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[Tim007]

No jacket required

James Bond will not be wearing black tie in Casino Royale. Trash can reveal that the new-look spy, as played by Daniel Craig, will dispense with the classic image of Ian Fleming's creation as the holders of the film franchise try to extend their product's popularity. Meeting with Craig last week to discuss his role as an Israeli assassin in Steven Spielberg's Munich, I asked the star - who was leaving for the Bond set in Prague the next day - if he'd been fitted for his tux yet. 'Actually, he doesn't wear one in this version,' he replied. 'I'm not sure if I should tell you that, so there's a scoop for you.' Bond producers Eon are keen to bring the spy into the 21st century and opted to ditch Pierce Brosnan in favour of Craig, suggesting they were after a leaner, meaner secret agent who's less reliant on gadgets. Precious little is known about the film as yet, however, so how Bond gets into the titular casino without his trademark black tie is anybody's guess - although I'm sure he'll find a way.

Source: The Observer




How is that possible? All the casino scenes without a suit?

[SteveKingCool]

OK so no baccarat, no Bentley, no tuxedo.

The new Bond. Uglish, blond, no smoker, poker, no tuxedo, SAS




The classic Bond. Suave, dark and handsome, baccarat, tuxedo, smoker, Navy Commander

Images removed - Eon copyright. Read the forum rules.

Edited by Jim, 22 January 2006 - 04:54 PM.

[1q2w3e4r]

It's a wind up obviously.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the teaser shot now doesn't it?

[Agent 76]

fake.

[Niwram]

fake.

Let's hope so.

[Roebuck]

All he's saying is that he doesn't wear a tuxedo; not that he won't be wearing a suit. Times have changed, and if Bond walked into a modern casino wearing a dinner jacket he'd probably be mistaken for one of the staff!

[David Schofield]

It's a wind up obviously.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the teaser shot now doesn't it?

I'd agree 100%. So you put Craig in a tux in the teaser - playing of traditional Bond conformity and image - and then dispense with it in the movie?

Good one, Dan. Sadly, some will believe you.

[Mr_Wint]

PIERCE BROSNAN COME BACK!!!!!

WE FORGIVE YOU!

[Blue07]

OK so no baccarat, no Bentley, no tuxedo.

The new Bond. Uglish, blond, no smoker, poker, no tuxedo, SAS




The classic Bond. Suave, dark and handsome, baccarat, tuxedo, smoker, Navy Commander

Images removed - Eon copyright. Read the forum rules.

Excellent!

[Roebuck]

It's a wind up obviously.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the teaser shot now doesn't it?

I'd agree 100%. So you put Craig in a tux in the teaser - playing of traditional Bond conformity and image - and then dispense with it in the movie?

Good one, Dan. Sadly, some will believe you.

The teaser is just advertising. Eon has sold the public the image of 007 wearing a DJ and holding a Walther; it's an iconic image and releasing a photo of Craig in the tux was obviously intended to cement him in people's minds as the new James Bond.
There's no sense carrying that image on into the movie if it's not appropriate for the tone they're trying to set. Moore didn't wear a tux in his first outing, but it doesn't make LALD any less a Bond film.

[Mr_Wint]

It's a wind up obviously.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the teaser shot now doesn't it?

I'd agree 100%. So you put Craig in a tux in the teaser - playing of traditional Bond conformity and image - and then dispense with it in the movie?

Good one, Dan. Sadly, some will believe you.

The teaser is just advertising. Eon has sold the public the image of 007 wearing a DJ and holding a Walther; it's an iconic image and releasing a photo of Craig in the tux was obviously intended to cement him in people's minds as the new James Bond.
There's no sense carrying that image on into the movie if it's not appropriate for the tone they're trying to set. Moore didn't wear a tux in his first outing, but it doesn't make LALD any less a Bond film.

Your argument doesn't make much sense for me. It doesn't make LALD (or YOLT) any less because Bond never visit a casino or any places that might require a tuxedo. Isn't that a little bit different... compared to film namned "Casino Royale"...?

[SteveKingCool]

The released photo of Craig is a hype to make people accept him because the majority think he is too uglish to be a Bond. It's a very Photoshopped image.....even more than the photo I did here. They repainted his whole face to fix his age and eyebags and red skin and then stretched it to make his face longer because really he has a box face.

[SecretAgentFan]

It's a wind up obviously.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the teaser shot now doesn't it?

I'd agree 100%. So you put Craig in a tux in the teaser - playing of traditional Bond conformity and image - and then dispense with it in the movie?

Good one, Dan. Sadly, some will believe you.

The teaser is just advertising. Eon has sold the public the image of 007 wearing a DJ and holding a Walther; it's an iconic image and releasing a photo of Craig in the tux was obviously intended to cement him in people's minds as the new James Bond.
There's no sense carrying that image on into the movie if it's not appropriate for the tone they're trying to set. Moore didn't wear a tux in his first outing, but it doesn't make LALD any less a Bond film.

Absolutely, Roebuck!

And SteveKingCool (now that

[stromberg]

The released photo of Craig is a hype to make people accept him because the majority think he is too uglish to be a Bond.
It's a very Photoshopped image.....even more than the photo I did here. They repainted his whole face to fix his age and eyebags and red skin and then stretched it to make his face longer because really he has a box face.

Judging from your Photoshop skills I've seen so far, I doubt that you're in a position to judge how much of the Craig promo shot is actually photoshopped.

I have this pic in highest available resolution (some 6000 pix wide), and I've yet to detect traces of heavy photoshopping (and I earn my living with that kind of stuff).

Ever heard of make-up?


Back OT: that fact that he won't wear a tux does not necessarily mean that he's not going to wear suit and tie. We shall see.

[deth]

for god's sake...... how the hell is he gonna look at the casino table if he isn't wearing a good suit.... hopefully by "tux" they didn't also mean "suit".... cuz then...


as for LALD... there was never a situation in that film requiring a tux or suit... when Moore DID gamble.... or go to something stylish... he WORE A SUIT.... Bond wears a suit. nuff' said.

[Lady Rose]

I am sure Bond will wear whatever is appropriate for the occasion ... he always does

[Roebuck]

Your argument doesn't make much sense for me. It doesn't make LALD (or YOLT) any less because Bond never visit a casino or any places that might require a tuxedo. Isn't that a little bit different... compared to film namned "Casino Royale"...?

Did you wear a tux last time you visited a Casino? It's no longer considered de rigeur, especially if playing during the day (which the script may call for). Read my earlier post or (better yet) read GQ. Bond should affect classic style and not bygone fashion trends

[1q2w3e4r]

Anyone in a tuxedo before 7 is a crocodile

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

The released photo of Craig is a hype to make people accept him because the majority think he is too uglish to be a Bond.
It's a very Photoshopped image.....even more than the photo I did here. They repainted his whole face to fix his age and eyebags and red skin and then stretched it to make his face longer because really he has a box face.

Judging from your Photoshop skills I've seen so far, I doubt that you're in a position to judge how much of the Craig promo shot is actually photoshopped.

I have this pic in highest available resolution (some 6000 pix wide), and I've yet to detect traces of heavy photoshopping (and I earn my living with that kind of stuff).

Ever heard of make-up?


Back OT: that fact that he won't wear a tux does not necessarily mean that he's not going to wear suit and tie. We shall see.

Ow! Stevekingcool just got owned! I mean really all he does is come in and whine about everything about Casino Royale almost to the extent I suspect he's a troll. He just disagrees for the sake of disagreeing.

[Mr_Wint]

Bond's clothes should be timeless and for me a tuxedo will never be dated. It isn't in character for James Bond to wear a suit or jeans at the play table. When Daniel Craig says, "he doesn't wear one in this version", it makes me worried. I will not (and cannot) judge his performance or the film until November. I want this film to be good, too! But if anyone takes this as "good news" you're ready to swallow just about everything.

[Tarl_Cabot]

Bond: no Tuxedo? Why so informal?

M:No 007...Just be casual...Wear a flower shirt or something... We want you to blend in. And that Aston Martin has been recalled. You'll be driving a 1974 El Camino...to be a Las Vegas tourist you're gonna have to look the part...but don't worry...we've added a few optimal extras...

Bond: Las Vegas? I thought the mission was in Europe?

[Agent Spriggan Ominae]

This does worry me. It's an iconic trademark or the character and he did wear a tux in the novel. There are only 2 films I belive Bond never wore a tux, YOLT and LALD(I'm not sure I'll have to watch them again but I don't recall Bond wearing a tux in those films). As long as Bond is wearing a standard suit and tie I won't be too worried. I always thought Bond looked better or I should say more professonal in a suit and tie rather than a tux.

Edited by Agent_Spriggan_Ominae, 22 January 2006 - 04:02 PM.

[Kingdom Come]

What will he wear in the gun barrel sequence?

[Tarl_Cabot]

What will he wear in the gun barrel sequence?

Speedos and cowboy boots...of course! It'll make us all laugh uncontrolably and get Craig an Golden globe nod.

[Lounge Lizard]

I will not (and cannot) judge his performance or the film until November. I want this film to be good, too! But if anyone takes this as "good news" you're ready to swallow just about everything.

You're absolutely right. It is not good news in itself, yet I don't really know what to make of this. As I said in another post, there is something innately cool about the look of a tux in the moonlight- and it would be a shame if they threw that away, that thing I would call the 'lounge lizard' quality of James Bond , which makes him unique among action heroes. He shouldn't look like any old fed.

But on the other hand, it may be too early to start worrying yet; the report may, after all, be false, invented. Or Craig himself may be having a little fun with reporters, regarding his less than cosy relationship with the press- and if that is the case, one may wonder if he is aware that he's 'needling' the hardcore Bond fans as well! As earlier posters have pointed out, Craig wears a tux in his first PR shot as Bond. Also, Martin Campbell made specific reference to the coolness of the black tie look during the news conference of October 14th. He more or less promised that it was an integral part of Bond, and should therefore be an integral part of CR. I know Campbell's 'promise' isn't worth very much, but he was after all explaining the outlook of the project.

Bond will almost certainly remain a suited hero; for the news conference, Craig was dressed up in a Brioni suit, and what would be the point of that if they were to dress him down for the movie? It doesn't make sense. Perhaps the potential absence of the tux ties in with the whole reboot thingie: no Q, no Moneypenny, no gadgets, no tux. Perhaps Bond 22 will see the return of all that, and we will get to see Bond in CR as he was shown in Licence to Kill, a more down-to-earth, white shirt and dark blue 'naval type' jacket kind of guy. Or perhaps Bond will wear Sea Island shirts, sandals and shorts, as he did in quite a few of the Fleming novels (and in Thunderball too, if I remember correctly)- are we ready for that...

[Jim]

What will he wear in the gun barrel sequence?

Speedos and cowboy boots...of course! It'll make us all laugh uncontrolably and get Craig an Golden globe nod.

Interesting if they don't do the black tie thing. It can be overdone; perhaps a danger of underdoing it?

[Leon]

Well personally I think the tux has been over done. People just don't wear dinner jackets in casinos these days. Anyone here who's been to plush european casinos will tell you, it's all just suits and smart casual with dress shoes.

Daniel Craig will look better in a nice dark suit with an open shirt collar.

The tux looks so old hat and it's been so over done it's like a pardoy of itself. This is good news

[Jim]

The tux looks so old hat and it's been so over done it's like a pardoy of itself. This is good news

I agree. The parody / cliche Bond seems (seems) to be something they are trying to avoid here.

[deth]

What will he wear in the gun barrel sequence?

Speedos and cowboy boots...of course! It'll make us all laugh uncontrolably and get Craig an Golden globe nod.

heh...... post of the day^^^

[Tarl_Cabot]

What will he wear in the gun barrel sequence?

Speedos and cowboy boots...of course! It'll make us all laugh uncontrolably and get Craig an Golden globe nod.

Interesting if they don't do the black tie thing. It can be overdone; perhaps a danger of underdoing it?

Yes. It reminds me of Warren Buffet, who drives a toyota camry..he's worth $40 Billion...ok, so you're not flashy...we get it. It's still a pretentious thing to do.

I don't really belive Craig will not wear a tux...and why would he need to be "fitted for a tux"? Wouldn't his 'suit' measurments be enough info for Sr Brioni to make him a Tux?