Who do you see as Bond Number 7?
#1
Posted 11 May 2008 - 01:51 PM
My initial thoughts were either Peter Krause or Clive Owen, but both of them are at least 2 years older than Daniel Craig, so therein lies a problem. James Purefoy has been rumoured and I think he could make a good Bond. Fortunately, we can judge the likelihood of him giving a good performance as Bond when he stars as Simon Templar in the Saint movie.
#2
Posted 11 May 2008 - 01:54 PM
#3
Posted 11 May 2008 - 02:47 PM
Second choice: David Oyelowo
#4
Posted 11 May 2008 - 02:53 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Second choice: David Oyelowo
Very interesting choices Loomis, particularly David Oyelowo.
#5
Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:08 PM
#6
Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:11 PM
I have a feeling we'll see Henry Cavill step up once Craig is finished. He was, apparently, second choice behind Craig for CR, but his age got in the way (I think he was only 23 at the time). If Craig sticks around for a few more films, then Cavill will be an acceptable age once Craig steps down. He seems to have the look, though I haven't seen him in much to comment on his style, voice, etc.
Again, interesting choice. I think he'll definitely be in with a good chance of landing the part, and you're right about the age thing - if Craig does another 6 or 7 years, he'll be mid-30s, just the right age! It could come down to Purefoy vs Cavill!
#7
Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:46 PM
I have a feeling we'll see Henry Cavill step up once Craig is finished. He was, apparently, second choice behind Craig for CR, but his age got in the way (I think he was only 23 at the time). If Craig sticks around for a few more films, then Cavill will be an acceptable age once Craig steps down. He seems to have the look, though I haven't seen him in much to comment on his style, voice, etc.
Again, interesting choice. I think he'll definitely be in with a good chance of landing the part, and you're right about the age thing - if Craig does another 6 or 7 years, he'll be mid-30s, just the right age! It could come down to Purefoy vs Cavill!
or it could be Craig for a few more films thna Purfory as number 7 and Cavill as Number 8.
I'll bwe homnest i tned to stay away from casting 007 as before craig isuggested Johnny Depp or Adrian Paul now i look back and think "jeez how dumb" thoough Adiran might of been good..... Point of the story i love DC he's a great bond and my choices pale in comparioosn so basicaly i'n commenting that i wno't comment.
#8
Posted 11 May 2008 - 03:48 PM
I have a feeling we'll see Henry Cavill step up once Craig is finished. He was, apparently, second choice behind Craig for CR, but his age got in the way (I think he was only 23 at the time). If Craig sticks around for a few more films, then Cavill will be an acceptable age once Craig steps down. He seems to have the look, though I haven't seen him in much to comment on his style, voice, etc.
Again, interesting choice. I think he'll definitely be in with a good chance of landing the part, and you're right about the age thing - if Craig does another 6 or 7 years, he'll be mid-30s, just the right age! It could come down to Purefoy vs Cavill!
or it could be Craig for a few more films thna Purfory as number 7 and Cavill as Number 8.
I'll bwe homnest i tned to stay away from casting 007 as before craig isuggested Johnny Depp or Adrian Paul now i look back and think "jeez how dumb" thoough Adiran might of been good..... Point of the story i love DC he's a great bond and my choices pale in comparioosn so basicaly i'n commenting that i wno't comment.
I'll hold my hands up as well and say that I was an initial Craig doubter (pre-Casino Royale), but now I think he's fantastic! I originally campaigned for Clive Owen, but like I say, Craig was the perfect choice!
#9
Posted 11 May 2008 - 04:32 PM
I'd never heard of craig but supported him when everyone said "he'd be like dalton" who was at that time my favourite bond now Craig is my favourite bond with dalton coming in a close second though lets eee what Quantum brings us i'll get a better understanding of Craig's bond in QOS.I have a feeling we'll see Henry Cavill step up once Craig is finished. He was, apparently, second choice behind Craig for CR, but his age got in the way (I think he was only 23 at the time). If Craig sticks around for a few more films, then Cavill will be an acceptable age once Craig steps down. He seems to have the look, though I haven't seen him in much to comment on his style, voice, etc.
Again, interesting choice. I think he'll definitely be in with a good chance of landing the part, and you're right about the age thing - if Craig does another 6 or 7 years, he'll be mid-30s, just the right age! It could come down to Purefoy vs Cavill!
or it could be Craig for a few more films thna Purfory as number 7 and Cavill as Number 8.
I'll bwe homnest i tned to stay away from casting 007 as before craig isuggested Johnny Depp or Adrian Paul now i look back and think "jeez how dumb" thoough Adiran might of been good..... Point of the story i love DC he's a great bond and my choices pale in comparioosn so basicaly i'n commenting that i wno't comment.
I'll hold my hands up as well and say that I was an initial Craig doubter (pre-Casino Royale), but now I think he's fantastic! I originally campaigned for Clive Owen, but like I say, Craig was the perfect choice!
Edited by Quantumofsolace007, 11 May 2008 - 04:36 PM.
#10
Posted 11 May 2008 - 04:56 PM
I'd never heard of craig but supported him when everyone said "he'd be like dalton" who was at that time my favourite bond now Craig is my favourite bond with dalton coming in a close second though lets eee what Quantum brings us i'll get a better understanding of Craig's bond in QOS.I have a feeling we'll see Henry Cavill step up once Craig is finished. He was, apparently, second choice behind Craig for CR, but his age got in the way (I think he was only 23 at the time). If Craig sticks around for a few more films, then Cavill will be an acceptable age once Craig steps down. He seems to have the look, though I haven't seen him in much to comment on his style, voice, etc.
Again, interesting choice. I think he'll definitely be in with a good chance of landing the part, and you're right about the age thing - if Craig does another 6 or 7 years, he'll be mid-30s, just the right age! It could come down to Purefoy vs Cavill!
or it could be Craig for a few more films thna Purfory as number 7 and Cavill as Number 8.
I'll bwe homnest i tned to stay away from casting 007 as before craig isuggested Johnny Depp or Adrian Paul now i look back and think "jeez how dumb" thoough Adiran might of been good..... Point of the story i love DC he's a great bond and my choices pale in comparioosn so basicaly i'n commenting that i wno't comment.
I'll hold my hands up as well and say that I was an initial Craig doubter (pre-Casino Royale), but now I think he's fantastic! I originally campaigned for Clive Owen, but like I say, Craig was the perfect choice!
I based my initial criticisms on his other films. The only thing that I'd seen him in that was remotely related to Bond was Layer Cake, and I just didn't see him as Bond. Thank God for some brilliant writing from Paul Haggis, who allowed Bond to fit Craig's attitude towards going back to Fleming. I like his approach and I hope that future Bond actors follow his example. He's set the standard for the future. To be honest, I'd love to hear who he thinks would be the right man to replace him. We'll probably find out after Bond 23, because he'll surely be considering how long he's got after that, and subsequently, who would be right to replace him.
Edited by Conlazmoodalbrocra, 11 May 2008 - 04:57 PM.
#11
Posted 11 May 2008 - 05:27 PM
As for David Oyelowo, bold choice but he has two strikes against him at this point. The first would be his name--all Bond actors must have pronounceable, easily spelled names. The second issue, race, has been heatedly argued elsewhere. All I'm saying here is that I don't see it happening.
#12
Posted 11 May 2008 - 06:29 PM
#13
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:01 PM
Edited by Conlazmoodalbrocra, 11 May 2008 - 07:02 PM.
#14
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:36 PM
The only actor mentioned above who has a chance, imo, could be Purefoy.
As for David Oyelowo, bold choice but he has two strikes against him at this point. The first would be his name--all Bond actors must have pronounceable, easily spelled names. The second issue, race, has been heatedly argued elsewhere. All I'm saying here is that I don't see it happening.
All I will say is that I'd never heard of him until I happened to see him in something on the BBC a few months ago (and, no, it wasn't SPOOKS, which I've never seen), and - funny how it always goes with potential Bonds, when you don't look, you find - was from out of the blue struck by the revelation that he'd make an absolutely fantastic James Bond, the skin colour issue be damned.
And doing a bit of Googling, it would appear that I'm by no means alone in viewing him as Bond material. This isn't just one of my eccentric ideas, a la that THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN is actually the best film of the franchise, or that DIE ANOTHER DAY is really amazing, or that Tamahori's codename theory is genius. Nope, I actually have some backup on this one. There are others who think as I do.
As for Cavill, I honestly think we can forget about him. Sure, he was apparently second in line after Craig for CASINO ROYALE - indeed, according to some he was even Martin Campbell's top choice. So, a no-brainer for Bond 7, then? Well, no, not really, and here's why:
- The main thing against Cavill is his age. He's 25, but often looks even younger. By contrast, Craig, as we all know, is a man who's just turned 40 but who on a bad day looks as though he's in his early 50s. Facially, anyway - no one would dispute his terrific physique. Cavill looks young enough to be his son. So even if Cavill were to step into Craig's shoes at 35, ten years from now (although I rather doubt that Craig will still be Bond in 2018), he'd still look as though he were in his 20s and, more importantly, would look so much younger than Craig that it would seem as though they were making another BOND BEGINS franchise reboot, even if they weren't.
- Also, Cavill has no particular acclaim or track record or "fanbase", as far as I know. He seems to be famous - to the small degree that he is - chiefly for not getting top roles: not only did he lose Bond to Craig, but he also, so they say, lost Batman to Christian Bale. Not that a Bond actor has to be a huge star, of course, and Cavill certainly has a few years ahead of him to establish himself as a well-known actor, but this will surely make him a hard sell as 007. The media would portray him as a poor man's Craig, the guy who wasn't quite good enough last time, the Plan B Bond, et cetera.
Still, I appreciate that the question asked in this thread is "Who would you like to see as Bond 7?", not "Who do you think is a likely choice?". I'm sure that Cavill is rather more likely than either of the choices I myself have given in this thread, but I'd still say that he's not a likely candidate. As Craig's immediate replacement, that is - maybe Bond 8.
As for David Oyelowo, bold choice but he has two strikes against him at this point. The first would be his name--all Bond actors must have pronounceable, easily spelled names.
What, like George LAH-zenby? Or is it LAY-zenby? And that new guy Americans call Daniel Cregg?
#15
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:49 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Ahh...uh....isn't he like 5 feet tall? Hold on, IMDB says he's 5"7, so that means 5"5. And he looks about a threatening as a mince pie
My pick would be Alex O'Loughlin, former Casino Royale auditioner (auditionee?) who showed some gritty action chops in a stint on The Shield, and currently plays a romantic lead on Moonlight
#16
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:53 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Ahh...uh....isn't he like 5 feet tall? Hold on, IMDB says he's 5"7, so that means 5"5. And he looks about a threatening as a mince pie
My pick would be Alex O'Loughlin, former Casino Royale auditioner (auditionee?) who showed some gritty action chops in a stint on The Shield, and currently plays a romantic lead on Moonlight
Agree with you about McAvoy, not James Bond material in my opinion. But Alex O'Loughlin doesn't do it for me either. I can see why he lost out in the Casino Royale auditions. I really can't put him in a Bond film in my head, but then again, I said the same thing about Craig, then I had to eat my words!!!
#17
Posted 11 May 2008 - 07:58 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Ahh...uh....isn't he like 5 feet tall? Hold on, IMDB says he's 5"7, so that means 5"5. And he looks about a threatening as a mince pie
Well, yeah, but look at Craig: "You can't have a blond Bond!", "He's ugly!", "He's a man in his thirties with the face of a sixty-year-old!", "He's Vladimir Putin's brother!", etc., etc.
In any case, McAvoy is still the actor I'd most like to see as Bond. So there!
#18
Posted 11 May 2008 - 08:02 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Ahh...uh....isn't he like 5 feet tall? Hold on, IMDB says he's 5"7, so that means 5"5. And he looks about a threatening as a mince pie
Well, yeah, but look at Craig: "You can't have a blond Bond!", "He's ugly!", "He's a man in his thirties with the face of a sixty-year-old!", "He's Vladimir Putin's brother!", etc., etc.
Another great point. This whole thread makes me feel a bit of a for being a pre-Casino Royale Craig criticiser!!!
#19
Posted 12 May 2008 - 04:16 AM
It's surprising to me how often Cavill's name comes up in discussions about Bond numero seven.
#20
Posted 12 May 2008 - 10:12 AM
#21
Posted 12 May 2008 - 01:41 PM
#22
Posted 12 May 2008 - 01:44 PM
#23
Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:46 PM
#24
Posted 12 May 2008 - 02:59 PM
First choice: James McAvoy
Ahh...uh....isn't he like 5 feet tall? Hold on, IMDB says he's 5"7, so that means 5"5. And he looks about a threatening as a mince pie
My pick would be Alex O'Loughlin, former Casino Royale auditioner (auditionee?) who showed some gritty action chops in a stint on The Shield, and currently plays a romantic lead on Moonlight
I thoroughly agree. Not at ALL threatening looking - not even a bit. Too girly looking IMO with a thin jaw.
#25
Posted 12 May 2008 - 07:56 PM
This is speculation, but wasn't Cubby Broccoli around when Brosnan was picked? I can see that he'd have input into who got picked. Maybe the "Bond-type" as we used to know and love was mainly Cubby's legacy. When he passed and Babs and Mikey G. had the reins, you get Daniel Craig.
Don't get me wrong: Craig is now my favorite Bond. But when you say "James Bond," Craig's face and hair isn't the first that pops into my head.
Let's just say Babs has got a different take on the role than you or I. The next Bond will likely come out of far left field.
#26
Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:14 PM
#27
Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:15 PM
#28
Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:31 PM
How did you get to see Cavill's and Friend's screentests? (No need to go into chapter and verse if you want to protect your source(s), but roughly how did you get to see them? Just out of interest, like. )
Did you see anyone else's? If so, your thoughts, please.
I only saw Cavill and Friend's. And they were screen readings not screen tests, meaning they were done simply reading from the script with someone off screen.
And how? Delicate one there. I'll just say it was much the same source that gave me the scoop that Craig was frontrunner to become Bond.
I was surprised to find out later that Cavill went on to screentests and Friend didn't. Friend's biggest problem I thought was his long hair at the time made his looks unBondian. But his reading was cool although now obviously more uppercrust than they were going for.
#29
Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:39 PM
Had a look at the YouTube clip spynovelfan alerted us to. Cavill's definitely got the walk, and I guess he's got the looks, too (albeit in a rather "generic Bond" male model way, if you get what I mean - perfect for playing a James Bond type in an advert, but could he really cut the mustard as Bond on the big screen? I guess Martin Campbell thought he could, which can't be anything other than a big point in his favour). I'll take spy's word for it that he can give a good performance, because there's really nothing about him that compels me to search out his work. I see no Craigian "edge" to Cavill (or any of the other CR candidates), but in fairness I might do if I actually bothered to watch him act.
I agree with HH007 and sidspappy that the next Bond - if there is a next Bond - will come out of left field.
#30
Posted 12 May 2008 - 08:52 PM