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[Mister E]

"As for his future as 007, Craig hinted that the longstanding Q and Miss Moneypenny characters may finally show up once again. ‘I think we can introduce Moneypenny and Q back into their roles. We have got to offer them to the best actors possible.’"

Regarding this quote from Craig I think its %99 that we will have Q and Moneypenny in Bond 23. I think like introducing James Bond it will be wise for the producers to introduce Q and Moneypenny.

God, I hope not. Q always made Bond redundant by knowing exactly what Bond would need for his assignment - it's a wonder MI6 just didn't bother with Bond and instead went straight to Q and asked him what was happening - while there's not a single Moneypenny scene that you couldn't cut without it negatively affecting the plot.

Really both roles never needed to be there. We really didn't need to see either of them but the actors mad their preformances worth watching. Now that both of them are gone, we don't need Q or Moneypenny anymore.

[00Twelve]

Craig allowed for there to be a new perspective of these movies. CR was about a man who happened to be named "James Bond," but this is not the same tuxedo-clad jet-packing eyebrow-raising agent I've gotten tired of used to. Same goes for Leiter and Dench's M (sorry, DaveBond, her M is as much the same as her old M as Craig's Bond is to Brosnan's).

I'd like to see Moneypenny and/or Q to be treated the same way. People named "Moneypenny" and "Boothroyd," but not bound by the characterizations created by Maxwell and Llewelyn (much as I do love them).

[screwjack]

Alan Rickman for Q. You know it. I know it.

I'm certain he could deliver quite a scathing "Grow up, 007!"

[killkenny kid]

I'd like to see Moneypenny and/or Q to be treated the same way. People named "Moneypenny" and "Boothroyd," but not bound by the characterizations created by Maxwell and Llewelyn (much as I do love them).

If in fact they do return, this the best way to move foward with these characters.

[Bryce (003)]

I was kicking around notions of this with 004 the other day.

He wasn't sure he could name anyone as Q, but did suggest that Q should be more in the vein of Algernon from NSNA. A bit less straight laced and overall bothered that his department isn't as respected as other divisions of MI6, yet somewhat proud of his achievments and likes Bond.

I took the other side of the coin and gave Moneypenny some thought. Now, granted, she's established and already been featured in another spy series, but what about Elizabeth Hurley? I know, many feel there's no middle ground for her as I've gathered (love/hate her), but it *maybe* could work.

I think she'd be good opposite both Craig and Dench. Wouldn't have to have much required of her and perhaps be a bit icy. Similar to what Samantha Bond was.

Not really doting, but somehwhat (seemingly) enticed by Craig's more gritty Bond.

Take it as you will, but hey, it's just a thought.

Of course, no one can ever hold a candle to our lovely Lois. I recall reading somewhere that, for the 23 years she was Moneypenny, she only had about 10 minutes of total screen time over all the films and only worked about 15 days combined.

As George put it so well in OHMSS: "Same old Moneypenny. Britain's last line of defence."

[Double-Oh Agent]

Q the actor who put the tracking device in bond in Casino Royale

Moneypenny the brunette who was in the "Bond's been Poisoned Scene"

They would be Peter Notley and Rebecca Gethings. However, the thing with Notley is that he is a special effects guy, not an actor. Casino Royale is the only acting thing he's done.

Personally, I don't have a problem with John Cleese returning whether he plays Q much as he did in Die Another Day (but not TWINE) or even a more serious version. After all, if Judi Dench can come back to the Bond Begins timeline, why not Cleese?

However, if new actors are cast, my votes would go to Hugh Lawrie and Emilia Fox.

[Golden Claw]

I would like to see Bond tenderly flirting with Moneypenny as in Dr. No & FRWL. Nothing else. Moneypenny shouldn't be there for comic relief. As for Q, not needed IMO. I like a gadgetless movies. If needed, maybe Q branch or somebody called Major Boothroyd will do. But I hope they don't go overboard with the gadgets in the future.

As for the casting, Hayley Atwell will be fantastic as Moneypenny.

[bond 16.05.72]

You can't have actors appearing doing Q impersonations or worse Basil Fawlty telling Bond off.

Q is a harder one to re-cast but Jessica Stevenson or Hynes of Spaced Fame would make a great MP, she can handle the comic aspect, (needs to be subtle and clever) and the idea of her being one of Bond's old conquests makes sense.

Sexual tension but none of the nudge nudge wink wink rubbish, no more pumping for information smut.

I'm not a school boy and that kind of thing is just crass, a modern take on the early entries where there was good partnership between M & MP.

Q is the interesting one and it relies on how they re-introduce him, giving Craig's Bond silly gadgets with school master like attitude scolding Bond for being silly is so done to death.

Q doesn't ncessarily have to be some excuse for humour, intoduce a Llewelyn clone and people will expect that kind of lazy thing all the time, Desmond was Ok in PB's era but a shadow of his former self, a character which was redundant by the Moore era and just presented for familiarity.

It's dodgy ground and it needs to be done right.

I'm not condoning it but if they insist I want it done right

Over to you EON!

[AndyMUFC]

I don't really want to see Q return to be honest. Llewellyn WAS Q. They can bring in the gadgets without bringing in a new Q. I can live without Moneypenny too. I know alot of fans love the character but she never really did much for me and the new actress would only be compared to Lois Maxwell.

[Pete]

If they have to bring them back I'd prefer to have what Gardner had a female Q (Q'ute) and combine both characters into one.

[stamper]

What's Q gonna do ? Demo the new Sony Iphone ? Really, aren't gadgets part of our lives right now, and lost they unique appeal ? We are surrounded by Gadgets. Q is not needed. Let old Desmond memory in respect. It's the 21st century now.

[00Twelve]

What's Q gonna do ? Demo the new Sony Iphone ? Really, aren't gadgets part of our lives right now, and lost they unique appeal ? We are surrounded by Gadgets. Q is not needed. Let old Desmond memory in respect. It's the 21st century now.

But Q is supposed to be the "armourer". We have media gadgets, but not weaponized ones.

[double o ego]

As for the casting, Hayley Atwell will be fantastic as Moneypenny.

She would. I actually went to the same secondary school as her and we were good friends, despite her being a couple years older. Although, most of her time was spent in school production plays. I'm proud of her achievments. I'd love to see her as moneypenny.

What's Q gonna do ? Demo the new Sony Iphone ? Really, aren't gadgets part of our lives right now, and lost they unique appeal ? We are surrounded by Gadgets. Q is not needed. Let old Desmond memory in respect. It's the 21st century now.

Sony Iphone?? Looks like some one needs a crash course on branding.

[mister-white]

Well, for Q is hard to say who would be good for the role. If they want comic relief, then I can easily see Ricky Gervais in the role. But, if they want a more classically trained actor for the role, I can see Gary Oldman (who has said he would like to take the role), or my personal favourite Kenneth Branagh. But I can see either one of those two men taking on the role of 'M' once they finally get Judi Dench out of the role.

As for Moneypenny, I think we already saw her in the 'Craig-era'. She was the receptionist at the Ocean Club in Casino Royale. Here my theory: When Bond left M's apartment, we saw her glance over at her computer, having relized that Bond was using it, so she probably checked to see what he was doing, and sent Miss Moneypenny down to the Bahamas to keep an eye on him- that's why she didn't seem surprised when Vilas told her that Bond was down there. So, I don't remember the actress' name, but she should be Moneypenny.

[double o ego]

The ocean club secretary is too sexy to be moneypenny. Craig's Bond would tap that without invitation in a heart beat.

Edited by double o ego, 30 October 2008 - 05:38 PM.

[Quantumofsolace007]

Q the actor who put the tracking device in bond in Casino Royale

Moneypenny the brunette who was in the "Bond's been Poisoned Scene"

They would be Peter Notley and Rebecca Gethings. However, the thing with Notley is that he is a special effects guy, not an actor. Casino Royale is the only acting thing he's done.

Personally, I don't have a problem with John Cleese returning whether he plays Q much as he did in Die Another Day (but not TWINE) or even a more serious version. After all, if Judi Dench can come back to the Bond Begins timeline, why not Cleese?

However, if new actors are cast, my votes would go to Hugh Lawrie and Emilia Fox.

when i saw Casino Royale in the theaters i rember thinking "what the big hooplah Q is right there that is Q"


the way the scene was handled in Casino Royale was exactly how Q should be handled at least for craig's tenure He come in shows bond the gadget walks out No humour no nonesense. The only thing Carried over from the llewyllan days "Right Now pay attention 007" and that is it. I love how M even said "Oh good your here" Basically screaming to the audience THIS IS Q. like I said the 2 character began to get almost more importance then bond the way they were "handled" in Casino Royale in My opnion is perfect they are back round mostly and not the source of any ridculous over the top nonsense.


I mean I love llewellyan's Q Cleese's was ok but we're in a new world of bond and it's time those 2 characters got updated.

[Arbogast777]

I've always thought that Moneypenny could easily be fit into the Craiq "Bond Begins" mode. What they should do is have Bond have a fling with a woman during the film, have something mysterious surrounding her that Bond notices, then at the end of the film have M say "Bond, I would like you to meet my new assistant" (the fling from earlier walks in), "Miss. Moneypenny." And end the movie on that note...

[quantumofsolace]

Martine Mccuthcheon would be a brilliant 'penny.
Not sure about Q. I think he would be very difficult to cast and write for.
I'd like them to be brought in one at a time.

[dee-bee-five]

Martine Mccuthcheon would be a brilliant 'penny.

Dear God, preserve us from that arboreal attention-seeker being allowed anywhere near the franchise. Unless we want Moneypenny portrayed as some low-rent, one-note tea-lady, that is.

And, of course, if by some act of Satan she were ever cast, they'd never be able to film it anyway because she'd be off sick all the time. She was supposedly ill so often while playing Eliza in My Fair Lady in the West End (y'know, the kind of illness that prevents you working in a theatre but doesn't stop you going to nightclubs), that friends of mine still dine out on the fact they actually managed to catch one of her performances.

[bonds_walther]

I think that Bond 23 should see Q and Moneypenny back. I was a little miffed that neither return in QoS, but I understand why.

I would hope that both roles would be filled by people who could hold their own on screen with Craig. They'd need to played 'stright' as well - none of this John Cleese cr*p.

[tdalton]

Hopefully this turns out not to be true and Moneypenny and Q do not make an appearance in any future film. CASINO ROYALE was just fine without the characters, and I can't say that I have any desire to see the characters return to the franchise.

[Whalltt]

They are Fleming's caracters so they are more than welcome, if you ask me.

The thing that is wrong with them is the way they were portrayed in past films. As happened with many aspects of the franchise.

Way too much sillyness.

If they stick to the way Fleming wrote them, caracter wise, I'll be very happy.

[Publius]

Perosnal stuff has to end.

But that has no bearing on the reappearance of these characters. Bond could go back to nothing but missions and/or campy adventures, with or without these characters.

He wasn't sure he could name anyone as Q, but did suggest that Q should be more in the vein of Algernon from NSNA. A bit less straight laced and overall bothered that his department isn't as respected as other divisions of MI6, yet somewhat proud of his achievments and likes Bond.

Yes, this is what I'd like to see as well. However, I don't want a return to God-gadgets that were obviously retrofitted to get Bond out of whatever narrative corner he was written into.

And I don't want to see Moneypenny return. Bond has his boss, his American contact, and possibly his armourer/tech expert. He doesn't need a secretary to flirt with and slap on the (or have talk down to him).

He's also inevitably going to come across at least one attractive female in each film to provide some sexual tension. I'd rather they didn't let a recurring throwaway character siphon off some of that energy.

[Cabainus]

I don’t see anything wrong with bringing back Q or Moneypenny, but both these characters should be introduced as minor roles to begin with and played straight down the middle.

As for who should be cast in these roles, two unknown or little known actors/actresses would be ideal, as their introduction should be kept low-key and relevant to the plot.

[Whalltt]

I don’t see anything wrong with bringing back Q or Moneypenny, but both these characters should be introduced as minor roles to begin with and played straight down the middle.

As for who should be cast in these roles, two unknown or little known actors/actresses would be ideal, as their introduction should be kept low-key and relevant to the plot.

My thoughts also.

[DR76]

Well yes they were good. If we had CR or QOS its because we had the other 20. Also as Craig stated he loves to have the "classic touch" back. There is no way that they can go with CR forever. The personal stuff is over. Back to mission and back to all the classics.

Why do people insist upon clinging to the past? Why does a Bond movie need Moneypenny or Q to be a classic? I don't see any answer to that question.

[YOLT]

Well yes they were good. If we had CR or QOS its because we had the other 20. Also as Craig stated he loves to have the "classic touch" back. There is no way that they can go with CR forever. The personal stuff is over. Back to mission and back to all the classics.

Why do people insist upon clinging to the past? Why does a Bond movie need Moneypenny or Q to be a classic? I don't see any answer to that question.

They are the differences between Bond and Bourne. Bond is a traditional name. You cant change its parts that easily. I am not against the films with Craig and their aims. But as Craig stated they ARE going to comeback. Like the gunbarell the line etc.

[Colossus]

Q the actor who put the tracking device in bond in Casino Royale

Seriously isn't that the guy already just unnamed?

[Peckinpah1976]

I've no problem with a completely new MI6 team being introduced in the future but aren't both of these characters completely redundant now, anyway? I think it would be a huge mistake to go back to having "gadgets" in the films and Moneypenny can only work one of two ways; either Bond sexually harasses her (not gonna happen any more) or she's presented as a spiky "modern" women who has nothing but contempt for 007 (this approach was already boring when introduced in GE).

Leave well alone, IMO.

[Captain Tightpants]

Yeah, I don't see much of a future for either of them. True, Moneypenny could have worked in the place of Villiers, but I got the impression neither he nor Bond liked each other all that much, and that he was a bit of a mummy's boy in tat he worked fo a maternal figure such as M. In that case, dropping Moneypenny in instead wouldn't have worked much.

As for Q, aside from beng a role completely owned by Desmond, I think he could be re-introduced, but with the problem being that he'd had to be fundamentally changed to th point where he'd be Q in name only. I could see him as more of a technical support character; someone brought in when they need help wit the spy satellite or something like that. I wouldn't mind those two guys from the medical station in CASINO ROYALE coming back, the guys who helped Bond through his poisoning.