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Voice Dubbing in the Bond movies...


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#1 DaveBond21

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 05:58 AM

This is an interesting topic, and here is the rundown of the voice dubbing in the Bond films, from an FAQ site:-


Over dubbing


This is not a complete list below, just a note about some notables. It is
singularly odd that one of the most famous Bond movie lines of them all,
Goldfinger's retort to wanting Bond to talk by muttering, "No, Mr. Bond, I
expect you to die! " was not the actor's own voice.

Actor Role Film Looped by
----- ---- ---- ---------
Ursula Andress - Honey Rider - Dr. No - Monica vander Syl

Daniela Bianchi - Tatiana Romanova - From Russia With Love - Barbara Jeffoed

Gert Frobe - Goldfinger - Goldfinger - Michael Collins

Claudine Auger - Domino Derval - Thunderball - Monica vander Syl

Adolpho Celi - Emilio Largo - Thunderball - Robert Rietti

Tetsuro Tamba - Tiger Tanaka - You Only Live Twice - Robert Rietti

Gabriele Ferzetti - Marc-Ange Draco - OHMSS - David deKeyser

John Hollis - Blofeld - For Your Eyes Only - Robert Rietti




Eric Pohlman looped Ernst Stavro Blofeld's voice in "From Russia With Love"
though the cat petting hands belonged to Anthony Dawson. While one source
claims that Pohlman's widow confirmed he was also Blofeld's voice in
"Thunderball", the film's director, Terence Young, (from "Bondage") said it
was Joseph Wiseman providing the voice. (Submitted by David A. McIntee
<mailto:[email protected]>) Wiseman played "Dr. No" and that
version of Blofeld sounds nearly like him. Yet the source supporting Pohlman
provides that his name is on the call sheets and that having him travel from
nearby London was easier than Wiseman being flown in from the States. He
also disputes Young as a reliable source. (Submitted by Mac) Perhaps the
person who is wrong will suffer the same fate as No. 12, Pierre Borraud.

John Hollis was the wheelchair bound Blofeld in "For Your Eyes Only".
Hollis played Lobot, aide to Lando Calrissian, in "The Empire Strikes Back".

And lastly, George Baker, the actor playing the real Sir Hilary Bray in "On
Her Majesty's Secret Service", is dubbed whenever Bond imitates him. This
example is quite disconcerting and unnecessary and detracts from the viewing
experience.

Edited by DaveBond21, 16 August 2006 - 06:01 AM.


#2 Mark_Hazard

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 10:26 PM

I'm surprised that you only list Nikki van der Zyl (Monica vander Syl) twice. I understood that she dubbed (I may be exaggerating slightly) - virtually ever female in the early films, although I know of at least one actress that denies her claims.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:00 PM

Ursula Andress - Honey Rider - Dr. No - Monica vander Syl

In addition, her singing voice was dubbed by Monty Norman's then wife, Diana Coupland.

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Posted 16 August 2006 - 11:21 PM

Reviewing that list, I'm glad voice dubbing in Bond is a thing of the past.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:30 AM

Allow me to respond by saying...

"CA... CA... CAIRO!"

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:44 AM

I always thought Tiger Tanaka sounded like Blofeld from FYEO. Just never looked into it.

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:46 AM

I believe they are both Robert Rietti, who incidentally is the Italian diplomat in NSNA the guy who says "I hope the American Government realises it's awesome responsibility..."

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:08 PM

"CA... CA... CAIRO!"


LOL - truly a great Bond moment!!


Yes, I always thought that Tiger Tanaka sounded like Largo.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:46 AM

I also think that the woman on the boat at the beginning of TLD might have been dubbed, I only base this on her voice in one of the trailers does not match her voice in the film. (of course the trailer voice might be dubbed and the film her real voice so it's just my opinion :) )

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:49 AM

I also think that the woman on the boat at the beginning of TLD might have been dubbed, I only base this on her voice in one of the trailers does not match her voice in the film. (of course the trailer voice might be dubbed and the film her real voice so it's just my opinion :) )


Yes, obviously one of those voices is not her real one! I suspect she's dubbed in the final film, as she has a Euro accent of some kind in it, probably to make her more 'exotic' sounding.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 01:51 AM

I'm surprised that you only list Nikki van der Zyl (Monica vander Syl) twice. I understood that she dubbed (I may be exaggerating slightly) - virtually ever female in the early films, although I know of at least one actress that denies her claims.


She's got quite a bit of it on her site, AndressNotRyder, no sorry, that's wrong:

http://www.nikkivanderzyl.co.uk/bond/

Menu on the left - there's more than just the one article.

Enjoy. :)

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 12:01 AM

Hi spynovelfan, just looked at her site, oh dear.

One paragraph: OK, you might say, Nikki didn't get any credits but she must have been richly rewarded for her work, after all the Bond films made millions (and go on making millions). Think again; she was paid a pittance for what was normally just one or two days' work. Because she was so efficient, she usually achieved a perfect match with one or two 'takes' and therefore only received a session fee. (A 'session' is half a day.) makes her sound bitter.

She was paid the going rate for her services, it sounds to me as if she thinks she ought to be paid royalties for every time the films are shown, much like the artist (can't remember his name) responsible for the Seargent Pepper album cover - another who was paid at the time for his services.

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 12:31 AM

She was paid the going rate for her services, it sounds to me as if she thinks she ought to be paid royalties for every time the films are shown, much like the artist (can't remember his name) responsible for the Seargent Pepper album cover - another who was paid at the time for his services.


Maurice Binder regretted to the day he died his decision to get paid a wage for the gunbarrel sequence instead of getting a part of it.

I don't feel sorry for her. After all, nobody twisted her arm to do the looping.

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 05:50 PM

was Tetsuro Tamba dubbed? if i remember correctly on the YOLT documentary on the DVD, Lewis Gilbert said that he could speak perfect english

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 05:46 AM

Hmmm...not sure.


Sometimes voices in the 1960's Bonds sound dubbed because they are out of synch with the lips!!

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Posted 30 August 2006 - 06:21 AM

perhaps he could speak English but just not clear enough?
Adolpho Celi could speak English yet some of his lines are dubbed and in the production footage on the DVD'S his real voice seems noticably deeper.
Maybe they thought a dubbed voice could be more easily understood?

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 04:55 AM

Maybe they thought a dubbed voice could be more easily understood?



Yep, and dubbing was popular then, so no-one would have complained back then.

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Posted 30 October 2006 - 08:34 AM

LMBO!!

Yeah, that voice of Tiger's was Blofeld's in FYEO! They have the same old-man-smoker-wheeze laugh!! That's gonna be even funnier now...

Edited by 00Twelve, 30 October 2006 - 08:35 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2006 - 05:25 AM

Yeah, that voice of Tiger's was Blofeld's in FYEO!



LOL..."Mr Bond we can do a deal....!!!"

:) ... :P

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 12:33 AM

No dubbing in Casino Royale?

:cooltongue:

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Posted 03 January 2007 - 02:03 PM

Adolpho Celi - Emilio Largo - Thunderball - Robert Rietti

John Hollis - Blofeld - For Your Eyes Only - Robert Rietti


Very interesting. Celi (with Rietti's voiceover) was great as Largo, but Blofeld in FYEO is a big disappointment with an annoying voice.

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 12:02 AM

I never knew there were so many voice overs. Could they never find a leading lady in the early films that could actually talk for herself?


They seemed to like various European beauties for their Bond girls in the 60s. Maybe they had an ulterior motive!

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:37 PM

It sounds to me, that Lois Maxwell's voice is dubbed by another actress
in YOLT.
Does anyone else hear that?

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Posted 04 January 2007 - 05:52 PM

Daniel Craig sounds dubbed in the promo reel :cooltongue:

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Posted 05 January 2007 - 01:58 AM

It sounds to me, that Lois Maxwell's voice is dubbed by another actress
in YOLT.
Does anyone else hear that?

It sounds like her, it's the synching seems off, like she had to loop her lines or something in post production. Also, Connery says "Sayanora" as if that's just dubbed in or something as we don't seem him actually saying it.

YOLT seems strewn with a lot of dubbing, moreso than any other Bond film.

While we're on the topic, did anybody ever watch the old Japanese cartoon Speed Racer, the '60s version? Doe anybody else think Mie Hama (Kissy) sounds just like Speed's kid brother Spridel?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 10:38 PM

YOLT may have the most dubbing, but it does seem that many of the female voices in the 60's films were dubbed.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 01:26 AM

Hi,

I only just recently found out (courtesy of the Ultimate Edition DVD) that Gert Frobe was dubbed in Goldfinger. I have to say that this came as a real disappointment as he has always been my favourite Bond villian (with the coolest line in the whole series - you know the one). I wonder, does anybody know if Mr Frobe was dubbed by the same actor in any other of his english language movies ('Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines, Those Daring Young Men in their Jaunty Jallopies, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - almost certainly in this one as Brocoli and Saltzman produced it!).

I take my hat off to you

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 01:15 AM

I only just recently found out (courtesy of the Ultimate Edition DVD) that Gert Frobe was dubbed in Goldfinger. I have to say that this came as a real disappointment as he has always been my favourite Bond villian


It seems that voice dubbing was just the "done thing" at the time.

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 01:25 AM

I only just recently found out (courtesy of the Ultimate Edition DVD) that Gert Frobe was dubbed in Goldfinger. I have to say that this came as a real disappointment as he has always been my favourite Bond villian


It seems that voice dubbing was just the "done thing" at the time.

The "done thing" being to get the right actor, and if the voice isn't quite right just dub it. I can't possible imagine Theodore Bikel or Titos Vandis being Goldfinger. Not flamboyant enough like Frobe.

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 11:12 PM

I only just recently found out (courtesy of the Ultimate Edition DVD) that Gert Frobe was dubbed in Goldfinger. I have to say that this came as a real disappointment as he has always been my favourite Bond villian


It seems that voice dubbing was just the "done thing" at the time.

The "done thing" being to get the right actor, and if the voice isn't quite right just dub it. I can't possible imagine Theodore Bikel or Titos Vandis being Goldfinger. Not flamboyant enough like Frobe.


Yes I suppose you are quite right Blofeld's Cat. I shouldn't really complain after seeing the screen tests for both Theodore Bikel and Titos Vandis. Brocoli and Saltzman were spot on in casting Gert Frobe. Who cares if he is dubbed, Goldfinger still comes across as a great villain (the best IMHO) and that's all that counts. However, the same can't be said for dubbing George Baker's voice over Lazenby's in OHMSS. It sounds very unrealistic and I think definitely undermines George Lazenby's performance.

Regards

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