

[Dustin]

If Daniel used his mobile to slice open a door; the kids would be googling to see when they could get one.

Did kids go on Ebay to buy the blades that fire from Batman's wrist in THE DARK KNIGHT, or that sonar system?

No, in general kids are much more pragmatic. They take a knife or a gun for whatever business they have in mind. Firing blades and sonar system come alone come Christmas...

[Shrublands]

If Daniel used his mobile to slice open a door; the kids would be googling to see when they could get one.

Did kids go on Ebay to buy the blades that fire from Batman's wrist in THE DARK KNIGHT, or that sonar system?

Exactly, people might say “gadgets are everywhere nowadays,” but Bond should have ingenious, deadly devises that are not common place.
That doesn't mean that they should be far-fetched. Just lethal and clever.

[SkyfallCraig]

Hi, I'm a new User from Italy. I really love Bond and I read this forum a lot before registering.
I have a theory about the plot, in particular about the sources that could have been used to write the screenplay.
It is possible that the screenwriters has taken inspiration from Carte Blanche by Jeffery Deaver? I mean, in both there is (or could be in Skyfall) references about Bond parents, and Skyfall should be a cold war operation involving them, in particular their death. It looks like Purvis & Wade took some elements from that book and uses them to write a new screenplay with some difference.
What do you think?

[Shrublands]

Hi, I'm a new User from Italy. I really love Bond and I read this forum a lot before registering.
I have a theory about the plot, in particular about the sources that could have been used to write the screenplay.
It is possible that the screenwriters has taken inspiration from Carte Blanche by Jeffery Deaver? I mean, in both there is (or could be in Skyfall) references about Bond parents, and Skyfall should be a cold war operation involving them, in particular their death. It looks like Purvis & Wade took some elements from that book and uses them to write a new screenplay with some difference.
What do you think?

Hi, welcome aboard.
No – I don’t think anyone involved with Skyfall took anything from Carte Blanche. It’s screenplay has been in the works since long before Deaver's book.
In fact, Eon has officially issued a statement that the two are completely unconnected.

[univex]

If Daniel used his mobile to slice open a door; the kids would be googling to see when they could get one.

Did kids go on Ebay to buy the blades that fire from Batman's wrist in THE DARK KNIGHT, or that sonar system?

Exactly, people might say “gadgets are everywhere nowadays,” but Bond should have ingenious, deadly devises that are not common place.
That doesn't mean that they should be far-fetched. Just lethal and clever.

The knife and the folding Ar-7 sniper in the briefcase being a good example.

[S K Y F A L L]

As far as I'm concerned M is already dead, the film seems to be about her more then any other and the hush hush about it leads me to these conclusions.

The whole scene of Bond standing on the roof and getting the box from Eve just seems like a clear indication that it is the end of an era and the beginning of a new one.
Why isn't M standing their with him?
Why isn't Eve look happier to see Bond?
Why does Bond look unhappy?

Out with the old (Dench) and in with the new (Q).
I'm worried if she doesn't die I will be disappointed........

[The Dove]

I'm surprised that nobody is discussing the NEWLY released plot synopsis which EON just put out and our own Mharkin...err DamnCoffee put on the CBN main page..

"When Bond’s latest assignment goes gravely wrong and agents around the world are exposed, MI6 is attacked forcing M to relocate the agency. These events cause her authority and position to be challenged by Mallory (RALPH FIENNES), the new Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee. With MI6 now compromised from both inside and out, M is left with one ally she can trust: Bond. 007 takes to the shadows – aided only by field agent, Eve (NAOMIE HARRIS) – following a trail to the mysterious Silva (JAVIER BARDEM), whose lethal and hidden motives have yet to reveal themselves."

Pretty much the same as before, but some more detail in this..Exciting all the same..

[JimmyBond]

My favorite part is when the summary matter of factly tells us that M trusts Bond. It's about damn time!

[Mr_Wint]

Shooting him wasn't a nice way to show it. This time we will explore how much Bond actually can trust M.

[Matt_13]

Yeah I thought the bit about M trusting Bond was pretty funny given the backlash from the nature of the last two films.

[007jamesbond]

The only new thing here is Mallory role as he seems to M's boss.....I wonder if he is sir G Mallory after all he is the Chairman and the possible new "M" There been suggestion it is something like John Scarlett who would leave his current position to take over MI6....this idea was taken from the other Bond side but I think that is possible

I think that since MI6 has been "compromised" M can only trust her best agent 007 and no one else, not even her own chief of Staff!

I am also guessing that Helen McCory character Clair who is a MP is part of this committee working with Mallory

Edited by 007jamesbond, 15 September 2012 - 06:42 PM.

[JimmyBond]

Shooting him wasn't a nice way to show it. This time we will explore how much Bond actually can trust M.

It's pretty apparent from the trailer that Bond being shot is an accident. Eve was going after Patrice.

[Pussfeller]

Yeah, the "M wants Bond dead" interpretation doesn't make much sense. It implies that Eve shoots Bond deliberately, which means that her overt display of hesitation and panic is a performance put on for the benefit of... no witnesses whatsoever. It's clear that M frantically wishes for Patrice to be shot, and Eve simply bungles it.

Or perhaps Bond bungles it. It may well be that 007 is under express orders to back off from Patrice and allow Eve to take a clear shot, but instead he decides to stuff his orders and finish the job himself, or he simply gets caught up in the fisticuffs. Craig-Bond has a habit of reckless hotdog-ism, so it's not implausible that he would break discipline and put himself in the line of fire. In this event, M is perfectly justified in ordering Eve to take the shot, and Eve can't really be blamed for missing her mark.

But this still doesn't explain why M is so adamant that Eve take a shot in the first place. Why is it vitally important that Patrice be killed immediately by a sniper, even at the risk of hitting Bond? Why not let Bond handle it? Doesn't he have a record of success in situations like this?

[AMC Hornet]

...Or perhaps the order of film clips is deliberately rearranged, so that we''ll think Bond was shot by Eve, and keep talking about it for the next month?

Just sayin'.

[TheSilhouette]

Spoiler

Bond was accidentally shot by Eve. Period. In scene 38, he and M have a discussion on whether or not M lost her nerve by ordering Eve to take the shot instead of trusting him to finish the job. That is actually where the "I made a judgment call." line in the trailer is from. They manipulated it to make it sound like it was during her exchange with Mallory. Unless, of course, she says that line during both conversations.

Edited by TheSilhouette, 16 September 2012 - 01:11 AM.

[Vauxhall]

I am also guessing that Helen McCory character Clair who is a MP is part of this committee working with Mallory

That's correct, yes.

[Pussfeller]

I wonder if McCrory's character is one of the victims of the shootout in the paneled room.